Re: [IAEP] Fwd: Language Learning Courseware

2009-05-05 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 03:01, Seth Woodworth s...@isforinsects.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Neal Scogin neal.sco...@sbcglobal.net Date: Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:36 PM Subject: [support-gang] Language Learning Courseware To: Laptop Support support-g...@laptop.org I

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] versus, not

2009-05-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 3:03 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Fair enough. I agree that *most* people on the list agree that there is not just one right way. And to use a metaphor that has been oft-spoken in the US news of late, Sugar Labs has to have a big tent. Sugar itself

Re: [IAEP] educational brew

2009-05-05 Thread Albert Cahalan
Costello, Rob R writes: most teachers that i know want to know that any 'innovation' 'addresses the curriculum' ... but this won't overturn the inertia in traditional curriculum content To a teacher, is curriculum the raw state/national standard or is it instead the content of the particular

Re: [IAEP] Fwd: [bytesforall_readers] Science education (India)

2009-05-05 Thread sankarshan
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: Now that India says it will buy 250,000 XOs, we need to involve education NGOs and others there. I haven't seen/read more details than available at http://www.olpcnews.com/countries/india/to_satish_jha_of_olpc_india.html

Re: [IAEP] educational brew

2009-05-05 Thread Maria Droujkova
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Bill Kerr billk...@gmail.com wrote: The other thing I should have said about rob's post but didn't was that I pretty much agree with all of it as a description of the reality we face, ie. my experiences of being an innovative teacher are similar enough to what

[IAEP] Introduction

2009-05-05 Thread Basil Mohamed Gohar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello everyone! /(apologies for more-or-less plagiarizing my fourthgrademaths mailing list introduction)/ My name is Basil Mohamed Gohar, and I'm an avid Fedora free-software user. I am also very interested in free-as-in-freedom educational

Re: [IAEP] [Grassroots-l] OLPC in Kindergarten

2009-05-05 Thread Caroline Meeks
Hi Maria, Are you in touch with the 4th grade math project out of RIT? Thanks! Caroline On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Maria Droujkova droujk...@gmail.comwrote: My company has developed some software prototypes for early algebra that could work for 4-6 year olds. I would be interested in

Re: [IAEP] educational brew

2009-05-05 Thread Kathy Pusztavari
I think that is a great point, Maria. The homeschool community, especially in the US (that I know of), are great at field testing things. They are a resource that should not be overlooked as they are able to make use of new innovation quicker and are unable to afford to be as picky. They tend

Re: [IAEP] educational brew

2009-05-05 Thread Kathy Pusztavari
You could set up '4th grade math for Massachusetts' as a list of things to master. It's quite similar to setting up a Makefile with a target that exists purely to have a list of prerequisites. Albert - that is exactly what I was referring to. A set of curriculum to get you started but a good

Re: [IAEP] versus, not

2009-05-05 Thread Kathy Pusztavari
Bill, there is a difference between direct instruction and Direct Instruction. The latter (big D big I) is usually based on SRA's products and outlined in the Direct Instruction Rubric. Direct instruction (little d little i) is usually a general set of guidelines teachers use to directly

Re: [IAEP] educational brew

2009-05-05 Thread Maria Droujkova
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Albert Cahalan acaha...@gmail.com wrote: To benefit from a given lesson, one must master any prerequisites. The good news is that as time goes on, people (slowly) develop ways to help kids acquire prerequisites within learning new topics. For example, you can

Re: [IAEP] Fwd: Language Learning Courseware

2009-05-05 Thread Carol Farlow Lerche
SourceForge.net: synphony » home http://synphony.wiki.sourceforge.net/ On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 03:01, Seth Woodworth s...@isforinsects.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Neal Scogin

Re: [IAEP] Library Activity

2009-05-05 Thread James Simmons
Aleksey, I read your Library document and the one linked to it on Unified Objects. This sounds like quite an ambitious project. I would agree with Tomeu that some kind of UI mockup would be a good idea. I've been programming for a living for over 30 years and reading your description I

