Re: [homenet] I-D Action: draft-baker-6man-multi-homed-host-00.txt

2015-08-18 Thread Ole Troan
A host SHOULD select a default gateway for each prefix it uses to obtain one of its own addresses. That router SHOULD be one of the routers advertising the prefix in its RA. As a result of doing so, when a host emits a datagram using a source address in one of those prefixes and has

Re: [homenet] NTP in Homenet?

2015-08-18 Thread Steven Barth
How do Homenet routers configure NTP? Just use the pool? Either use the pool or use one from an SNTP DHCP option an edge router received from an ISP and published in HNCP. ___ homenet mailing list homenet@ietf.org

Re: [homenet] NTP in Homenet?

2015-08-18 Thread STARK, BARBARA H
How do Homenet routers configure NTP? Just use the pool? Either use the pool or use one from an SNTP DHCP option an edge router received from an ISP and published in HNCP. +1 Default (e.g., in open source implementations) should be to use the pool, in the absence of DHCP option info.

[homenet] NTP in Homenet?

2015-08-18 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
How do Homenet routers configure NTP? Just use the pool? ___ homenet mailing list homenet@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet

Re: [homenet] NTP in Homenet?

2015-08-18 Thread Henning Rogge
Hi, would be nice to have a NTP daemon on every Homenet router... gateways pull their time from the uplink, every other router pulls time from the gateway routers. Henning Rogge On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Juliusz Chroboczek j...@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr wrote: How do Homenet routers

Re: [homenet] NTP in Homenet?

2015-08-18 Thread Ca By
On Tuesday, August 18, 2015, Henning Rogge hro...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, would be nice to have a NTP daemon on every Homenet router... gateways pull their time from the uplink, every other router pulls time from the gateway routers. Henning Rogge On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Juliusz

Re: [homenet] HNCP and connected interfaces

2015-08-18 Thread james woodyatt
On Aug 18, 2015, at 10:45, Juliusz Chroboczek j...@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr wrote: Section 6.1 says: A node MUST be able to detect whether two of its local internal interfaces are connected, e.g., by detecting an identical remote interface being part of the Common Links of both local

Re: [homenet] HNCP and connected interfaces

2015-08-18 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
Section 6.1 says: A node MUST be able to detect whether two of its local internal interfaces are connected, e.g., by detecting an identical remote interface being part of the Common Links of both local interfaces. Seems like this could be improved by rephrasing it to the effect that

[homenet] Shncpd news

2015-08-18 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
Over the last week, shncpd has learnt: - to participate in DHCPv4 election; - to announce delegated prefixes (over HNCP and the routing protocol); - to configure the local host; - to deal with ad-hoc and leaf interfaces. It's not quite compliant yet, but it's getting there. The known

Re: [homenet] HNCP and connected interfaces

2015-08-18 Thread james woodyatt
On Aug 18, 2015, at 06:38, Juliusz Chroboczek j...@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr wrote: Section 6.1 says: A node MUST be able to detect whether two of its local internal interfaces are connected, e.g., by detecting an identical remote interface being part of the Common Links of both

Re: [homenet] HNCP and connected interfaces

2015-08-18 Thread Steven Barth
Am 18.08.2015 um 19:45 schrieb Juliusz Chroboczek: That's too weak -- it also needs to take care to perform prefix assignment only once (although it will probably want to perform address assignment on both interfaces, especially if they're in ad-hoc mode), to run only one instance of RA and

Re: [homenet] HNCP and connected interfaces

2015-08-18 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
James: Doesn’t section 6.3.1 already spell that out? Set of Shared Links: […] When multiple interfaces are detected as belonging to the same Common Link, prefix assignment is disabled on all of these interfaces except one. Steven: How about adding In this case the

Re: [homenet] New Open-Source PIM BIDIR (and more) implementation

2015-08-18 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Tue, 18 Aug 2015, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: (If you test this with Babel, you need to set reflect-kernel-metric true What does that do? [...] So it takes whatever metric it came up with and sets the metric as kernel priority? That's right. So if there is a shorter prefix that has a

Re: [homenet] New Open-Source PIM BIDIR (and more) implementation

2015-08-18 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
So this is to choose between identical routes. Why is this needed? I have no idea. You'll have to ask Pierre. (And I'd appreciate an explanation myself.) -- Juliusz ___ homenet mailing list homenet@ietf.org

Re: [homenet] New Open-Source PIM BIDIR (and more) implementation

2015-08-18 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Tue, 18 Aug 2015, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: (If you test this with Babel, you need to set reflect-kernel-metric true in babeld's config file; Pierre tells me that this is done automatically by hnetd. I'll make some refinements to the reflect-kernel-metric code, and make it the default in

[homenet] HNCP and connected interfaces

2015-08-18 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
Section 6.1 says: A node MUST be able to detect whether two of its local internal interfaces are connected, e.g., by detecting an identical remote interface being part of the Common Links of both local interfaces. What should the node do if it detects that two interfaces are on the same

Re: [homenet] NTP in Homenet?

2015-08-18 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
Either use the pool or use one from an SNTP DHCP option an edge router received from an ISP and published in HNCP. Ah, silly me. Yes, of course, we're already publishing DHCP(v6) options. RFC 7084 recommends support for NTP option. If NTP is supported, the router is required to request

Re: [homenet] NTP in Homenet?

2015-08-18 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
I don't know of anything in the homenet routers that require a peering level of synchronization. And I think it would be dangerous to suggest it's achievable. Well, if configured with both client-server and peer relationships, NTP will converge to a set of disjoint lowest-dispersion trees, so

Re: [homenet] NTP in Homenet?

2015-08-18 Thread STARK, BARBARA H
Either use the pool or use one from an SNTP DHCP option an edge router received from an ISP and published in HNCP. Ah, silly me. Yes, of course, we're already publishing DHCP(v6) options. RFC 7084 recommends support for NTP option. If NTP is supported, the router is required to

Re: [homenet] New Open-Source PIM BIDIR (and more) implementation

2015-08-18 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
I am pleased to announce the public release of pimbd, the PIM implementation that was demonstrated during the last Bits and Bites in Prague. Excellent news, Pierre, automagic site-local multicast would be a great feature for Homenet. I'll try it out as soon as it migrates into an OpenWRT

Re: [homenet] NTP in Homenet?

2015-08-18 Thread Dave Taht
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Juliusz Chroboczek j...@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr wrote: Either use the pool or use one from an SNTP DHCP option an edge router received from an ISP and published in HNCP. Ah, silly me. Yes, of course, we're already publishing DHCP(v6) options. RFC 7084

Re: [homenet] New Open-Source PIM BIDIR (and more) implementation

2015-08-18 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
(If you test this with Babel, you need to set reflect-kernel-metric true What does that do? [...] So it takes whatever metric it came up with and sets the metric as kernel priority? That's right. So if there is a shorter prefix that has a lower metric, this will be chosen over a longer