Re: [homenet] Roaming hosts [was: Routing protocol comparison document]

2015-02-23 Thread Ole Troan
On 21 Feb 2015, at 16:06 , Juliusz Chroboczek j...@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr wrote: The client is running a stub implementation of the routing protocol. I thought we already had decided we didn't require changes to the host? We don't *require* changes to the host. We propose optional

Re: [homenet] Roaming hosts [was: Routing protocol comparison document]

2015-02-23 Thread Ole Troan
On 21 Feb 2015, at 16:06 , Juliusz Chroboczek j...@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr wrote: The client is running a stub implementation of the routing protocol. I thought we already had decided we didn't require changes to the host? We don't *require* changes to the host. We propose optional

Re: [homenet] Roaming hosts [was: Routing protocol comparison document]

2015-02-23 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015, Ole Troan wrote: On 21 Feb 2015, at 16:06 , Juliusz Chroboczek j...@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr wrote: The client is running a stub implementation of the routing protocol. I thought we already had decided we didn't require changes to the host? We don't *require*

Re: [homenet] Roaming hosts [was: Routing protocol comparison document]

2015-02-23 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015, Ole Troan wrote: are you replying to the point I made? cause fully functioning MHMP requires host support (read MP-TCP/session layer) regardless of moving or not. If I extrapolated correctly what Juliusz wrote, that is not what he had in mind. with regards to a

Re: [homenet] Routing protocol comparison document

2015-02-23 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
So assuming some decent high-power 802.11ac in the Bradford house (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_Is_Enough) to link the per-room router to legacy 802.11b and per-person (phone) router to BTLE/PAN, it means we have about 30 routers on the wifi. I'm under opposing pressures relating to

Re: [homenet] DNCP questions

2015-02-23 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
The minimum MTU in IPv6 is 1280 bytes, and the minimum maximum packet size (before fragmentation) is 1500 bytes. I assume you refer to Long Network Status (on multicast); Yes, sorry. post MTU, or in secure mode, it should just use the Short one (which is of fixed length). Ok. So I send

Re: [homenet] Roaming hosts [was: Routing protocol comparison document]

2015-02-23 Thread Mark Townsley
When a host connects to a different link covered by a different subnet, indeed it will require a new IP address. That's pretty fundamental to what a subnet is. Hosts are getting better and better at handling multiple addresses, of both versions, coming and going. MPTCP should continue to help in

Re: [homenet] Routing protocol comparison document

2015-02-23 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
Hi Michael, The work on the document is being done on https://github.com/choppsv1 and I try to keep an up-to-date version of the generated files on http://www.pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr/~jch/private/draft-mrw-homenet-rtg-comparison-XX.html

Re: [homenet] DNCP questions

2015-02-23 Thread Markus Stenberg
On 23.2.2015, at 18.51, Juliusz Chroboczek j...@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr wrote: Another question -- is it possible to participate in Trickle-driven flooding without building the full topology graph? If not, that's a little disappointing, since Trickle is designed so that it can be

Re: [homenet] DNCP questions

2015-02-23 Thread Markus Stenberg
On 23.2.2015, at 17.24, Juliusz Chroboczek j...@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr wrote: post MTU, or in secure mode, it should just use the Short one (which is of fixed length). Ok. So I send multicast SNS. I receive NSR. I'm supposed to send LSR, right? But it doesn't fit in maximum packet

Re: [homenet] Routing protocol comparison document

2015-02-23 Thread Michael Richardson
Juliusz Chroboczek j...@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr wrote: So assuming some decent high-power 802.11ac in the Bradford house (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_Is_Enough) to link the per-room router to legacy 802.11b and per-person (phone) router to BTLE/PAN, it means we have

[homenet] Draft submission deadline

2015-02-23 Thread Ray Bellis
Just a quick reminder to the WG that the submission cut-off date for Internet Drafts is two weeks today, at 23:59 UTC on March 9th. Ray ___ homenet mailing list homenet@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet

Re: [homenet] DNCP questions

2015-02-23 Thread Markus Stenberg
On 23.2.2015, at 4.57, Juliusz Chroboczek j...@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr wrote: I have a few questions and comments about DNCP. (I haven't finished grokking HNCP yet, so that will have to wait.) Thanks, we definitely need more eyes on this (keepalive logic was actually flawed in -00, but I

Re: [homenet] A poll

2015-02-23 Thread Hans Liu
0) Have you managed to get ipv6 working at all? If so, how? What sort of problems did you encounter? Yes. I use DIR-855L at home, PPPoE. The only problem I have so far is my ISP gives only /64 via PD. 1) Have you attempted to deploy a routing protocol in your home? Which one, and why?

Re: [homenet] Routing protocol comparison document

2015-02-23 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
So, there are limitations like: struct router all_the_routers[256]; and then there are protocol collapses due to taking the entire channel for adjacencies as happened with OLPC. We're in full agreement about most of what you say. Are you happy with the current wording, or are you suggesting