Re: [IAEP] Library Activity

2009-05-05 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 10:14:06AM -0500, James Simmons wrote: Aleksey, I read your Library document and the one linked to it on Unified Objects. This sounds like quite an ambitious project. I would agree with Tomeu that some kind of UI mockup would be a good idea. I've been

[IAEP] NYSCATE - Nov 2009 in Rochester NY

2009-05-05 Thread Karlie Robinson
Good afternoon everyone. Charles Profitt has me thinking a lot about he New York State Association for Computers and Technologies in Education Trade show in Rochester NY, November 22-24, 2009. As Chas explains, if technology isn't pitched at NYSCATE, it won't even be on the radar for districts

[IAEP] Fwd: NYSCATE - Nov 2009 in Rochester NY

2009-05-05 Thread Sean DALY
cross-posting to Marketing -- Forwarded message -- From: Karlie Robinson karlie_robin...@webpath.net Date: Tue, May 5, 2009 at 6:38 PM Subject: [IAEP] NYSCATE - Nov 2009 in Rochester NY To: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Good afternoon everyone. Charles Profitt has me thinking a lot

Re: [IAEP] Library Activity

2009-05-05 Thread Carol Farlow Lerche
Sorry for posting the screenshot without text (I was reposting a compacted version of the original screenshot, which our list manager wisely refused to forward). My original post was: I have attached a screenshot of calibre. This is a very useful way to look at books, though I'm sure many

Re: [IAEP] Library Activity

2009-05-05 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 09:41:01AM -0700, Carol Farlow Lerche wrote: Sorry for posting the screenshot without text (I was reposting a compacted version of the original screenshot, which our list manager wisely refused to forward). My original post was: I have attached a screenshot of

Re: [IAEP] NYSCATE - Nov 2009 in Rochester NY

2009-05-05 Thread Caroline Meeks
Hi Karlie, Walter and I are doing a talk at a similar show MassCUE (computer using educators) Oct 28-29th. I think we are just signed up for a 1 hour talk. We will be doing 9 hours over 3 days of professional development using an existing computer lab and SoaS in August in Worchester, MA. If

Re: [IAEP] NYSCATE - Nov 2009 in Rochester NY

2009-05-05 Thread Karlie Robinson
We have a meeting tentatively scheduled for the afternoon of May 18. When we firm things up, I'll post a note at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Math4Team/Meetings At that point we'll have final projects from the RIT students and I should have more info on what's been made and/or what point

Re: [IAEP] Library Activity

2009-05-05 Thread Samuel Klein
The screenshots help the discussion a great deal. Thinking in terms of how you sort and change views is useful, since there are a few very different use cases that could all rely on what Aleksey is describing [local calibre, active filesharing, global persistent file hosting and bundle

Re: [IAEP] Library Activity

2009-05-05 Thread Edward Cherlin
Here is a screenshot from Goodreads.com of the beginning of my Economics collection. I have to go around the house and find the rest, put them on a physical shelf together (I recently added three new bookcases), and add them to my list. People occasionally ask me where to get a particular book, or

Re: [IAEP] Library Activity

2009-05-05 Thread James Simmons
All, The last few emails on the Library Activity suggest that people are looking at Library as a way of organizing their various Journal content just as much if not more than as a way to share said content. As far as organizing content goes, I like what Calibre does better than the tree view

Re: [IAEP] Library Activity

2009-05-05 Thread Carol Farlow Lerche
To the extent that Title, Author, etc. are simply labels for two tags that many ebook items have, and that one could establish others, it is a good generalization of calibre's useful but fixed view. A lot of programs (including the dreaded Windows) allow selection of which columns to display,

Re: [IAEP] Library Activity

2009-05-05 Thread Carol Farlow Lerche
Here is fisheye. On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche c...@msbit.com wrote: To the extent that Title, Author, etc. are simply labels for two tags that many ebook items have, and that one could establish others, it is a good generalization of calibre's useful but fixed view. A

Re: [IAEP] Library Activity

2009-05-05 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 02:33:30PM -0500, James Simmons wrote: All, The last few emails on the Library Activity suggest that people are looking at Library as a way of organizing their various Journal content just as much if not more than as a way to share said content. As far as

Re: [IAEP] School Report and request for help replicating some SoaS bugs.

