Re: [Hornlist] Re: Why is shortest valve slide in the middle?

2009-02-07 Thread hans.pi...@t-online.de
Simon, you are right about the rigid system of education, which is not only in Japan, but in many countries. Many band instructors around the world contribute much to this rigid system, as they are lacking most of the basic instructions themselves, thus being victims of these rigid systems

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Why is shortest valve slide in the middle?

2009-02-07 Thread Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
To me the distribution of slide lengths mostly is a matter of architecture. With rotor intruments the longer loops (1st and 3rd) get more space to bend away from the center, where the semitone slide often is too short to bend. I have seen photos of rotor flugelhorns, alto horns, and tubas with

RE: [Hornlist] Re: Why is shortest valve slide in the middle?

2009-02-07 Thread Bill Gross
And this answers for me why the F side is mounted on top of the B flat side. I always thought it should be the other way with the shorter slides on top, but it's now clear from the information y'all have provided the F slides on the bottom wouldn't clear the bell, specially the 3rd valve slide.

Re: [hornlist]Inauguration picture

2009-02-07 Thread Herbert Foster
Antiphonal horn section! Once our band had the horns and tubas at opposite ends, and the result was stereo ping pong oomp--pah. Anyone remember ping pong in stereo? Herb Foster From: John Baumgart john.baumg...@comcast.net To: The Horn List

[Hornlist] Hans, setup and Sansone

2009-02-07 Thread Leonard Peggy Brown
Regarding design, you should remember, what was the old design. The Uhlmann Viennese of 1824 never had the problem of the third slide protruding verse the bell nor had the Paris models any difficulty. By the way, I remember two or three single instruments, where the valves were assembled as

Re: [Hornlist] Hans, setup and Sansone

2009-02-07 Thread hans.pi...@t-online.de
Leonard, I have pictures (out of old catalogues books) of nearly every horn made during the centuries, so I have seen these Sansone horns poorly made band horns a well. The main problems are that many makers rely on questionable players as advisors and many makers are not able to combine perfect

[Hornlist] TMJ (again)

2009-02-07 Thread John Roberts-James
While doing medical research I came across this url. It may perhaps be of some help to sufferers, but it is commercial and I have no further knowledge of it than that. http://www.tmj-help.org/?gclid=CJbM0aCFy5gCFQ4yQgodkmW40w John Roberts-James http://www.alternativetherapyclinic.co.uk

[Hornlist] US Marine Band and Chamber Orchestra

2009-02-07 Thread Margaret Dikel
You know, I'm so thrilled that so many of you support our fellow musicians who choose to serve in the US Armed Forces, even those who (shudder the thought) never actually go through basic training. Just makes me proud. For those of you who wonder about the quality of the US Marine Chamber

RE: [Hornlist] Re: Why is shortest valve slide in the middle?

2009-02-07 Thread daniel . canarutto
- Message from william.s.gr...@gmail.com - And this answers for me why the F side is mounted on top of the B flat side. I always thought it should be the other way with the shorter slides on top, but it's now clear from the information y'all have provided the F slides on the bottom

RE: [Hornlist] White House Marine Band

2009-02-07 Thread Bill Gross
I can only speak for myself in this. You have taken a shot at them. They aren't in a position to respond. It's a one sided thing. We just have your version -Original Message- From: horn-bounces+bgross=airmail@music.memphis.edu

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Why is shortest valve slide in the middle?

2009-02-07 Thread lewhorn9
Holton used to make one years ago! It was a pretty lousy horn. Walt Lewis Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Bill Gross william.s.gr...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:14:27 To: 'The Horn List'horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Re: Why is

Re: [Hornlist] US Marine Band and Chamber Orchestra

2009-02-07 Thread lewhorn9
Margaret, NO DISRESPECT was ever intended by any post I wrote about the President's Own Marine Corps Band. I have had the pleasure of hearing them twice in my life, an they were far and above the best band I've ever heard. Marines that spend a minimum of 12 weeks in boot camp really want the

Re: [hornlist] Inauguration picture

2009-02-07 Thread lewhorn9
John, Would that be the course that the author WEB Griffin describes as learning not to piss in the potted palms? Ooohrah!!! Walt Lewis Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: John Dutton dutto...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:30:32 To:

re: [Hornlist] US Marine Band and Chamber Orchestra

2009-02-07 Thread John Dutton
[quote] snip Here in the Washington DC region, the members of the Marine Band (and that includes the chamber orchestra) are considered some of the finest musicians arounds. I don't hear members of the Navy, Air Force, or Army bands dissing their colleagues for not getting muddy. They have a job to

[Hornlist] (no subject)

2009-02-07 Thread John Dutton
[quote] Not to take away from the eloquent statements of Mr. Dutton but I wonder why one would not recommend the Air Force Field Bands. [/quote] Absolutely. Several of my friends from school chose this route. The USAF has fine musical ensembles and I did not intentionally slight them. They

Re: [Hornlist] (no subject)

2009-02-07 Thread Michael Gilliland
On 2/7/09 7:06 PM, John Dutton dutto...@gmail.com wrote: [quote] Not to take away from the eloquent statements of Mr. Dutton but I wonder why one would not recommend the Air Force Field Bands. [/quote] Absolutely. Several of my friends from school chose this route. The USAF has fine