Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2011-01-12 Thread Dale Beams
On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 09:55 -0600, Dale Beams wrote: In addition, other programs often use date/time of photo as an indication of loading to the grid. For example, the first photo having a time of 11:00 and the next having a time of 11:00:15 would indicate the first and next photos of the

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2011-01-11 Thread Jeffrey Martin
If HDR is a desired action, the software should detect different exposures in the exif data, and then ask. Only then. That's my opinion (so generally i agree with Harry) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group.

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2011-01-11 Thread Jeffrey Martin
I agree with Bart. It only makes sense to me, if the preview window shows the (unwarped) images, and their connections to their neighbors, this seems like a perfect place to move / arrange images, and perform local optimizations. in fact, this is exactly what autopano giga already does. it

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2011-01-10 Thread Marius Loots
Monday, January 3, 2011, 5:31:16 PM, you wrote: Dale for table sizes. This is essentially a table Dale Dialog: Dale How many rows columns Dale The other option is to present a table layout. It's then easy to mark Dale each cell in the table as row/column, set the direction, set the Dale

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2011-01-10 Thread Yuval Levy
On January 10, 2011 05:13:19 am Jeffrey Martin wrote: Features are like sex. Make one mistake and you have to support it for life -Dave McClure you can't kill a baby but you can kill a feature. I am waiting for the day we can kill the old preview window (we still can't because of HDR mode).

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2011-01-10 Thread Jeffrey Martin
but in the preview window you can see how each image is linked to each other one, right? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at:

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2011-01-10 Thread Harry van der Wolf
2011/1/2 john doe guerrerodelu...@gmail.com I was thinking how about making a window at the beginning that asks the user if he wants to run Hugin as a normal panorama stitcher or in HDR mode?? I think this is abosultely the incorrect approach when you want to make things simple. How many

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2011-01-10 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Montag, 10. Januar 2011 schrieb Harry van der Wolf: I was thinking how about making a window at the beginning that asks the user if he wants to run Hugin as a normal panorama stitcher or in HDR mode?? I think this is abosultely the incorrect approach when you want to make things

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2011-01-09 Thread Yuval Levy
On January 4, 2011 02:25:52 am Rogier Wolff wrote: On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 10:15:30PM -0500, Yuval Levy wrote: On January 2, 2011 06:35:02 pm Bruno Postle wrote: I see very little value in a wizard that asks you a number of rows and columns, this will only add complication to the GUI and

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2011-01-09 Thread Yuval Levy
On January 9, 2011 05:08:40 pm Bruno Postle wrote: manually arranging photos to give the optimiser a head start is basically a waste of time. (except when using the XYZ mosaic mode, this seems to be heavily dependent on initial position, but I suspect this is a bug) unless you are 100% sure

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2011-01-05 Thread Jeffrey Martin
Thanks Bruno. Feels good to start. https://bugs.launchpad.net/hugin/+bug/697581 :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at:

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2011-01-04 Thread Jeffrey Martin
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR) Other recipients: On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 05:20:22PM +, Bruno Postle wrote: I think there is a case for having an expert mode, or rather having a central place where XYZ mosaic and HDR/bracketing/fusion is enabled per

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2011-01-04 Thread Jeffrey Martin
We are reaching a point in the discussion where it is appropriate to compare ptgui and autopano pro. ptgui has the hugin-type UI while Autopano Pro has the preview window-type UI. APP is geared better towards people who don't want to understand the technical aspects of stitching. the UI is

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2011-01-04 Thread Jeffrey Martin
Yuval, I think you are a crack smoker. ;-) Hugin is a panorama stitcher. It has some options that let you do it in a few different ways. It's not like a bloody office suite!! :-P On Sunday, January 2, 2011 3:37:42 PM UTC+1, Yuv wrote: Hugin is like an Office suite. In an office suite

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2011-01-04 Thread Bruno Postle
On Tue 04-Jan-2011 at 10:30 -0800, Jeffrey Martin wrote: But, and it is a big but, there are a bunch of little annoying things that make the process sort of non-intuitive. Where is the best place for me to report such stuff? https://bugs.launchpad.net/hugin The more specific the report the

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2011-01-03 Thread Dale Beams
Not as complicated as one might seem. There are many programs that ask for table sizes. This is essentially a table Dialog: How many rows columns Which direction Etc. The other option is to present a table layout. It's then easy to mark each cell in the table as row/column, set the

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2011-01-03 Thread Dale Beams
In addition, other programs often use date/time of photo as an indication of loading to the grid. For example, the first photo having a time of 11:00 and the next having a time of 11:00:15 would indicate the first and next photos of the set, and their relationship to one another. This method is

