Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Future of Zero Sugar

2009-12-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 06:09, Daniel Drake wrote: > On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 06:07 +, Aleksey Lim wrote: >> * as a 3rd party developer, I don't see such teachers requests listed >>   somewhere on wiki, that let me see what can I do and peek most >>   interesting/suitable-for-my-skils/etc task >

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Future of Zero Sugar

2009-12-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 20:31, Bryan Berry wrote: > I strongly agree w/ tomeu on this. > Making Sugar easier to contribute to isn't anywhere near the top of the list > of requested features by our kids and teachers in Nepal. > The far and away most requested feature by teachers in Nepal is a mecha

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Future of Zero Sugar

2009-12-15 Thread Michael Stone
Aleksey, I fully support your initiative to make Sugar's handling of activities Work As Designed and I look forward to testing both your upcoming blob-free activities, your PackageKit integration, and your 0install Sugar packaging in coming weeks. Keep pushing. - Bryan, > Making Sugar

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Future of Zero Sugar

2009-12-15 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 02:01:18PM +, Gary C Martin wrote: > On 15 Dec 2009, at 13:36, Aleksey Lim wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:52:56AM -0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > >> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 04:07, Aleksey Lim wrote: > >>> * implementing Zero Sugar initiative, in my mind, is provi

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Future of Zero Sugar

2009-12-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:19, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > On 15.12.2009, at 15:09, Daniel Drake wrote: >> >> I believe there are still various well-known 0.86 regressions (over >> 0.84). For example, Record not working. These regressions are going to >> be a huge headache to anyone who tries to upg

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Future of Zero Sugar

2009-12-15 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 15.12.2009, at 15:09, Daniel Drake wrote: > > I believe there are still various well-known 0.86 regressions (over > 0.84). For example, Record not working. These regressions are going to > be a huge headache to anyone who tries to upgrade, perhaps you could > squash a few of those. Speaking of

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Future of Zero Sugar

2009-12-15 Thread Daniel Drake
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 06:07 +, Aleksey Lim wrote: > * as a 3rd party developer, I don't see such teachers requests listed > somewhere on wiki, that let me see what can I do and peek most > interesting/suitable-for-my-skils/etc task There's enough going around that you could work on which w

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Future of Zero Sugar

2009-12-15 Thread Gary C Martin
On 15 Dec 2009, at 13:36, Aleksey Lim wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:52:56AM -0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 04:07, Aleksey Lim wrote: >>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:16:02AM +0545, Bryan Berry wrote: I strongly agree w/ tomeu on this. Making Sugar easier

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Future of Zero Sugar

2009-12-15 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:52:56AM -0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 04:07, Aleksey Lim wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:16:02AM +0545, Bryan Berry wrote: > >> I strongly agree w/ tomeu on this. > >> > >> Making Sugar easier to contribute to isn't anywhere near the top of t

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Future of Zero Sugar

2009-12-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 04:07, Aleksey Lim wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:16:02AM +0545, Bryan Berry wrote: >> I strongly agree w/ tomeu on this. >> >> Making Sugar easier to contribute to isn't anywhere near the top of the list >> of requested features by our kids and teachers in Nepal. >> >

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Future of Zero Sugar

2009-12-14 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:16:02AM +0545, Bryan Berry wrote: > I strongly agree w/ tomeu on this. > > Making Sugar easier to contribute to isn't anywhere near the top of the list > of requested features by our kids and teachers in Nepal. > > The far and away most requested feature by teachers in

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Future of Zero Sugar

2009-12-14 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 07:01:26PM -0500, Sebastian Silva wrote: > I for one would love to learn a new way to hack on my sugar and easily share > patches. > If we can do better than jhbuild does (user experience wise), I would love > it! yeah, some day we can provide 0install glucose e.g. for test

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Future of Zero Sugar

2009-12-14 Thread Sebastian Silva
I for one would love to learn a new way to hack on my sugar and easily share patches. If we can do better than jhbuild does (user experience wise), I would love it! Icarito 2009/12/14 Tomeu Vizoso > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 17:01, Aleksey Lim wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 04:19:51PM -0200,

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Future of Zero Sugar

2009-12-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 17:01, Aleksey Lim wrote: > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 04:19:51PM -0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:25, Benjamin M. Schwartz >> wrote: >> > Aleksey Lim wrote: >> >> So, I have >> >> strong intension to switching development focus from core team, >> >> w

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Future of Zero Sugar

2009-12-14 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 04:19:51PM -0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:25, Benjamin M. Schwartz > wrote: > > Aleksey Lim wrote: > >> So, I have > >> strong intension to switching development focus from core team, > >> which develops sucrose - glucose(core) and fructose(some cor

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Future of Zero Sugar

2009-12-14 Thread Gerald Ardito
Tomeu, I think your point is well taken. As a teacher and project manager for a deployment of about 150 XOs and SOAS, I find the students and teachers really interested in making stuff with their devices and software (we are in the middle of some cool EToys science projects at the moment.). But I

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Future of Zero Sugar

2009-12-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:25, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > Aleksey Lim wrote: >> So, I have >> strong intension to switching development focus from core team, >> which develops sucrose - glucose(core) and fructose(some core >> activities) to wide range of developers/doers thus some kind of >> de

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Future of Zero Sugar

2009-12-14 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Aleksey Lim wrote: > So, I have > strong intension to switching development focus from core team, > which develops sucrose - glucose(core) and fructose(some core > activities) to wide range of developers/doers thus some kind of > decentralization of development process. I agree. I think this has b