Re: [IAEP] 3 questions about Sugar Desktop Copyleft

On 20 April 2016 at 10:09, Walter Bender wrote: > I thought we moved all of Sugar core to GPLv3-or-later. I will look for > the thread. > >> Please do :) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists

Re: [IAEP] 3 questions about Sugar Desktop Copyleft

On 20 April 2016 at 10:49, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Dave Crossland (2016-04-20 15:47:33) > > > https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/FAQ#What_are_the_principles_that_guide_Sugar_Labs.3F > > says > > > > What are the principles that guide Sugar Labs? &g

Re: [IAEP] 3 questions about Sugar Desktop Copyleft

On 20 April 2016 at 10:15, Chris Leonard wrote: > On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > > https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/FAQ#What_are_the_principles_that_guide_Sugar_Labs.3F > > says > > > &g

[IAEP] 3 questions about Sugar Desktop Copyleft

Hi https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/FAQ#What_are_the_principles_that_guide_Sugar_Labs.3F says What are the principles that guide Sugar Labs? Sugar Labs subscribes to principle that learning thrives within a culture of freedom of expression, hence it has a natural affinity with the free s

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

(removed every cc but ieap) On 20 April 2016 at 02:15, Chris Leonard wrote: > As a practical matter, full-time internet connectivity is not required > for effective L10n work. > I agree, and I think that generally more can be done to make "Sugar On A Stick" into "Sugar Local Lab On A Stick" so

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

Hi On 20 April 2016 at 08:59, Chris Leonard wrote: > Were it my proposal, I would be more than happy to do so, but it is > not. I think it is a matter for the proposer and the SLOB to make > that publication determination. > Sure :) > I will be creating suitable structure > on the wiki for

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

(removed all direct emails, only using iaep list) Hi Chris On 20 April 2016 at 01:39, Chris Leonard wrote: > I worked with Samson to refine a narrower proposal that has been > presented to the SLOB by email. It is for the SLOB or Samson to > decide how / when to share it with the wider communi

[IAEP] "How can we advocate for Free/Libre Software in Education?"

Hi At FSF Libre Planet last month, Walker and Devin asked - https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Education-needs-free-software.pdf - the following question to conclude: How can we advocate for Free/Libre Software in Education? As I am delving into OLPC history, I've been interested the last weeke

Re: [IAEP] Khan Academy?

On 19 April 2016 at 22:37, Dave Crossland wrote: > KAlite is simply a web server; as a platform it is thus similar to > http://solarspell.org > https://github.com/llaske/sugarizer/issues/55 :) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project

Re: [IAEP] Khan Academy?

On 19 April 2016 at 21:40, Dave Crossland wrote: > My point is that they aren't shipping sugar platforms, they are shipping > android platforms; Sorry Tony :) I got confused between KAlite and their newer product, https://learningequality.org/kolibri/ KAlite is simply a web s

[IAEP] Khan Academy?

On 19 April 2016 at 21:10, Tony Anderson wrote in thread "Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 97, Issue 52" : > It is certainly not limited to Android since it is delivered as a website > from the server > Sure. My point is that they aren't shipping sugar platforms, they are shipping android platforms;

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

On 19 April 2016 at 19:01, Iain Brown Douglas wrote: > No I didn't try it, but it's not markdown, I think. *http://lab.hakim.se/reveal-js *has markdown support, seems to have even more features, but perhaps you want less features for the homepage :) (And, as I s

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 97, Issue 52

On 19 April 2016 at 18:50, Tony Anderson wrote: > It might be good for comparison: https://learningequality.org/ka-lite/. > VERY GOOD. Their platform - custom Android build - seems similar to OLPC Australia's "XO Duo" Android build. An old Paul Graham tip is to pay attention to the jobs pages :

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

On 19 April 2016 at 18:04, Walter Bender wrote: > It complains that my phone is not adequate -- that I should use chrome or > safari or firefox -- and gives me a skeleton presentation. > In fact that's just a feature of the 1st demo. http://valeka.net/freelancer/ and http://nice-shots.de seem o

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

On 19 April 2016 at 17:45, Walter Bender wrote: > Not such a great experience on my phone. > Did this not work? http://imgur.com/FpMncO1 ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/l