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2011-01-02 Thread Yuval Levy
On December 31, 2010 12:20:22 pm Bruno Postle wrote: make the preview the 'main' application window and make the everything else secondary - to the extent that only the preview is visible during a normal workflow. This approach is now practical since we got background loading of photos, the

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2011-01-02 Thread Yuval Levy
On January 1, 2011 06:57:46 am Bruno Postle wrote: [Snip making the preview the default GUI] Any change needs to be considered as a complete user experience: The 123 load, align, stitch functions need to be very prominent, I'd make them huge text and overlay them over the preview canvas

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2011-01-02 Thread Harry van der Wolf
2011/1/2 Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch On January 1, 2011 06:57:46 am Bruno Postle wrote: [Snip making the preview the default GUI] Any change needs to be considered as a complete user experience: The 123 load, align, stitch functions need to be very prominent, I'd make them huge text

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2011-01-02 Thread john doe
I was thinking how about making a window at the beginning that asks the user if he wants to run Hugin as a normal panorama stitcher or in HDR mode?? Then you show the fast preview window mode with a black background, on the right there would be a control panel with the 123 load, align and stitch

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2011-01-02 Thread Bruno Postle
On Sat 01-Jan-2011 at 17:11 -0500, Yuval Levy wrote: On December 26, 2010 07:07:29 pm Bruno Postle wrote: Hugin doesn't have a usable way to share lens and camera information between users, you basically have to recalculate this every time you create a project. A user can record his lens.ini

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2011-01-02 Thread Bruno Postle
On Sun 02-Jan-2011 at 09:37 -0500, Yuval Levy wrote: On January 1, 2011 06:57:46 am Bruno Postle wrote: [Snip making the preview the default GUI] The 123 load, align, stitch functions need to be very prominent, I'd make them huge text and overlay them over the preview canvas itself so this

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2011-01-02 Thread Yuval Levy
On January 2, 2011 06:35:02 pm Bruno Postle wrote: On Sat 01-Jan-2011 at 17:11 -0500, Yuval Levy wrote: On December 26, 2010 07:07:29 pm Bruno Postle wrote: Hugin doesn't have a usable way to share lens and camera information between users, you basically have to recalculate this every time

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2011-01-01 Thread Rogier Wolff
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 05:20:22PM +, Bruno Postle wrote: I think there is a case for having an expert mode, or rather having a central place where XYZ mosaic and HDR/bracketing/fusion is enabled per project. The confusion where the assistant is placed by the GUI at the same level as

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2011-01-01 Thread Bruno Postle
[Snip making the preview the default GUI] Any change needs to be considered as a complete user experience: The 123 load, align, stitch functions need to be very prominent, I'd make them huge text and overlay them over the preview canvas itself so this is all you see with an empty project.

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2011-01-01 Thread Yuval Levy
On December 26, 2010 07:07:29 pm Bruno Postle wrote: Hugin doesn't have a usable way to share lens and camera information between users, you basically have to recalculate this every time you create a project. A user can record his lens.ini file. This is the first thing Pablo taught me when I

[hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2010-12-31 Thread kfj
On 31 Dez., 01:59, Bruno Postle br...@postle.net wrote: Hugin is also the de-facto panorama stitcher on Linux.  If Hugin was purely for experts then an Open Source stitcher for holiday photos would need to be created - This would have to have practically all the functionality of Hugin

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2010-12-31 Thread john doe
I suddenly had a vision reading brunos comment, and using google... This could be something interesting, im refering to using the analogy to apply it to Hugin.. People mostly use google as their favorite web searcher because when you type google you are greated with the google site and the web

[hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2010-12-27 Thread kfj
On 27 Dez., 01:07, Bruno Postle brunopos...@googlemail.com wrote: Hugin doesn't have a usable way to share lens and camera information between users, you basically have to recalculate this every time you create a project. There is the lens.ini file, but maybe it needs a bit of TLC When

[hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2010-12-26 Thread Bruno Postle
On 26 December 2010 23:09, Bruno Postle brunopos...@googlemail.com wrote: This post by Peter Sikking is a good read and links to further information on both the GIMP and Krita processes: http://blog.mmiworks.net/2010/03/working-on-vision-with.html The basic approach that we should be taking

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

2010-12-26 Thread john doe
Why not make Hugin a panorama stitcher and HDR creation tool??PTGUI offers this...We have Luminance to take the HDR tonemapping capabilities from.. On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Bruno Postle brunopos...@googlemail.comwrote: On 26 December 2010 23:09, Bruno Postle brunopos...@googlemail.com