marksue...@aol.com wrote:
3rd valve for second space a and fourth line d.
flat fingerings
Has anyone out there tried this
yes. they were flat on both my 8d and my other horn
have they gotten used to it on fast passages with
practice?
No; too clumsy on the hand
2009/4/28 marksue...@aol.com:
For intonation purposes I've started using 3rd valve for second space a and
fourth line d. For fast passages it gets a little tough. Has anyone out
there tried this and have they gotten used to it on fast passages with
practice?
It depends on how you have
Maybe this sounds lazy, but on fast passages I wouldn't be too concerned with
subtle intonation issues. Do what works best for the passage.
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Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:02:08 -0400
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Subject: [Hornlist] Fingering
For intonation purposes
For intonation purposes I've started using 3rd valve for second space a and
fourth line d. For fast passages it gets a little tough. Has anyone out
there tried this and have they gotten used to it on fast passages with
practice?
Ron
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Hans and other authoritis,
As a new comer on the french horn and a coach to my grand son I have some
silly questions.
One of my friends in the brass band where I play my cornet, advocates that
the standard fingering for both the Bb side and the F side is not the best
choice.
I have realised
On 26/02/2008, Borje Lofblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hans and other authoritis,
As a new comer on the french horn and a coach to my grand son I have some
silly questions.
No question asked with a genuine desire to learn something is ever silly!
One of my friends in the brass band where
Hi Hans
I quite agree with the ignorance of this trombonist
The standard fingering (starting with written c1 (first
ledger line below staff) on the F-horn is :
0-12-1-2-0-1-2-0-23-12 or 3-1-2-0 --- 2-0-2-0-1-2-0. That
is the span from c1 - g2, that´s covered by very young
fresh
Jonathan,
Thank´s a lot for your detailed answers to my questions. They will certainly
help me in understanding my grand son´s development as a french horn player.
Borje
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For the moment I have to questions, one is the recommendation for fingering
on the Bb and F side of a double horn. He has an Alexander 103 double horn.
My advice is that your grandson become thoroughly familiar with the
fingerings of both sides of the horn, across the full range. That
means
My horn, a Paxman model GT, is a CBA+ single horn with an F extension valve.
Generally I play it in C all the time. Interestingly it makes the alternate
fingerings for pitches below C (second space in the bass clef) more in tune
than the Sansone fingerings for the B flat horn for the same
Hi,
I am new to this list and am trying to learn as much as possible regarding
horn playing. This is with the ambition to assist my grand son.
For the moment I have to questions, one is the recommendation for fingering
on the Bb and F side of a double horn. He has an Alexander 103 double horn.
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From: Borje Lofblad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am new to this list and am trying to learn as much as
possible regarding horn playing. This is with the ambition to
assist my grand son.
For the moment I have to questions, one is the recommendation
for
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Steve F. writes:
I am currently playing a Bb single horn with a C valve, and
even without having a double horn
Steve F. writes:
I am currently playing a Bb single horn with a C valve, and even without
having a double horn, there are still a myriad of fingering choices
available. As my teacher (and, no doubt, countless others) once observed,
the French Horn is one of the few instruments on which you
I was interested to read the posts that encourage
natural horn playing.
It seems to me that the most inspiring tunes for horn
tend to lay well on the natural horn. Case in point,
the horn call from Til Eulenspiegel. I enjoy
practicing it on the natural horn and wonder if
Strauss didn't hear his
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I was interested to read the posts that encourage natural
horn playing.
It seems to me
I am looking for a fingering chart for both an older Eb and F Mellaphone.
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Thank you.
Tom McKenzie
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Use trumpet-cornet or TC baritone fingering chart for Eb mellophone.
(When you ask for the trumpet-cornet or baritone fingering chart, don't
tell anybody the real reason you want it.)
For F mellophone, use the same fingering chart but play every note 1 step
lower than written on the Eb
I am looking for a fingering chart for both an older Eb and F Mellophone.
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Same as trumpet.
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Subject: [Hornlist] Fingering chart Mellaphone
I am looking for a fingering chart for both an older Eb and F
Mellaphone. Would
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Tom McKenzie
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What are the most
Steve, On the Bb Horn have you tried 12 2 12 At speed any untunefulness on
the Ab would hardly be noticed
TC from Oz
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In spite of what some say about false fingerings, you sometimes need to do
what works. Until your fingers get fast enough, use the T3-T23-T3. The downside
is that you have to take the time during practice to learn the alternate
fingerings for each passage that requires it. In a piece I'm playing
At 5:25 AM -0700 5/8/05, Herbert Foster wrote:
In spite of what some say about false fingerings, you sometimes need to do
what works. Until your fingers get fast enough, use the T3-T23-T3. The
downside
is that you have to take the time during practice to learn the alternate
fingerings for each
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Fingering Question [Trill Fingerings]
At 5:25 AM -0700 5/8/05, Herbert Foster wrote:
In spite of what some say about false fingerings, you sometimes need to
do
what works. Until your fingers get fast enough, use the T3-T23-T3. The
downside
is that you have to take the time
In this march excerpt, which goes in a fast 2/4
http://www.kbnj.com/music/Horn_Fingering_Question.pdf
I've found the A-G#-A to weird to play as 1-2, 2-3, 1-2 on the B-flat horn,
so I've elected to take the A as open on the B-flat horn instead.