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

On 19 April 2016 at 17:19, Iain Brown Douglas wrote: > > Other slide shows I have experimented with, tend to leave too much white > space, and/or it is difficult to arrange image and text nicely, and/or > images have to be re-sized at production time, resulting in the risk of > loss of definition

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

On 19 April 2016 at 17:19, Iain Brown Douglas wrote: > the challenge is to find a "screen shot + text" slide show. > Jeykll is a simple static site generator; I think it can integrate well with remarkjs, looking at view-source:http://remarkjs.com :) __

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

On 19 April 2016 at 11:20, Iain Brown Douglas wrote: > It seems this conversation has gone a long way from wiki gardening :) > :D What I have in mind for the wiki gardening is focused entirely on the wiki content; and making a list of wiki pages to be migrated to the website (and I have WIP for

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Allow running Sugar Activities outside Sugar

I LOVE IT :D ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

[IAEP] Early Sugar Design Documentation?

Hi Trawling the depths of the OLPC/Sugar history again today, I came across http://www.mail-archive.com/fonc@vpri.org/msg04503.html in which Alan Kay opines on how Apple and Microsoft’s “app” based OS designs in the 80s introduced fundamental flaws that persist to Android and iOS today. To what e

[IAEP] Wired: Pearson’s Quest to Cover the Planet in Company-Run Schools

Hi Interesting #longread in Wired this month: http://www.wired.com/2016/04/apec-schools/ -- Cheers Dave This article appears in the April 2016 issue. By Anya Kamenetz (@anya1anya), the author of The Test, a book about standardized testing in US schools. FOR DECADES, THE major landmark of B

Re: [IAEP] SL 2016 Annual Budget / Presupuesto Proyecto Sugar Labs año 2016

Hi! Today I was reading the proposed budget for Wikimedia Foundation, which has been undergoing some leadership problems in the last few years - cf. mollywhite.net/wikimedia-timeline/ - and I hope this might also be interesting for those considering the Sugar Labs budget. https://meta.wikimedia.o

Re: [IAEP] [joke] The Sugarization of Windows

I love Neko!! :D ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] [joke] The Sugarization of Windows

On 13 April 2016 at 16:19, James Cameron wrote: > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 03:35:50PM -0400, Dave Crossland wrote: > > http://blog.emojipedia.org/ninja-cat-the-windows-only-emoji/ > > These black borders something awful familiar about that ;) > > Yes, I like them. > &

[IAEP] [joke] The Sugarization of Windows

Hi http://blog.emojipedia.org/ninja-cat-the-windows-only-emoji/ These black borders something awful familiar about that ;) -- Cheers Dave ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

On 11 April 2016 at 17:40, Dave Crossland wrote: > What are the next steps for the Wiki Gardening Weekend location > Who would like to join myself, Walter and Bernie the weekend of May 14-15 in Boston? :) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Pro

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

On 11 April 2016 at 17:51, Dave Crossland wrote: > Nikola/Lektor > It seems http://grow.io has great l16n, perhaps that could be used. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.su

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

Hi Martin! On 12 April 2016 at 17:02, Martin Dengler wrote: > > On 12 Apr 2016, at 14:45, Dave Crossland wrote: > > > On 12 April 2016 at 15:38, Martin Dengler > wrote: > >> The point is that because it's a waste of work and nobody wants to do it, >

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

On 12 April 2016 at 15:38, Martin Dengler wrote: > The point is that because it's a waste of work and nobody wants to do it, Give me the keys and I'll do it. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http:/

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

ps://github.com/sugarlabs/www-sugarlabs and https://developer.sugarlabs.org already started the move from wiki to markdown-on-github, and I'm advocating for completing it. > El 12/04/16 a las 07:58, Dave Crossland escribió: > > > > +1 > > > > Who will set this up on

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

Hi On 11 April 2016 at 23:30, Sam P. wrote: > Hosting a static site is a non-issue. We can easily do it on SL servers. > We can even configure it to automatically rebuild on git update. > > I would not use github pages. It does not yet support TLS, which is very > important in this day and age

[IAEP] 2015 SocialHelp Survey?

