On Wed, 16 Sep 2009, Daniel Drake wrote:
I wonder, though, if the current SoaS is going to be the primary
LiveUSB distribution of Sugar supported by upstream (known as SoaS).
I think Sugar should treat all downstreams equally, so there would be no
primary distro. But users/deployments may
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009, Martin Dengler wrote:
* Special Interest Group
+ Can be created by anyone
+ One leader (i.e. the person who requests the mailing list)
+ No governance expected or required
+ No accountability in particular
+ Can apply for Project status as it grows
* Project
At a conference earlier this month in Philadelphia, I met a professor by
the name of Lori Pollock. She's been encouraging her kids to write Sugar
activities, and she also asked me if I knew anyone in Peru who might be
open to sponsoring a work abroad program for those of her students who are
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
2009/6/15 Maria Droujkova droujk...@gmail.com:
David,
For frameworks, you may want to look at achievement systems and
reputation systems (e.g. karma on slashdot). I just helped a
colleague with his grant proposal about adding achievement systems to
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
Hi
Why don't you ask some children what colors they would like? Offer a number
of choices in both warm colors and cool colors and combos.
BTW...dumb question coming...what does a.sl.o mean? I googled it and all I
got was SugarLabs and something
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
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We're getting close to release of 0.84, and we can still use some focused
testing.
Testing is a lot more fun, and effective, when you do it with friends.
(Collaboration testing absolutely requires it.) So if you have time,
*please* join us on Monday and Tuesday. The developers will all show
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009, Edward Cherlin wrote:
Is anybody going to PyCon? We have booth space and could use coders
and mentors for the sprints.
I will be there.
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On Tue, 10 Feb 2009, Simon Schampijer wrote:
Hi,
I would like us to be present at LinuxTag (24-27 June 2009) [1]. The call for
papers did end the 8th of February [2] - but we could try to contact the
organizers directly (I should have some contacts from last year) and see if
we could do
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009, Morgan Collett wrote:
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 14:19, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 13:11, David Van Assche dvanass...@gmail.com wrote:
So... to log or not to log, that is the question ?
What if everybody that has ever posted in a sugar
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009, Bill Kerr wrote:
http://sugarlabs.org/go/User:Gdk/4th_Grade_Maths
http://gregdek.livejournal.com/45211.html
I think what is missing in the approach outlined by Greg here (and in
curriculum frameworks in general) is no real consideration of the deep
structure of maths
Will this be a continuing weekly meeting?
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On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Wade Brainerd wrote:
Hi everyone,
Please join us for the first Sugar Labs ActivityTeam IRC meeting
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Caroline Meeks wrote:
Hi,
If you read this and said to yourself. Well yes this is important, but I'm
a geek and I don't do marketing please take a minute and think about the
marketing, advertising and press related people at your work and social
circles. Think if there
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, Walter Bender wrote:
I think it is a very good idea. As Sugar deployments spread, there
will be the need for support of all sorts and having a list resources
people can draw upon would be very useful. One question: do we vet
these posting in any way? I think it would be
http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/GettingInvolved
Here's what I did:
1. Linked to each team.
2. Made sure that the Mission statements were all cleaned up and
consistent, and then included them in this page.
3. Added a sentence for each team explaining what the most pressing need
is right
Elevator pitch fans, have a look at the following document:
http://sugarlabs.org/go/MarketingTeam/ElevatorPitch
Please, PLEASE add your own. Be sure to follow the rules on the page. We
want lots of good pitches to choose from. I've added one so far, and I
will add others as I think of
Hello all. Dumb user question: when trying to register Sugar in Fedora
10, I get the following error:
1228079574.024438 ERROR root: Registration: Cannot obtain data needed to
register.
Any hints? What should happen here?
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http://www.netcaucus.org/events/2009/kickoff/demonstrate.shtml
If we want to get in front of the United States government and talk the
Sugar talk, this is the time.
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Walter Bender wrote:
I think the idea of a roadmap (with project schedules) within each
team would address much of this need.
Agreed.
Project management is a pain in the ass, and we don't always have the
resources to have dedicated and proper project management -- which
On Sun, 23 Nov 2008, Luke Faraone wrote:
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:22, Jameson Chema Quinn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
+1
embedding
mibbit or cgiirc in our wiki?
