Re: [IAEP] [Systems] wiki design

2010-03-13 Thread Josh Williams
On 3/13/10 1:56 PM, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 01:36:44PM -0700, Josh Williams wrote: I'm in the camp that it's better to set a maximum width because I think it's harder to read long strings of text. If you really want to do this (I still wouldn't like it), please at least bas

Re: [IAEP] [Systems] wiki design

2010-03-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 13:36 -0700, Josh Williams wrote: > That's true, you can always resize the window. I'm in the camp that it's > better to set a maximum width because I think it's harder to read long > strings of text. Also I don't enjoy resizing the window just for sites > that do this. Any

[IAEP] Coming to Paraguay?

2010-03-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Continuing our earlier irc conversation on iaep@: I need an updated version of Scratch for the XO... the current version has issues with sound thanks for the report! You are in Paraguay? Indeed! I'll be working on field until August to bridge Sugar Labs with one of the best deployments out th

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread forster
I have been unable to install Bernie's OS67 or Steven Parrish's os12, Bernie and I have been discussing this off list. If anybody has the same problem please let us know. Detailed instructions on the installation process are at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Clean-install_procedure#Development_builds

Re: [IAEP] [Systems] wiki design

2010-03-13 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 01:36:44PM -0700, Josh Williams wrote: I'm in the camp that it's better to set a maximum width because I think it's harder to read long strings of text. If you really want to do this (I still wouldn't like it), please at least base it on font size (em). Using pixel sizes

Re: [IAEP] [Systems] wiki design

2010-03-13 Thread Josh Williams
On 3/13/10 5:33 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 19:00 -0700, Josh Williams wrote: > > >> The content pane is set to a max width of 1020px and is fluid at smaller >> widths. You're suggesting it should be wider right? Could you attach a >> screen shot for both problems? >>

Re: [IAEP] wiki design

2010-03-13 Thread Josh Williams
On 3/11/10 7:05 PM, Frederick Grose wrote: On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 12:03 PM, josh williams > wrote: From what I could gather, Bernie was just making suggestions for what a site wide navigation could look like. I actually like Bernie's idea of making it mo

Re: [IAEP] wiki design

2010-03-13 Thread Josh Williams
On 3/13/10 9:53 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 11:27 -0500, Frederick Grose wrote: > >> If we are going to make significant changes to the wiki skin, it would >> probably serve us to base those on the pending default MediaWiki >> software and skin. >> >> >> MediaWiki 1.16 b

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Forgot to answer a paragraph: On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 12:07 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > > If you ask me: our recent F11-XO1 builds have reached equal or better > > quality than build 801, provided you disable automatic power management

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 13:26 -0500, Gerald Ardito wrote: > > Where can I download this image? I've uploaded one of our builds here: http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/py-xo1/ It's slightly newer than the version we've been installing on children's laptops, and has been lightly tested. If

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Gerald Ardito
Bernie, Where can I download this image? Thanks. Gerald On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 08:33 -0500, Gerald Ardito wrote: > > > By the way, how do you upgrade the XOs (we have XO-1s) to .84? This is > > a very big deal for us. > > We use a local

[IAEP] What is happening at RIT.

2010-03-13 Thread dfarning
An interesting read. http://opensource.com/education/10/3/course-co-op-lifecycle-openinnovationrit It is an outstanding case study about how to set up Sugar/OLPC/Open source project at your local university.  One of the most important things I have learned from working with RIT is downplaying

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 12:07 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > > If you ask me: our recent F11-XO1 builds have reached equal or better > > quality than build 801, provided you disable automatic power management. > > Are all activities worki

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > If you ask me: our recent F11-XO1 builds have reached equal or better > quality than build 801, provided you disable automatic power management. Are all activities working, including collaboration? In Gnome, can you actually use FF? Came

[IAEP] OLPC/Sugar Radio - Paraguay Deployment Stories Live - Sunday Open Call 4PM Boston Time

2010-03-13 Thread Holt
Meet the guy volunteering his life for OLPC/Sugar on 4 different continents, almost 4 years later. Meet retired R&D director, founder, VP, CTO of embedded technologies at http://codewiz.org/wiki/DevelerCompany Meet Sugar Labs' lead global sysadmin and Harvard School of Education part-time studen

Re: [IAEP] wiki design

2010-03-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 11:27 -0500, Frederick Grose wrote: > If we are going to make significant changes to the wiki skin, it would > probably serve us to base those on the pending default MediaWiki > software and skin. > > > MediaWiki 1.16 beta has been > announced, > http://lists.wikimedia.org/

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 10:46 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > > On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 08:33 -0500, Gerald Ardito wrote: > > > >> By the way, how do you upgrade the XOs (we have XO-1s) to .84? This is > >> a very big deal for us. > > > > We u

Re: [IAEP] wiki design

2010-03-13 Thread Frederick Grose
If we are going to make significant changes to the wiki skin, it would probably serve us to base those on the pending default MediaWiki software and skin. MediaWiki 1.16 beta has been announced, http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-announce/2010-March/89.html, with new features suppo

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 08:33 -0500, Gerald Ardito wrote: > >> By the way, how do you upgrade the XOs (we have XO-1s) to .84? This is >> a very big deal for us. > > We use a local variant of the F11-XO1 images by Stephen Parrish, signed > wi

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Frederick Grose
See http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/535#comment:5, Expose Journal, Home, Group, Neighborhood, & Frame Sources, where it's suggested that we extend the 'Show Source' facility to more of Sugar. Learners like to exercise and demonstrate their knowledge by customizing or changing their environments.

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 08:33 -0500, Gerald Ardito wrote: > By the way, how do you upgrade the XOs (we have XO-1s) to .84? This is > a very big deal for us. We use a local variant of the F11-XO1 images by Stephen Parrish, signed with the deployment keys. The procedure for each laptop is: (1) back

Re: [IAEP] [Systems] wiki design

2010-03-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 09:33 -0300, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 19:00 -0700, Josh Williams wrote: > > > The content pane is set to a max width of 1020px and is fluid at smaller > > widths. You're suggesting it should be wider right? Could you attach a > > screen shot for both

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 13:35 +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > So +1 to look customization. E.g., why not allow to change the > gray frame color? In Etoys you can at least change the toolbar > color (not permanently though, I should fix that). Even if it > enrages our latte-drinking black-wearing de

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 13.03.2010, at 11:56, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > > I've spent three days in Caacupè, observing how the new F11-XO1 build is > doing among our young user base. It's a great success, but for the wrong > reason: > > > http://codewiz.org/wiki/blog/2010/03#mon-mar-8--children-want-sugar-084-for-th

Re: [IAEP] [Systems] wiki design

2010-03-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 19:00 -0700, Josh Williams wrote: > The content pane is set to a max width of 1020px and is fluid at smaller > widths. You're suggesting it should be wider right? Could you attach a > screen shot for both problems? Here we go: http://wiki-devel.sugarlabs.org/go/Welcome_t

[IAEP] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
I've spent three days in Caacupè, observing how the new F11-XO1 build is doing among our young user base. It's a great success, but for the wrong reason: http://codewiz.org/wiki/blog/2010/03#mon-mar-8--children-want-sugar-084-for-the-wrong-reasons If we want a chance to improve our platform, I