Hi Sam! Pinned to the top of https://socialhelp.sugarlabs.org is a thread, "Survey - “How bad is Sugar (software)?”" Are the results of this survey available anywhere? :) If not, the survey contents is anonymous, so I don't see any reason to keep the full results private, but perhaps I'm missing

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

Hi Sebastian! In the "Seeking insights into Oversight_Board/Decisions" thread you said, On 11 April 2016 at 14:57, Sebastian Silva wrote: > El 11/04/16 a las 13:56, Walter Bender escribió: > > >> Generally I think all mediawiki instances should be retired and replaced >> with a static site gen

[IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

Hi Walter! In the "Seeking insights into Oversight_Board/Decisions" thread you said, On 11 April 2016 at 14:56, Walter Bender wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> >> On 11 April 2016 at 14:32, Adam Holt wrote: >> >>>

Re: [IAEP] Seeking insights into Oversight_Board/Decisions

Hi Adam On 11 April 2016 at 15:21, Adam Holt wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> On 11 April 2016 at 14:32, Adam Holt wrote: >> >>> You are thorough enough to consider the fiduciary/stewardship secretary >>> role outli

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] Action needed on two issues

Hi Sean! On 11 April 2016 at 15:37, Sean DALY wrote: > Prior to the pack, I was funding press releases on pay-as-you-go out of my > pocket, and I wasn't able to continue that any more at over $200 a pop. > Thank you so much for that huge material contribution - there are so many PRs in https://

Re: [IAEP] Seeking insights into Oversight_Board/Decisions

Hi Sean! On 11 April 2016 at 15:57, Sean DALY wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> Given the trademark fee was recently paid to renew the trademarks, I >> guess the merits were accepted > > > For an organization with the possibilit

Re: [IAEP] Seeking insights into Oversight_Board/Decisions

On 11 April 2016 at 14:32, Adam Holt wrote: > > You are thorough enough to consider the fiduciary/stewardship secretary > role outlined below, and/or coaching/mentoring someone younger to assist > you -- would you consider giving back in this way? > Sort of: I don't want to take on any responsib

Re: [IAEP] Seeking insights into Oversight_Board/Decisions

SORRY I shot this off and didn't double check, I think I confused myself because (IIRC) Adam put together the finance wiki page summary and I got confused =) THANK YOU WALTER :D ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@list

[IAEP] Seeking insights into Oversight_Board/Decisions

Hi Thanks to Adam for putting together https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Decisions - is a great read :) I have some questions about some of the motions, but some are a few years old and perhaps it is no longer easy to answer them - no pressure :) > selectricity This sounds great! Wh

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Action needed on two issues

Hi Laura! Thanks for the spreadsheet - this is great! On 10 April 2016 at 23:57, Laura Vargas wrote: > According to the published numbers (I'm attaching a Spreadsheet with the > information published by you) for the last 4 years, ~80% (USD$26,400) of > expenses are related to promotional travel

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Action needed on two issues

On 9 April 2016 at 11:26, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > I also agree that $500 does seem excessive, and even inappropriate FWIW, I thought it was small; it is under minimum wage for some places. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) I

Re: [IAEP] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

On 5 April 2016 at 05:32, Tony Anderson wrote: > I move that the SugarLabs Oversight Board approve the position of > Translation-Community Manager as described at > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Translation-Community_Manager. > > I further move that Chris Leonard be named to this position effectiv

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

On 7 April 2016 at 13:33, Sebastian Silva wrote: > > > El 06/04/16 a las 10:30, Dave Crossland escribió: > > On 6 April 2016 at 03:25, James Cameron wrote: > >> Wiki technology is a bad match for decision making bodies unless clear >> processes are used. >>

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

Not used it, would like to :) Yep, definitely for design docs! :) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

Hi Lionel! On 6 April 2016 at 15:56, Lionel Laské wrote: > I'm just considering that the limited resources of SugarLabs should be > dedicated in priority to increase the community and I'm not convinced at > all that translation is the better way. At least the ratio cost to invest > (12000$/year)

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

On 6 April 2016 at 10:44, Walter Bender wrote: > Does the traffic include deliberation of motions? :) >> > > Never intentionally. When it does happen, we try to catch the mistake, > such as Adam reminding Tony to circulate his motion publicly, > I think this is all good, then :D On 6 April 2016

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

On 6 April 2016 at 09:42, Walter Bender wrote: > the traffic on the list is close to nil Does the traffic include deliberation of motions? :) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs

Re: [IAEP] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

On 6 April 2016 at 03:25, James Cameron wrote: > The hiding of SLOBs deliberations once they move to their private > mailing list > Why is the SLOB list private? ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org htt

Re: [IAEP] FW: Commenting on Treasurer Motions Enabled!