2009-05-05 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 05.05.2009, at 20:00, Caroline Meeks wrote: On the mac's they seemed to boot fine from the CD+USB but there was some sort of problem with the screen. I've attached a pic, has anyone else seen it? Looks a lot like what I reported for the Mac mini:

Re: [IAEP] Library Activity

2009-05-05 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 12:46:56PM -0700, Carol Farlow Lerche wrote: To the extent that Title, Author, etc. are simply labels for two tags that many ebook items have, and that one could establish others, it is a good generalization of calibre's useful but fixed view. a great idea!.. Instead of

Re: [IAEP] Library Activity

2009-05-05 Thread James Simmons
Aleksey, It isn't clear to me what a cloud of tags is. Is there a familiar application that does something like this? I understand that users can tag things to suit themselves, but still I'd want to impose some kind of structure on the views. When I started visiting libraries they had card

Re: [IAEP] Library Activity

2009-05-05 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 04:12:39PM -0500, James Simmons wrote: Aleksey, It isn't clear to me what a cloud of tags is. Is there a familiar application that does something like this? Perhaps he means http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tag_cloud James Simmons Martin pgpVfrSC2AFqA.pgp

Re: [IAEP] Library Activity

2009-05-05 Thread Carol Farlow Lerche
Jim, children are great collectors. I just think it is wise to try interfaces with varying numbers of items before concluding that one or another mode is too complicated. If you'd like to try an interface that has tunable complexity, you might like to get a copy of the readerware trial. I can

Re: [IAEP] Library Activity

2009-05-05 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 04:12:39PM -0500, James Simmons wrote: Aleksey, It isn't clear to me what a cloud of tags is. Is there a familiar application that does something like this? thanks to Martin, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tag_cloud I understand that users can tag things to suit

Re: [IAEP] Library Activity

2009-05-05 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 02:33:30PM -0500, James Simmons wrote: All, The last few emails on the Library Activity suggest that people are looking at Library as a way of organizing their various Journal content just as

[IAEP] OLPC Volunteer Infrastructure Group Meeting: [Now]

2009-05-05 Thread Stefan Unterhauser
The Volunteer Infrastructure Group (/gang) Meeting is today (May 5th) at 4pm (EST) The Volunteer Infrastructure Group is a team of Volunteer Sysadmins who help maintain services and systems around OLPC and the OLPC/SugarLabs community. The weekly VIG meeting is an excellent chance to get

Re: [IAEP] [Grassroots-l] Planning for Sugar Camp Paris

2009-05-05 Thread Nico
Hi Chris, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: With regards to logistics I was wondering where we'll have the meetings, I assume the location that OLPC France is providing is only available on Saturday? Are there any hacker-spaces, apartments, whatever that we can occupy while we're there? Here

Re: [IAEP] Library Activity

2009-05-05 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 2:12 PM, James Simmons jim.simm...@walgreens.com wrote: Aleksey, ... In the Calibre screenshot we had File Size, Publisher, Date, Series, and I could easily do without any of them. Whereas I would use each of them frequently. o File Size is particularly useful for

Re: [IAEP] Library Activity

2009-05-05 Thread James Simmons
Carol, I meant no insult to children. I just thought they could benefit from a basic structure which they could then add to. Not everyone is good at designing hierarchies. It's something you have to learn. My own mother has not really mastered the idea of hierarchical file systems. (Dad

