Re: [Hpr] Series Idea
This is an excellent question. I think it's been discussed before but what do hackers do better than discuss things ad infinitum? Hackers are people, too. As such, stories are of interest to hackers. In some ways, stories seem almost as on topic as firing up your favorite hex editor. Not only that but the discussion of stories tends to be from a hacker's perspective. I find that generally more helpful than reviews found elsewhere. On 8/25/19 7:27 PM, Christopher M. Hobbs wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Granted I haven't contributed an episode in a few months but what do movies have to do with hackers? I don't mean to be a stick in the mud, general inquiry. I have no strong feelings one way or the other about the idea. cmh - -- Happy Hacking! http://manor.space/~cmhobbs GPG: 1200 0808 F968 47AB F489 91A3 FE26 6FFB 1A77 0868 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEEgAICPloR6v0iZGj/iZv+xp3CGgFAl1jGUQACgkQ/iZv+xp3 CGi73xAAnoTPI0d3dlbwg9qfqM7TnKLJ1YAXWRGTS4k++lE5z3vXiRi54EoeFwRD ZceEOGNKdfFnVK+l3v5Z8iQ3NBE+3IPf7SzxBN6Bjsiogtxfi5rN+tY6eXJBkvja XsB78Q30Y4XYLLMrHsTR+iVNM5OB017wKQQdT0+BwXByclllTHsuAmMAt9GZO6ey A5VEJEcPjUE692tA9h+6xZkm0aiQr/et8rrpvb/ABnzIAmm1fUuiyfdpJPU9pDH1 WFpOXOkf5bZj1QQfsjM2YFMWA2d3sS4t1oglHJNowFvxAHYwmHNpQVR9Q4wLzFa8 LfDRyObeLB+6V4Vaq/QuyCeo3UHVyjN69XBYC8ibHErWMTvC0mym6B8nhe7stOSt WLePC0ZRxf230DkpmO7q+/JgP/qUVf0H8xHxXsVyqIaRMIBDeJjAXcxMlc9FCqJp u84mzrchOTKFt2rrwdvWqz9p18hKB2AQITh6fSzye3BTQJiVuc9cji6rQhr+9qE/ F1WDp7t15kbjOz67AmoD4lgSSfvwP7gb019fK8FsQUaQXdM2Cu2z2Cy7ovI25piJ /wBpIU57DKSXrS+vLZxot+BP4TGjDqpOWHUGczzYBYuqpkC/XLMaLbr+nFbhMTG0 MydXZ4yIfcJPwud+skTTbFh8Jq63CUPmSS8CgmXPG6CGRVlECV8= =dp0K -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Series Idea
I think if we had a recurring show where people reviewed an audio book, there is no reason why we couldn't have a show where someone did a movie review. Personally I don't think the movie being reviewed would have to be "free", but that's just my opinion. I think a review of free movies, low budget movies, big budget movies and all things in-between would be interesting. Hell I don't care if someone just wanted to review Netflix original movies only, I'd listen. As for format, I guess that would be up to you. I would enjoy something round table like the book club, but this is your show idea. You are just checking with us to make sure that it would be something appropriate for HPR, and I say hell yeah. Go for it. Honkeymagoo On Sun, Aug 25, 2019, 7:57 PM Klaatu wrote: > I think this is of interest to hackers. Certainly is to this one, anyway. > > I agree with your solution to defining 'free'. If you can find it in a > place that claims to be doing due diligence in determining that the film's > creators intend it to be available for $0 then it's good to go. And if some > contrary contributor decides to review something less legal, it's just a > review, so while not in the spirit of the series, it's not a risk to HPR. > > On 26 August 2019 8:15:32 AM NZST, lostnbronx > wrote: >> >> On 8/25/19, Nigel Verity wrote: >> >> How strictly do you feel the term "free" should be interpreted? I'm sure >>> most of us know how to get hold of movies for free as in beer, even if they >>> are not necessarily 100% legitimate in terms of all the copyright >>> legalities. >>> >> >> That's a good question. I guess I mean both free as in beer, and free >> as in freedom. Either Public Domain, or some sort of free license. >> Archive.org is a good source for content like this, but it's not the >> only one. >> >> Since HPR won't be hosting or distributing the films, I don't believe >> we're looking at any issues concerning copyright. >> >> ___ > Hpr mailing list > Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org > http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org > ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Hpr Digest, Vol 131, Issue 4
