Re: [IAEP] sugar numbers

2015-06-10 Thread Dan Tenason
. Caryl -- From: dan.tena...@mail.ru To: cbige...@hotmail.com CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re[2]: [IAEP] sugar numbers Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 06:04:29 +0300 Wednesday, June 3, 2015 5:24 PM -06:00 from Caryl Bigenho cbige

Re: [IAEP] sugar numbers

2015-06-05 Thread Dan Tenason
Wednesday, June 3, 2015 5:24 PM -06:00 from Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com: Criticism !=  Critical Thinking.  This whole discussion is pointless! You are arguing about the current use of laptops that are as much as 8 years old. Yes, many of them, maybe even most of them, are still

Re: [IAEP] sugar numbers

2015-06-05 Thread Caryl Bigenho
everywhere, I suggest that you see if you can find yourself a niche where you can help expand and perfect Sugarizer. You can get more information here: http://sugarizer.org Caryl From: dan.tena...@mail.ru To: cbige...@hotmail.com CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re[2]: [IAEP] sugar numbers

Re: [IAEP] sugar numbers

2015-06-03 Thread Caryl Bigenho
in the company. I heard an interesting piece about trolling on NPR today. Hummm….. Caryl P.S. If you aren't familiar with C, != represents is not equal to. From: dan.tena...@mail.ru To: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 21:46:17 +0300 Subject: Re: [IAEP] sugar numbers Monday, June 1, 2015 9

Re: [IAEP] sugar numbers

2015-06-03 Thread Dan Tenason
Monday, June 1, 2015 9:50 PM -04:00 from Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org: On 05/27/2015 03:20 PM, Dan Tenason wrote: This change does not require a complete rewrite of the site. Just a simple deletion of an incorrect, and often quoted, statement on the landing page. You initially stated

Re: [IAEP] sugar numbers

2015-06-01 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On 05/27/2015 03:20 PM, Dan Tenason wrote: This change does not require a complete rewrite of the site. Just a simple deletion of an incorrect, and often quoted, statement on the landing page. You initially stated that you were following OLPC as part of a research paper on open source

Re: [IAEP] sugar numbers

2015-06-01 Thread Caryl Bigenho
+1 To: dan.tena...@mail.ru; godi...@sugarlabs.org From: ber...@codewiz.org Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 21:50:51 -0400 CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [IAEP] sugar numbers On 05/27/2015 03:20 PM, Dan Tenason wrote: This change does not require a complete rewrite of the site. Just

Re: [IAEP] sugar numbers

2015-05-27 Thread Dan Tenason
Tuesday, May 26, 2015 11:39 AM -03:00 from Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org: On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Dan Tenason dan.tena...@mail.ru wrote: Dan - if you are sincerely interested in the numbers, why don't you write to the education ministries? In serious research, as in

Re: [IAEP] sugar numbers

2015-05-26 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Dan Tenason dan.tena...@mail.ru wrote: Dan - if you are sincerely interested in the numbers, why don't you write to the education ministries? In serious research, as in serious journalism, you need to consult official sources. Sean Daly (no e) I would

Re: [IAEP] sugar numbers

2015-05-25 Thread Dan Tenason
Dan - if you are sincerely interested in the numbers, why don't you write to the education ministries? In serious research, as in serious journalism, you need to consult official sources. Sean Daly (no e) I would like to thank everyone for their responses. They findings of Mr Holt, Ms

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Numbers

2015-05-16 Thread Adam Holt
On May 16, 2015 6:29 AM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: Dan - if you are sincerely interested in the numbers, why don't you write to the education ministries? In serious research, as in serious journalism, you need to consult official sources. Ground-truthing takes years but yes is

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Numbers

2015-05-16 Thread Adam Holt
On May 16, 2015 10:29 PM, Sora Edwards-Thro s...@unleashkids.org wrote: In Haiti, OLPC sent laptops to four towns: Kenscoff, Lascahobas, Thomazeau, and Jacmel. As far as I know, the OLPC nonprofits (OLPCF OLPCA) had little to do with selecting these four Haiti towns, and their in-country

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Numbers

2015-05-16 Thread Sean DALY
Dan - if you are sincerely interested in the numbers, why don't you write to the education ministries? In serious research, as in serious journalism, you need to consult official sources. Sean Daly (no e) On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 4:44 AM, Dan Tenason dan.tena...@mail.ru wrote: The Sugar Labs

[IAEP] Sugar Numbers

2015-05-15 Thread Dan Tenason
The Sugar Labs website is still stating  Sugar’s  Activities  are used every school day by nearly 3 million children. Mr Daley stated this number is based on Total number of XOs shipped as reported by OLPC + total number of copies of Sugar on a Stick downloaded.  laptop.org  states that about

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Numbers

2015-05-15 Thread Adam Holt
On May 15, 2015 10:44 PM, Dan Tenason dan.tena...@mail.ru wrote: The Sugar Labs website is still stating Sugar's Activities are used every school day by nearly 3 million children. Mr Daley stated this number is based on Total number of XOs shipped as reported by OLPC + total number of copies of

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Numbers

2015-04-17 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Dan, You was qualified as a troll because you said we should divide the 3M number by 10 and you assume we were deceiving. See the Wikipedia definition of troll: In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Numbers

2015-04-17 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Really? On January you wrote: I am following OLPC as part of a research paper on open source organizations. http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2015-January/017152.html Followed a thread with replies from different members of the community and you finished with: Thank you for the

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Numbers

2015-04-17 Thread Dan Tenason
I work as a researcher for a foundation which received a grant proposal for a laptop project. There were several issues which needed clarification. I suppose that can be seen as trolling. Thanks and good luck with you project. Friday, April 17, 2015 8:11 AM -03:00 from Gonzalo Odiard

[IAEP] Sugar Numbers

2015-04-16 Thread Dan Tenason
A few weeks ago I raised the question about how phrase three million daily users was calculated. The general line of thought in a thread on sugar-devel was we don't know but we think it is an optimistic figure based on the total number of laptops OLPC produced. Further analysis is hard and we