Re: [IAEP] NYSCATE - Nov 2009 in Rochester NY

2009-05-05 Thread Kevin Cole
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:38, Karlie Robinson karlie_robin...@webpath.netwrote: Good afternoon everyone. Charles Profitt has me thinking a lot about he New York State Association for Computers and Technologies in Education Trade show in Rochester NY, November 22-24, 2009. As Chas explains,

Re: [IAEP] NYSCATE - Nov 2009 in Rochester NY

2009-05-05 Thread Karlie Robinson
Kevin Cole wrote: On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:38, Karlie Robinson karlie_robin...@webpath.net mailto:karlie_robin...@webpath.net wrote: So would anyone like to come to Rochester with your XOs and help lead a 3 or 6 hour hands on session? If so, what should we present for 3

[IAEP] lesson plans in French

2009-05-05 Thread Caroline Meeks
French document written by teachers in Gabon: #LINK http://collabo.fse.ulaval.ca/olpc/index.php?2009/02/13/13-redaction-d-un-guide-pedagogique-du-xo-par-une-communaute-d-apprenants I ran google translate on the blog article this looks great. But when I try the pdf it says too big to translate.

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-05-03

2009-05-05 Thread Bastien
Hi all, following David Farning's advice, we want to keep the SugarCamp as informal as possible. Yet we want to have some tangible output, on top of the obvious (and noble) task of building the Sugar community. So we have been brainstorming a bit and here are 17 challenges that we may want to

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-05-03

2009-05-05 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 01:45:29AM +0200, Bastien wrote: - Update several XOs from another XO You mean http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Multicast_NAND_FLASH_Update#NANDblasting_an_Unsigned_NAND_Image_File ? - Run Sugar on a Nokia N800 N810 ok?

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] Project process visualization

2009-05-05 Thread David Farning
Hey Gaurav, The diagram is great! This is what I had originally envisioned for our getting started page on the [www|wiki].sugarlabs.org. The best part about the diagram is how it communicates how all of the different pieces fit together to make the ecosystem work. Yet, individuals can drill

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-05-03

2009-05-05 Thread Bastien
Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com writes: On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 01:45:29AM +0200, Bastien wrote: - Update several XOs from another XO You mean http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Multicast_NAND_FLASH_Update#NANDblasting_an_Unsigned_NAND_Image_File ? Well, yes, maybe (Samy?) Which reminds

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-05-03

2009-05-05 Thread David Farning
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi all, following David Farning's advice, we want to keep the SugarCamp as informal as possible.  Yet we want to have some tangible output, on top of the obvious (and noble) task of building the Sugar community. So

Re: [IAEP] [Grassroots-l] Planning for Sugar Camp Paris

2009-05-05 Thread David Farning
Does it have good public transportation to the site? If so, this sounds great for the smaller days around the official OLPC France event. BTW, were you at wintercamp in Amsterdam? /temp/lab/ sounds familiar but I can figure out why:) David On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Nico n...@openwrt.org

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] Project process visualization

2009-05-05 Thread Sameer Verma
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 4:55 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hey Gaurav, The diagram is great!  This is what I had originally envisioned for our getting started page on the [www|wiki].sugarlabs.org. The best part about the diagram is how it communicates how all of the

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] Project process visualization

2009-05-05 Thread Gaurav Bhushan
Hi everyone, Thanks Sameer for forwarding the conversation to me, I was not on the IAEP and Marketing lists so far, just joined. It would be great if you could work with Fred, Christian, Eben, Gary and the rest of the wiki/web guy to create this into an interactive 'map' for the project.

Re: [IAEP] lesson plans in French

2009-05-05 Thread Sean DALY
It may have been me, I got it from Samy at OLPC France and have linked to it several times Let's talk with them next week about how to translate this! I speak French fluently (I'm half French) but I've hesitated to take that on, very full plate thanks Sean On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 1:45 AM,