Re: [HOT] Buildings and HOT's reputation in OSM

2017-12-13 Thread Walker Bradley
Dear All, There have been two responses to mine about a building editor. I apologize for the confusion and I do not advocate for a separate building, nor does anyone else. I’ve moved my discussion to the appropriate slack channel. Thank you for the links. Best, Walker On Dec 13, 2017, at

Re: [HOT] Buildings and HOT's reputation in OSM

2017-12-13 Thread Benoit Fournier
Hi all, I think people interested in the subject of a building tool in iD should read a few pages (if not already found and read): - View of the maintener https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/528#issuecomment-346234741 - First coding attempt https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/pull/2699

Re: [HOT] Buildings and HOT's reputation in OSM

2017-12-12 Thread john whelan
Can this be packaged up in a format that cynical OSM mappers can absorb? I'm thinking not glossy with smiling faces but a note in their OSM diary that we can draw to the attention of OSMWEEKLY. Possibly through a post on the osmtalk titled something like "local mapping after HOT"? Compose it in

Re: [HOT] Buildings and HOT's reputation in OSM

2017-12-12 Thread Pete Masters
Apologies for going back to an earlier point, but i think yes there are examples. The OSM Bangladesh crew, while not without original, local catalysts, had a resurgence after a HOT project with MSF. While the project was very successful (and has had impact in terms of medical care in deprived

Re: [HOT] Buildings and HOT's reputation in OSM

2017-12-12 Thread Blake Girardot HOT/OSM
ted with the > existing editor and What would the skills required be for the person(s)? > > > Best, > > > Walker > > > -- > *From:* john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 12, 2017 09:24 > *To:* Rory McCann

Re: [HOT] Buildings and HOT's reputation in OSM

2017-12-12 Thread Nate Smith
Walker -- *From:* john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 12, 2017 09:24 *To:* Rory McCann *Cc:* HOT *Subject:* Re: [HOT] Buildings and HOT's reputation in OSM A specialised buildings editor idea has a lot of merit. Less to train, fewer options to go wrong. Backg

Re: [HOT] Buildings and HOT's reputation in OSM

2017-12-12 Thread Walker Bradley
with the existing editor and What would the skills required be for the person(s)? Best, Walker From: john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 09:24 To: Rory McCann Cc: HOT Subject: Re: [HOT] Buildings and HOT's reputation

Re: [HOT] Buildings and HOT's reputation in OSM

2017-12-12 Thread john whelan
A specialised buildings editor idea has a lot of merit. Less to train, fewer options to go wrong. Background upload after each building or set time. The problem with Bjorn's idea is unfortunately anyone can lead a maperthon. The HOT Training group meets regularly and at least one of the

Re: [HOT] Buildings and HOT's reputation in OSM

2017-12-12 Thread Bjoern Hassler
Dear friends, I do think that quality assurance is important. That doesn't mean just assuring how objects are mapped, but also quality assuring training and mapathons. From my perspective (specialising in adult education) I'd say there's a fair few things that could be done to improve outcomes

Re: [HOT] Buildings and HOT's reputation in OSM

2017-12-12 Thread Rory McCann
It seems like there is a need for a specialized "buildings editor". Yes JOSM building_tools beats iD now, but how about making a new web based editor that addresses the problems you highlight: * Can only enter buildings * Uploads (& downloads) frequently. Potlatch used to upload as soon as you

Re: [HOT] Buildings and HOT's reputation in OSM

2017-12-11 Thread john whelan
I accept what you say Ralph but the motorcycle project is being run by an conventional European or North American NGO. It's organised mapping. >The result will be a dedicated group in each country that will continue the work, train more local people and expand the mapping community. So is there

Re: [HOT] Buildings and HOT's reputation in OSM

2017-12-11 Thread ralph.aytoun
John, I am not sure what you are trying to say, but to help you understand “Microgrants” I can explain some of them to you. I am helping the WAMM (West African Motorbike Mappers) who are in Sierra Leone. The lead for this was Ivan Gayton from Medicins sans Frontieres and Rupert Alan (A regular

Re: [HOT] Buildings and HOT's reputation in OSM

2017-12-11 Thread john whelan
Are we talking about Task Manger projects initiated and run by local project managers or something else? If we are talking about Task Manger projects then I suggest asking the project manager(s) to do a write up on their experiences and see if this can be brought to the attention of OSMWEEKLY.

Re: [HOT] Buildings and HOT's reputation in OSM

2017-12-10 Thread john whelan
; >>> · Correcting buildings when validating/shortage of validators? >>> OK if this is unlikely to be the solution then we are back to better tools >>> for initial digitising. Can you help with coding? >>> >>> · Wasn't aware of any scori

Re: [HOT] Buildings and HOT's reputation in OSM

2017-12-10 Thread Scott Davies
;> >> · Wasn't aware of any scoring for validated tiles. >> >> >> >> Cheers - Phil >> >> >> >> *From:* john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Sunday, December 10, 2017 11:07 AM >> *To:* Phil (The Geek) Wyatt >

Re: [HOT] Buildings and HOT's reputation in OSM

2017-12-09 Thread Phil (The Geek) Wyatt
: Sunday, December 10, 2017 11:07 AM To: Phil (The Geek) Wyatt Cc: hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] Buildings and HOT's reputation in OSM I think the London mapperthons expect 30% of their attendees to return. So unfortunately 50% can be expected to be "disposable" mappers and

Re: [HOT] Buildings and HOT's reputation in OSM

2017-12-09 Thread john whelan
I think the London mapperthons expect 30% of their attendees to return. So unfortunately 50% can be expected to be "disposable" mappers and they don't search out the information as you do. If we can keep their interest a bit longer they make fewer mistakes. So one thing might be to see what we

Re: [HOT] Buildings and HOT's reputation in OSM

2017-12-09 Thread Phil (The Geek) Wyatt
Hi John, I have no formal role in HOT, just a casual OSM mapper so all these comments are from that perspective. I have participated in HOT projects via their tasking manager. I am also not a coder but am aware of the process involved in respect of the ID Editor and Tasking Manager