I'll work on that in [[IRC]], as well as explaining all the different
channels. (this will have some duplication from
On Sun, 23 Nov 2008, Luke Faraone wrote:
All,
In order to facilitate non-developer use, I'd like to propose the
addition of the following:
* #sugar-users - a channel for non-development how do I use this
questions, akin to #olpc-help
* a sugar-users mailing list for the same
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
The more typical setup would be #sugar for user questions and
#sugar-devel as refuge for developers.
Possibly.
Frankly, if you can get an IRC client running reliably from one of the web
pages, we can change our IRC channels after the fact at
You don't? Why not? The world needs to hear your voice.
You do? Great! You should be aggregated on the Sugar Labs Planet!
Just send an email to planetmaster at sugarlabs dot org with the URL of
your blog feed. If you're unsure, just ask the planetmaster.
Currently, there are only about a
Hello all. Reposting my blog entry from the other day. If you care about
marketing, please read it, and then respond to my Request For Meeting,
below. :)
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Beckstrom make the compelling case that, in large
Brilliant, Ed!
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Edward Cherlin wrote:
I just now sent this message on the US Chess Federation Web site,
http://www.uschess.org/. Scholastic Chess includes all of the USCF
activities in schools: teaching, clubs, tournaments, publications...
One Laptop Per Child
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
Ciao,
who is going to write reports of the Sugarcamp for the media?
Greg, you are the lead of the Marketing team, so you'd be my natural
pick if you have the time.
Christoph, Bryan, I guess OLPC News be interested too? Maybe also LWN
and
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008, Christoph Derndorfer wrote:
I'd be more than happy to see the $100 I paypal'd go towards either
covering travel expenses of a SugarCamp participant or be spent for
beers at CBC. ;-)
Since $100 is only 10 Euros, what does Christoph care what happens to it?
:)
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So here I see a lot of attendees and proposed talks:
http://www.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugarcamp
...but do we have a schedule yet? And if not, who's working on it, and
when will we have it?
Or is it somewhere that I can't see it? :)
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2008, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
So here I see a lot of attendees and proposed talks:
http://www.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugarcamp
...but do we have a schedule yet? And if not, who's working on it, and
when will we have it?
It has been pointed out to me that the schedule is here
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
-1.
sugarlabs and olpc have the same mission. i think it's entirely
appropriate to have one day devoted to technical issues, with the
participation of olpc employees (who are also sugarlabs members --
even board members). we have monday,
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Caroline Meeks wrote:
World wide there are many programmers paid to create and maintain
activities with strong pedagogical elements intended solely for kids.
Many of these activities are distributed without cost and some are open
source. Some that I'm familiar with are
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Caroline Meeks wrote:
I'd like to help. Are you around Cambridge next week?
Absolutely. We're gonna have a lot to talk about. :)
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On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hello all. I'd like to have a formal kick-off
Thanks for the detailed analysis, Morgan. Much appreciated.
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Morgan Collett wrote:
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 18:02, Greg Dekoenigsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Bill Kerr wrote:
Meaning what, exactly? Can you be more specific?
Well, it's
BRILLIANT. Well done, David.
This is a Big Deal.
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2008, David Farning wrote:
After lingering purgatory, aka Mozilla's Bugzilla, for the last couple
of months, the first set of patches to allow amo to serve Sugar
activities has made it into the upstream tree:-/
Looks
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Greg Smith wrote:
Hi All,
On the question of Open Source to develop applications which are not
necessarily used by the people who write the code. That is a challenge
which I think we should address directly.
Greg D's strategy (programmers code for themselves then we re
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Bill Kerr wrote:
Problems:
* not enough activities
This will become better over time. Since we need to package activities
for Fedora and they need to be reviewed, there can be a bit of a lag. The
activities should be coming online continually.
* collaboration
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
Cutting this important part out of another discussion ...