I imagine this is a reasonable choice but I
At 12:48 PM 5/7/05 -0400, Steve Freides wrote:
I've found the A-G#-A to weird to play as 1-2, 2-3, 1-2 on the B-flat horn,
so I've elected to take the A as open on the B-flat horn instead.
Other options would be open, 2, open. Also 3, 2-3, 3.
John Kowalchuk maker of
Steve Freides wrote:
In this march excerpt, which goes in a fast 2/4
http://www.kbnj.com/music/Horn_Fingering_Question.pdf
I've found the A-G#-A to weird to play as 1-2, 2-3, 1-2 on the B-flat
horn,
so I've elected to take the A as open on the B-flat horn instead.
If you decide to go with the open
Jerry Houston wrote:
Steve Freides wrote:
In this march excerpt, which goes in a fast 2/4
http://www.kbnj.com/music/Horn_Fingering_Question.pdf
I've found the A-G#-A to weird to play as 1-2, 2-3, 1-2 on
the B-flat
horn, so I've elected to take the A as open on the B-flat horn
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http://www.kbnj.com/music/Horn_Fingering_Question.pdf
I, too have a horn with the open A usable, but you can surely do A on third
valve, either horn, and the G# is just 2/3. Use the horn that best allows
In a message dated 5/7/2005 10:09:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
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That's actually what I've been doing (and I should have said that in my
original message). It makes the two sections use the same fingering of
open, 2, open, which nice for a beginner like me.
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Jerry Houston wrote:
Steve Freides wrote:
In this march excerpt, which goes in a fast 2/4
http://www.kbnj.com/music/Horn_Fingering_Question.pdf
I've found the A-G#-A to weird to play as 1-2, 2-3, 1-2 on
the B-flat
horn, so I've elected to take
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Every now and then, one of the Schmidt copy Bb horns that King made comes up
on eBay in the $200 range. Pick one up and have some fun with it. You'll
find it is quite a different instrument, and it will lead you to interesting
things that can be transferred to a double. The first thing,
If it goes by pretty fast you can do the Ab with 2 on the Bb horn.
What is prominent? the A or the Ab?
Paul Mansur
On Saturday, May 7, 2005, at 12:48 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
In this march excerpt, which goes in a fast 2/4
http://www.kbnj.com/music/Horn_Fingering_Question.pdf
I've found the
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Hi Steve?,
This is easy .
You need to be aware of the false fingerings that have
or will be suggested, however, I would suggest
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Hi,
My answer to the above fingering problem:
A = T12
G# = T23
A = T12
low A = T12
All on the Bb side, you'll notice.
You could also play
At my most recent lesson, I was playing a passage from early on in the
Horner method that started on third space C and went up C-D-E. Because I'm
playing a single F horn, I was playing all three as open. Chris suggested I
finger the D with the first valve held down, a fingering which I was aware
Of Steve Freides
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At my most recent lesson, I was playing a passage from early
on in the Horner method that started on third space C and
went up C-D-E. Because I'm playing a single F horn, I was
playing all
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Playing around with this on my own for the first few days
after the
lesson, I decided I liked
Steve Freides wrote:
The piece is in concert A-minor and I find I much prefer the sound of
concert A below middle C as 1-2 to the more usual open fingering
because 1-2 is sharper. The same goes for the concert A an octave
higher when taken on the F horn, 1-2 is preferable...[snip]...
Am I
I've stolen most of Reginald Jacque's SATB arrangement of the traditional
Normandy tune to the Christmas Carol Away In A Manger and created a 3-part
arrangement for 2 horns and soprano.
The piece is in concert A-minor and I find I much prefer the sound of
concert A below middle C as 1-2 to the
So you put in sardines, and out come clams. Pretty fishy, if you ask me.
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Check the Lars Kirmser site for serial numbers and you will be able to
determine age. The 4D is recognizable in photos because it has the deco
leadpipe and bell braces that distinguish the 6D and 8D. The 14D braces are
just curved wire, not squared off.
If you search for Reynolds horns, they
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So you put in sardines, and out come clams. Pretty fishy, if you ask
me.
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If you play this passage on 1st valve, you
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My two favorites for quality and value are the Reynolds Contempora (made in
Cleveland preferable, but Abilene will be fine with newer valves) and the Conn
4D (only trust those made in Elkhart. Not the 14D, it is a student model). I
see a lot of King 618 models on ebay, but I don't have
in advance.
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My two favorites for quality
Here's a copy of an exercise from the Anton Horner Primary Studies book I'm
working on:
http://www.kbnj.com/music/HornerP13Var4.pdf
It's at the bottom of Page 13, Variation 4. If you've got the book, you
needn't bother with the link above.
My question concerns the phrase that starts in measure
If you play this passage on 1st valve, you are actually playing an
e-flat horn and - as you realized exactly - partials 8 - 9- 10 - 9 - 8
The other way, when you valved the same few notes, you probably valved
them as 1 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 1. The cause for the clam might be here the
written d2 fingered
I thought I'd post some of these. You could really do any partial or note or
intervals you want so long as the fingerings are the same. The point is to do
these slowly at first with a metronome, then over the course of a few months
slowly build up the tempi.
The simplest fingering combinations
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