From: Nigel Verity > On that basis I will certainly submit a review. Perhaps your idea could be > expanded to include books or even music as well. I don't see a reason why it couldn't. Certainly, it wouldn't bother me. From: "Christopher M. Hobbs" > Granted I haven't contributed an episode in a few months but what do > movies have to do with hackers? > > I don't mean to be a stick in the mud, general inquiry. I have no > strong feelings one way or the other about the idea. I was wondering that, myself, which is was what prompted my question to Ken, and then the community as a whole: does this qualify as HPR material? Many of us were friends with Lord D, and it's only natural to be partial to an idea like this when his name is attached. But, asked another way, is HPR a decent venue for a general film review series? If it wasn't "Lord D's Film Reviews", but just "LnB's Film Reviews", does that leave you with a different feeling entirely? Personally, I intend to work from categories that call back to other HPR eps I've done, specifically showing how assessing films ties in with what I've been talking about. I devised a point system based on these categories which can be used for most films (art house stuff might be a challenge). So, I'm not even sure, myself, if this is a good fit for HPR, or if it's better off as a show of its own. -LnB -- http://www.cavalcadeaudio.com/ ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Series Idea
I think this is of interest to hackers. Certainly is to this one, anyway. I agree with your solution to defining 'free'. If you can find it in a place that claims to be doing due diligence in determining that the film's creators intend it to be available for $0 then it's good to go. And if some contrary contributor decides to review something less legal, it's just a review, so while not in the spirit of the series, it's not a risk to HPR. On 26 August 2019 8:15:32 AM NZST, lostnbronx wrote: >On 8/25/19, Nigel Verity wrote: > >> How strictly do you feel the term "free" should be interpreted? I'm >sure >> most of us know how to get hold of movies for free as in beer, even >if they >> are not necessarily 100% legitimate in terms of all the copyright >> legalities. > >That's a good question. I guess I mean both free as in beer, and free >as in freedom. Either Public Domain, or some sort of free license. >Archive.org is a good source for content like this, but it's not the >only one. > >Since HPR won't be hosting or distributing the films, I don't believe >we're looking at any issues concerning copyright. >-- >http://www.cavalcadeaudio.com/ > >___ >Hpr mailing list >Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org >http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Series Idea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Granted I haven't contributed an episode in a few months but what do movies have to do with hackers? I don't mean to be a stick in the mud, general inquiry. I have no strong feelings one way or the other about the idea. cmh - -- Happy Hacking! http://manor.space/~cmhobbs GPG: 1200 0808 F968 47AB F489 91A3 FE26 6FFB 1A77 0868 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEEgAICPloR6v0iZGj/iZv+xp3CGgFAl1jGUQACgkQ/iZv+xp3 CGi73xAAnoTPI0d3dlbwg9qfqM7TnKLJ1YAXWRGTS4k++lE5z3vXiRi54EoeFwRD ZceEOGNKdfFnVK+l3v5Z8iQ3NBE+3IPf7SzxBN6Bjsiogtxfi5rN+tY6eXJBkvja XsB78Q30Y4XYLLMrHsTR+iVNM5OB017wKQQdT0+BwXByclllTHsuAmMAt9GZO6ey A5VEJEcPjUE692tA9h+6xZkm0aiQr/et8rrpvb/ABnzIAmm1fUuiyfdpJPU9pDH1 WFpOXOkf5bZj1QQfsjM2YFMWA2d3sS4t1oglHJNowFvxAHYwmHNpQVR9Q4wLzFa8 LfDRyObeLB+6V4Vaq/QuyCeo3UHVyjN69XBYC8ibHErWMTvC0mym6B8nhe7stOSt WLePC0ZRxf230DkpmO7q+/JgP/qUVf0H8xHxXsVyqIaRMIBDeJjAXcxMlc9FCqJp u84mzrchOTKFt2rrwdvWqz9p18hKB2AQITh6fSzye3BTQJiVuc9cji6rQhr+9qE/ F1WDp7t15kbjOz67AmoD4lgSSfvwP7gb019fK8FsQUaQXdM2Cu2z2Cy7ovI25piJ /wBpIU57DKSXrS+vLZxot+BP4TGjDqpOWHUGczzYBYuqpkC/XLMaLbr+nFbhMTG0 MydXZ4yIfcJPwud+skTTbFh8Jq63CUPmSS8CgmXPG6CGRVlECV8= =dp0K -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Series Idea
That's a very good point. If a movie is available from a public domain source then it's reasonable to request that the host identifies that source. Otherwise it is simply a movie recommendation (or possibly the opposite) and it is up to the HPR listener to decide how, and from where, to obtain a copy. No impact on HPR at all. On that basis I will certainly submit a review. Perhaps your idea could be expanded to include books or even music as well. Nige ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Series Idea
On 8/25/19, Nigel Verity wrote: > How strictly do you feel the term "free" should be interpreted? I'm sure > most of us know how to get hold of movies for free as in beer, even if they > are not necessarily 100% legitimate in terms of all the copyright > legalities. That's a good question. I guess I mean both free as in beer, and free as in freedom. Either Public Domain, or some sort of free license. Archive.org is a good source for content like this, but it's not the only one. Since HPR won't be hosting or distributing the films, I don't believe we're looking at any issues concerning copyright. -- http://www.cavalcadeaudio.com/ ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Series Idea