On 10.11.2008, at 20:49, Jecel Assumpcao Jr wrote:
Of course, this all supposes the open source model. If someone gets
paid
to do a Python Etoys or a GNU Smalltalk one then I wouldn't be
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Gavin Romig-Koch wrote:
I wasn't aware of Debian's policy requirement to handle it on their
own. Greg, does Fedora have a similar policy? I am perfectly capable
of finding and fixing issues if necessary, but I would not want to try
to second guess the developers of
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
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On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 10:54:38PM +1100, Costello, Rob R wrote:
From outside this all looks as though it might suffer from being a
little too pedantic in adhering to definitional terms
It feels as
As the nominal leader of the Sugar Labs Events Committee, I've been a bit
of a laggard, so I'm getting ready to step it up a bit. We do have an
events calendar here:
http://sugarlabs.org/go/Community#Events
I've got some questions. Anyone who is interested, please feel free to
answer or
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008, Edward Cherlin wrote:
What sorts of events would people like to see? SCALE (Southern
California Linux Expo)? Linux World Expo/Open Source Expo? PyCon?
Education conferences? Bioneers? Solfest? ICT4D? Microfinance?
embedded systems? or should we consider splitting the
OK, so this is the simplest possible proposal, but it's a start:
http://sugarlabs.org/go/User:Gdk/Events
This is the proposed Event summary page. Note: events go on this page
*if and only if* someone in the broader Sugar community has committed to
being the organizer. Whether that's Walter,
I have:
* A livecd for Fedora 10 devel (rawhide) that allows a Sugar 0.82 boot
option via GDM. We're missing activites, but as those make their way into
rawhide for F10, we will close these gaps quickly.
* A kickstart file that can be used by any Fedora user to generate such an
image
/apps/gnome-screensaver/lock_enabled false /dev/null
# set up timed auto-login for after 60 seconds
cat /etc/gdm/custom.conf FOE
[daemon]
TimedLoginEnable=true
TimedLogin=fedora
TimedLoginDelay=60
FOE
EOF
%end
=
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Bryan Kearney wrote:
Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
I
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, David Farning wrote:
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Greg Dekoenigsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I have:
* A livecd for Fedora 10 devel (rawhide) that allows a Sugar
0.82 boot option via GDM. We're missing activites, but as
those make their way
The goal is to have the benefits of the Executive Director while also
mitigating risk. Comments inline.
On Sun, 21 Sep 2008, David Farning wrote:
Executive Director
The decision to have an Executive Director boils down to one question,
'Do the benefits of having a single point of control
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, Carol Lerche wrote:
I'd like to introduce you to the revolutionary idea of a website. It
is so much more functional than this wiki thing olpc is so enamoured
of. On a website there is a homepage with important links to
things like help and contact us and latest news.
If you have an XO, Albert, you can start testing Fedora on the XO right
away. We could use the help.
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On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why should we rally around Sugar? Microsoft is getting a
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, luis ACEVEDO wrote:
Hello:
My name is Luis Acevedo, live in Santiago, Chile. I participate
actively in the mailing list OLPC-Sur and is closely monitoring the
mailing list Sugar Labs. Yesterday in the Sur- List we had a report
about a required feature for Turtle
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Jim Gettys wrote:
Fedora is still a Red Hat trademark.
That leaves Red Hat at least somewhat legally responsible.
The CLA has caused serious heartburn for some (e.g. Bert Freudenburg)
and I've been on his side in that (because the issues he sees could have
applied to
I don't know whether the acronym for Sugar Labs Oversight Board has really
sunk into people's brains yet -- so when I call it the SLOB in public,
please don't be angry. :)
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On Mon, 8 Sep 2008, Walter Bender wrote:
It may be obvious, but we should explicitly state that members can
terminate their own membership unilaterally at any time.
Regarding what constitutes a contribution, here is the language we had
been using:
Any significant and sustained contributor
On Mon, 4 Aug 2008, David Farning wrote:
I would like to apologize for my absence over the last weeks. I have
been trying to determine if Sugar is a viable project and if Sugar Labs
is a viable organization.
For the weeks prior to my break, I have been working on community
outreach.
On Tue, 5 Aug 2008, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
2. Lack of vision. The second reason organizations hesitate to become
involved with Sugar Labs is our lack of vision. There is a perception
that Sugar development has stalled.
This surprises me a lot. I can't think of an open source project
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