[hugin-ptx] Re: aligning stacks and combining them?

2011-10-04 Thread Karmadillo
Re: Hugin GUI for novices Over the last 4 years I've taken the journey from novice to producing a number of spherical HDR panoramas successfully. For the complete novice, hugin isn't too hard to learn, but there are some confusing options on the stitch panel. The learning experience taught me a

[hugin-ptx] Re: aligning stacks and combining them?

2011-10-01 Thread JPW
On Sep 30, 1:59 am, kfj _...@yahoo.com wrote: . . . Hugin started out as a GUI from which to operate a bunch of command line tools. A lot of this heritage is still apparent, and keeping the components separate also has certain advantages, i.e. each can evolve by itself and be used individually

[hugin-ptx] Re: aligning stacks and combining them?

2011-09-30 Thread kfj
On 29 Sep., 22:18, JPW johnpwatk...@gmail.com wrote: Ooops... my fault. I did mean you should set exposure sigma to 50, not exposure mu. I gave you a mixed message: OK. Appreciate the correction. I had deduced this was your intent after your response when I reread your original post and

[hugin-ptx] Re: aligning stacks and combining them?

2011-09-29 Thread kfj
On 28 Sep., 19:21, JPW johnpwatk...@gmail.com wrote: Easy, Kay. Please assume the best of me, as I do of you. And remember, as I have told you, I am a totally naive user of any but the most basic feature of Hugin, PanoTools and command line programs in general. Ooops... my fault. I did mean

[hugin-ptx] Re: aligning stacks and combining them?

2011-09-29 Thread JPW
On Sep 29, 10:34 am, kfj _...@yahoo.com wrote: On 28 Sep., 19:21, JPW johnpwatk...@gmail.com wrote: Easy, Kay. Please assume the best of me, as I do of you. And remember, as I have told you, I am a totally naive user of any but the most basic feature of Hugin, PanoTools and command line

[hugin-ptx] Re: aligning stacks and combining them?

2011-09-29 Thread JPW
BTW, This is a very nice explanation. Thanks. On Sep 29, 10:34 am, kfj _...@yahoo.com wrote: Let me explain: enfuse looks at all pixels in all images in turn. For every pixel, it calculates it's 'quality' by a certain criterion. When taking well-exposedness as criterion, how can

[hugin-ptx] Re: aligning stacks and combining them?

2011-09-29 Thread JPW
Yup Screenshots, diagrams, examples and the like. Everybody has different learning preferences. On Sep 28, 12:57 am, Gnome Nomad gnomeno...@gmail.com wrote: JPW wrote: Thanks Kay, as Bruno has pointed out, if all you want is the remapped images and not the fused stack, you have to save

[hugin-ptx] Re: aligning stacks and combining them?

2011-09-28 Thread kfj
On 28 Sep., 03:00, JPW johnpwatk...@gmail.com wrote: Then I ran the 5 jpegs through enfuse with without the options you suggested, which I discovered should be: --saturation-weight=0 --exposure-mu=.5 so you didn't run it with the parameters I suggested. I proposed you set exposure sigma

[hugin-ptx] Re: aligning stacks and combining them?

2011-09-28 Thread JPW
On Sep 28, 6:59 am, kfj _...@yahoo.com wrote: On 28 Sep., 03:00, JPW johnpwatk...@gmail.com wrote: Then I ran the 5 jpegs through enfuse with without the options you suggested, which I discovered should be: --saturation-weight=0 --exposure-mu=.5 so you didn't run it with the

[hugin-ptx] Re: aligning stacks and combining them?

2011-09-27 Thread kfj
On 26 Sep., 22:12, JPW johnpwatk...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, kfj. you're welcome. I have never checked *only* the 'Exposure fused from stacks' box before (I always also checked 'exposure corrected, low dynamic range' (as I was assuming this allows me to save the original remapped images.)

[hugin-ptx] Re: aligning stacks and combining them?

2011-09-27 Thread JPW
Thanks Kay, as Bruno has pointed out, if all you want is the remapped images and not the fused stack, you have to save individual images and fuse them with some other process. If the images all constitute one stack, do as I proposed. See: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Stitcher_tab Yes I've

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: aligning stacks and combining them?

2011-09-27 Thread Bruno Postle
On Tue 27-Sep-2011 at 09:06 -0700, JPW wrote: Part of the problem is that concepts like exposure fusion, optimisation or HDR merging just can't be made intuitive. That's true. And it probably doesn't have to be intuitive, although if it can be made appropriately transparent and accessible

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: aligning stacks and combining them?

2011-09-27 Thread Bruno Postle
On Tue 27-Sep-2011 at 10:07 -0700, JPW wrote: --saturation-weight=0 --exposure-mu=50 So this is a whole other area I have not yet waded into because I really don't know how to use the flags/switches (whatever they call them.) To do what you recommend (this BTW is an example of how esoteric

[hugin-ptx] Re: aligning stacks and combining them?

2011-09-27 Thread JPW
Yes, you do that.  It doesn't seem like we will have a GUI for enblend/enfuse parameters, so it would be nice to have some typical recipes in the manual page for the Stitcher tab. The Hugin manual is a subset of pages extracted from the panotools wiki, anyone can

[hugin-ptx] Re: aligning stacks and combining them?

2011-09-27 Thread JPW
On Sep 27, 2:27 am, kfj _...@yahoo.com wrote: I have a hunch that for your particular purpose you may fare better if you increase enfuse's exposure sigma, since your not aiming at well- exposedness but simply want to average the shots to remove noise. The default value is .25 (I think), so if

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: aligning stacks and combining them?

2011-09-27 Thread Gnome Nomad
JPW wrote: Thanks Kay, as Bruno has pointed out, if all you want is the remapped images and not the fused stack, you have to save individual images and fuse them with some other process. If the images all constitute one stack, do as I proposed. See:

[hugin-ptx] Re: aligning stacks and combining them?

2011-09-26 Thread kfj
On 26 Sep., 07:13, JPW johnpwatk...@gmail.com wrote: What I am unable to do is to get the images to merge or average (what I assume the superseded PTaverage command in PanoTools was for.) Have you set the output to 'exposure fusion from stacks' in the stitcher tab? Kay -- You received

[hugin-ptx] Re: aligning stacks and combining them?

2011-09-26 Thread JPW
Thanks, kfj. I have never checked *only* the 'Exposure fused from stacks' box before (I always also checked 'exposure corrected, low dynamic range' (as I was assuming this allows me to save the original remapped images.) When I check both (as I had been) I get the error. Error during stitching

[hugin-ptx] Re: aligning stacks and combining them?

2011-09-26 Thread JPW
So anyway, thanks, Kay. And BTW, The fused image is better. But I think I'll need to try it with higher numbers of images. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: aligning stacks and combining them?

2011-09-26 Thread Bruno Postle
On Mon 26-Sep-2011 at 13:12 -0700, JPW wrote: Thanks, kfj. I have never checked *only* the 'Exposure fused from stacks' box before (I always also checked 'exposure corrected, low dynamic range' (as I was assuming this allows me to save the original remapped images.) The setting for saving