Hi Lostnbronx How strictly do you feel the term "free" should be interpreted? I'm sure most of us know how to get hold of movies for free as in beer, even if they are not necessarily 100% legitimate in terms of all the copyright legalities. Remember these vary from country to country, so an HPR person in country x may be able to obtain and review a specific movie for zero cost without breaking any local laws, while another HPR contributor in country y may be "pushing the boundaries". My favourite movie is one which I'd bet few, if any, HPR people will ever had heard of. I'd love to review it, and encourage people to watch it, but I'm pretty sure it has a few years to run before it becomes public domain. Nige (aka Beeza). From: Hpr on behalf of lostnbronx Sent: 25 August 2019 18:13 To: hpr Subject: Re: [Hpr] Series Idea On 8/25/19, Jeroen Baten wrote: > Sounds like fun. Create a review panel, record the review. Let's do a > tryout. > > Regards, > Jeroen Baten I think there was a film review series on HPR a while back that was a group chat thing. That's a real hassle to edit (at least, I find it to be). I'm more interested in something that's just run & gun, where I'll record the show when I'm driving around in the car. It makes the editing simple, and if it's not simple, I'm not likely to keep doing it. This would not, in any way, preclude others from doing reviews for the series in whatever ways they'd like. For myself, simple and easy means I can maintain it over time. -- https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cavalcadeaudio.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C4480dd271017494e932708d7297fa95a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637023500585746018sdata=iBbcQ%2BM%2BbFGYC%2BUuJWTmwvEd7NivL0858NdOI3KtnYY%3Dreserved=0 ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fhackerpublicradio.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhpr_hackerpublicradio.orgdata=02%7C01%7C%7C4480dd271017494e932708d7297fa95a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637023500585746018sdata=5EtUXeKjaJhAjKdOcexRjWy0phd0HksX2zrKzv14dvY%3Dreserved=0 ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Series Idea
On 8/25/19, Jeroen Baten wrote: > Sounds like fun. Create a review panel, record the review. Let's do a > tryout. > > Regards, > Jeroen Baten I think there was a film review series on HPR a while back that was a group chat thing. That's a real hassle to edit (at least, I find it to be). I'm more interested in something that's just run & gun, where I'll record the show when I'm driving around in the car. It makes the editing simple, and if it's not simple, I'm not likely to keep doing it. This would not, in any way, preclude others from doing reviews for the series in whatever ways they'd like. For myself, simple and easy means I can maintain it over time. -- http://www.cavalcadeaudio.com/ ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
[Hpr] Series Idea
This is cribbed from a letter I sent to Ken, and he suggested I might want to run it by the list. I had an idea for an HPR series. As you might recall, among the many podcasts he did, Lord Drachenblut had one called "Ten Buck Review", wherein he reviewed movies from the bargain bin at Wal-mart that were $10 or less. I did a review for that show, of a film off the Internet Archive. I was thinking of starting up a series for HPR, called, "Lord D's Film Reviews", where I grab a movie from some free source online, such as Archive.org, and do a review of it following a few of the categories I outlined in the "Random Elements of Storytelling" series. It's "Lord D's" reviews, because the series will be dedicated to him. I'm not a tech guy; I only worked with him through the review podcast. For me, that will always be how I knew Lord D. The show notes will have the links to the films. And also, of course, this would be an open series, to which anyone could contribute. So, my question is, can this be considered "of interest to hackers"? I'm on the fence about this part, so opinions are very welcome. -- http://www.cavalcadeaudio.com/ ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
