Re: [HOT] Inflationary use of the mailinglist

2017-03-26 Thread joost schouppe
It took me a long time to accept mailing lists as the main communication tool for OSM related stuff. But I did find a way to cope with being subscribed to many (many!) osm mailing lists. In any mail application it should be possible to devise automatic rules to preclassify mails. I have a rule

Re: [HOT] Mapswipe - whats happening with the data?

2017-03-26 Thread john whelan
OK I accept that mapswipe is wonderful. Thanks for the input. Cheerio John On 26 Mar 2017 12:52 pm, "Pete Masters" wrote: > Hey John, it's not just that its quicker. It is also that different people > can engage with the task. It's hard to contribute if you have a

Re: [HOT] Inflationary use of the mailinglist

2017-03-26 Thread Julian Haag
Thanks for your reply, and thanks to Blake too! maybe I am just not able to use a mailinglist correctly. No doubt mapswipe is an interesting tool and is related to HOT. But in my opinion only urgend topics should go into a mailinglist. Don't get me wrong: During the Nepal quake there were

Re: [HOT] Inflationary use of the mailinglist

2017-03-26 Thread Blake Girardot HOT/OSM
Hi Julian, Thank you very much for being a part of the HOT community! HOT is doing mapping every day of the week and while there are times of severe crisis after a disaster when our mapping is focused and dramatically increased, the daily mapping for humanitarian projects is very important as

Re: [HOT] Inflationary use of the mailinglist

2017-03-26 Thread Jo
Your message really surprises me. MapSwipe is an app that was created by MSF, to help save HOT's mappers time, so they can focus on mapping. I think that's an interesting discussion thread. Not sure about the others, but the way to read mailing lists is to look at the topics that interest you and

Re: [HOT] Mapswipe - whats happening with the data?

2017-03-26 Thread Jo
Hi John, Both possibilities exist. You can 'reserve' a bunch of tile to work on while off line, or you can work online. It's easy to install it and play with it. Polyglot 2017-03-26 18:23 GMT+02:00 john whelan : > So what you're saying is it can scan about as fast as

[HOT] Inflationary use of the mailinglist

2017-03-26 Thread Julian Haag
Hello everyone, I am interested in information regarding HOT activations, the talk about real HOT problems and some news regarding HOT, so I joined this list about a year ago during the earthquake in Nepal. Currently I found myself deleting nearly 98% of the messages of this list even without

Re: [HOT] Mapswipe - whats happening with the data?

2017-03-26 Thread john whelan
So what you're saying is it can scan about as fast as JOSM using . Does it require an online connection or can it precharge so someone can do it on the bus and upload the results when it gets near WiFi? Thanks John On 26 March 2017 at 12:05, Pete Masters wrote: >

Re: [HOT] Mapswipe - whats happening with the data?

2017-03-26 Thread Pete Masters
Hi all, late to the party, but here are my two cents... MapSwipe, anecdotally for now, does save mappers' time. In an area where little OSM data exists, it can target mappers' efforts where people (or roads or rivers) exist. In the kind of rural landscapes we deal with a lot in MSF areas of

Re: [HOT] Mapswipe - whats happening with the data?

2017-03-26 Thread john whelan
>It's definitely useful to save actual mapper's time. For validation I'm not sure it would be a big help. I must be missing something. Mapswipe uses four passes and then we get different sized tiles out of it. We still need an old fashioned mapper to map the tile. Traditionally if a mapper

Re: [HOT] Mapswipe - whats happening with the data?

2017-03-26 Thread Hakuch
On 26.03.2017 15:01, john whelan wrote: > But does it address the concern about how much effort is expended compared > to the value added? if I put effort in something I of course want to know how, where and by whom it is used. 0x1E6B7645.asc Description: application/pgp-keys

Re: [HOT] Mapswipe - whats happening with the data?

2017-03-26 Thread john whelan
But does it address the concern about how much effort is expended compared to the value added? Cheerio John On 26 March 2017 at 08:44, Ralf Stephan wrote: > Search is your friend. Searching for Mapswipe yields eg > http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2521 > where clearly the

Re: [HOT] Mapswipe - whats happening with the data?

2017-03-26 Thread Ralf Stephan
Search is your friend. Searching for Mapswipe yields eg http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2521 where clearly the tiles are preselected. Also the description: "The data are prepared by MapSwipe" Regards, On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 2:40 PM john whelan wrote: > I seem to recall

Re: [HOT] Mapswipe - whats happening with the data?

2017-03-26 Thread john whelan
I seem to recall the same area is mapswiped by four different people before a mapper maps it. Other than the size of the tile or which area to give priority to I think the advantage is that people can do it anywhere on a smartphone. I would hesitate to say if it is worth doing or not. In future

Re: [HOT] Mapswipe - whats happening with the data?

2017-03-26 Thread Hakuch
On 26.03.2017 14:13, john whelan wrote: > My understanding is that mapswipe is only used to identify where to map. > Not to contribute to the map. > > Cheerio John of course there is no data transmitted to OSM, but how is the data (I mean, marked tiles) used after I transmitted it? How much is

Re: [HOT] Mapswipe - whats happening with the data?

2017-03-26 Thread Hakuch
On 26.03.2017 14:15, Jo wrote: > Tasks.hotosm.org Sierra Leone​ tasks were preprocessed using Mapswipe > results and in what way preprocessed? 0x1E6B7645.asc Description: application/pgp-keys ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org

Re: [HOT] Mapswipe - whats happening with the data?

2017-03-26 Thread john whelan
My understanding is that mapswipe is only used to identify where to map. Not to contribute to the map. Cheerio John On 26 Mar 2017 7:38 am, "Hakuch" wrote: > I contributed some data via mapswipe, but I could not find out where and > how exactly the marked tiles are used? Are

[HOT] Mapswipe - whats happening with the data?

2017-03-26 Thread Hakuch
I contributed some data via mapswipe, but I could not find out where and how exactly the marked tiles are used? Are there tasks where the marked tiles are beeing mapped? Can I see somewhere, what and how much data I contributed via mapswipe? greets 0x1E6B7645.asc Description:

Re: [HOT] [OSM-talk] A tool for picking up settlements tagged as a single building?

2017-03-26 Thread john whelan
areasize:300- works quite well. I picked up nine of them. You get a fair amount of large buildings mixed in but its doable with the todo list plugin. The maesurement tool helps as well. Thanks John On 26 March 2017 at 02:04, Jo wrote: > JOSM comes with a measurement

Re: [HOT] [OSM-talk] A tool for picking up settlements tagged as a single building?

2017-03-26 Thread Jo
JOSM comes with a measurement plugin :-) I drew a square somewhere in Africa with sides of about 100m and the area is about 1m2. For giggles, I then grabbed it and dropped it in Europe. Now the circumference is 255m, so one side 65m and the area became 4047 square meters. Cheers, and hurray