On 6 April 2016 at 04:58, Sean DALY wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 10:19 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> I agree that it would be awesome if someone holding the Treasurer office >> was also actively fund raising for the project! >> > > > Fundraisi

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

Hi Samson Great proposal - and glad to hear you are feeling better :) I have 2 questions :) 1. You write in the proposal, the reason why the Yoruba was the most expensive, was because the logistics Portable internet and internet plan was included, two laptop was included too. I am curious abou

Re: [IAEP] Long term, medium term, short term objectives (Local Labs 2011)

Hi Great stuff - I've added it to the talk page where I've been collecting similar related links https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Vision_proposal_2016 On 5 April 2016 at 06:51, Sebastian Silva wrote: > Hi Dave, Lionel, > > To follow up with the discussion at last SLOBs meeting regarding our

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Membership List Review?

On 4 April 2016 at 13:10, Sebastian Silva wrote: > Is there something wrong with this list? To clarify, the list is already published at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members/List :) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop projec

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Membership List Review?

Thanks! I've added a note to the wiki page On 4 April 2016 at 10:59, Walter Bender wrote: > It was last revisited in January. > > On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members says,

[IAEP] Sugar Labs Membership List Review?

Hi! http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members says, The Membership and Elections Committee will review the membership list for currency once per year. Any member may join this committee, which is currently staffed by Sebastian Silva, Samson Goddy, and Caryl Bigenho. When the membership li

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] quarterly or semiannual financials/vibrancy/transparency around Sugar Labs' 1st hire

Hi Chris! On 4 April 2016 at 01:23, Chris Leonard wrote: > On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 10:42 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > > On another note, and sorry that I missed this as it was surely stated > > elsewhere, but, what is the proposed annual fee to be paid to the TCM? >

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] quarterly or semiannual financials/vibrancy/transparency around Sugar Labs' 1st hire

On 3 April 2016 at 19:52, Walter Bender wrote: > the wiki page was the appropriate place to add ... reporting requirements I note that Walter did update that wiki page today, but did not add any further requirements to what Tony had drafted in the last few days. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

Hi On 31 March 2016 at 04:02, Samson Goddy wrote: > I will suggest that the samson proposal should be taken first in the > meeting tomorrow. the meeting is 8pm by nigerian time and the cyber > cafe i will using closes by 9pm. so i dont want to miss out. > On 1 April 2016 at 11:03, Laura Vargas

Re: [IAEP] [Localization] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

On 31 March 2016 at 20:27, Walter Bender wrote: > SFC (BTW, the Software Freedom Conservancy is asking everyone to refer to it as "Conservancy" and not "SFC" to prevent ambiguity) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@list

[IAEP] International Society for Technology in Education 2016 Conference and Expo?

Hi Is anyone involved in Sugar Labs going to https://conference.iste.org/2016/ ? Has anyone gone from SL attended previous years? ISTE 2016 says it is "the premier education technology conference," and will be held June 26-29 in Denver, Colorado, USA. -- Cheers Dave __

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

On 30 March 2016 at 20:20, Walter Bender wrote: > 7. Treasurer position and process (Adam and Caryl) See [1] > ... [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/16jIFuZ9bX > -Bv675BpA1KmcEcRcX4PRCOUEX0ICRUkOc/edit I read the doc and the structure of the policy seems good, but I would like to suggest

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

On 30 March 2016 at 15:56, Lionel Laské wrote: > > As I said at last meeting, I would like to add a topic regarding "Sugar > vision". > Will share a document proposal. > I am very eager to see your draft!! :D ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

On 30 March 2016 at 21:27, Adam Holt wrote: > the above is just a proposal I think this is a very wise proposal :) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

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