[IAEP] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Welcome_to_the_Sugar_Labs_wiki

2009-03-15 Thread David Farning
The wiki welcome just got a serious overhaul:) All of the introductory information was better presented on the static portion of the site. david ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlab

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Sugar_Labs GettingInvolved links seem broken

2009-03-15 Thread David Farning
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: > On 15 Mar 2009, at 22:01, Eben Eliason wrote: > >> Sure, but in this instance we're talking about anchor links which are >> meant to jump to specific sections of the GettingInvolved page on the >> wiki.  These should definitely be fixed, and

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] DC Photo Jam 2 - New batch of photos of SoaS running on netbooks

2009-03-15 Thread David Farning
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Sean DALY wrote: > Mike, these are breathtaking! > > Walter, David - as they are CC, and already on Flickr, and the > permissions posted by Mike are very clear, I do think we could go with > these... what do you think? Yes, we can use these images. The license th

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Sugar_Labs GettingInvolved links seem broken

2009-03-15 Thread David Farning
Can someone test to make sure the fix worked. It works for me. david On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 6:08 PM, David Farning wrote: > Easy fix for now. > > As you suspected the problem is caused by using the full url in the link. > > I can just stick a 'wiki.' in front of the u

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Sugar_Labs GettingInvolved links seem broken

2009-03-15 Thread David Farning
Easy fix for now. As you suspected the problem is caused by using the full url in the link. I can just stick a 'wiki.' in front of the url. Later we can go back on make the links relative. david On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Eben Eliason wrote: > Sure, but in this instance we're talking ab

Re: [IAEP] 0.84 doc updates

2009-03-15 Thread David Farning
Should we be working on the documents at http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/8_4/ ? david more inline On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Anne Gentle wrote: > Hi all - > Thanks to those of you who did updates on the Sugar guide for 0.84. We're > close but need a couple more items in order to

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Running sugar at almost-native speeds in Windows

2009-03-15 Thread David Farning
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 5:21 AM, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: > Wade Brainerd wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Dave Bauer wrote: >>> Actually, you can create a .vmdk from .img using the QEMU tools.  It's just that .vmdk is much more widely supported that .img so it would >>>

[IAEP] buildmaster

2009-03-14 Thread David Farning
Just wanted to give everyone a heads up that Sascha Silbe has stepped up to help out as buildmaster for Sugar Labs. I'll try not to disappear But, I am really glad someone else who knows what they are doing has offered to help out. thanks ___ IAEP -

Re: [IAEP] Priorities and Ideas (for GSoC)

2009-03-13 Thread David Farning
Hey Jameson, Mel Thanks for _proving_ me wrong. I had originally thought that Sugar Labs would only have the resources to handle two mentors/students this summers with out getting bogged down. It now looks like you have got a great handle on the project. david On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 4:49 PM,

Re: [IAEP] New sugarlabs website

2009-03-13 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Eben Eliason wrote: > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: >> Sean DALY wrote: >>> This is a good solution since people clicking on "wiki" from the intro >>> part of the site (which they will perceive as the "main" or "intro" >>> section) arriv

Re: [IAEP] Linuxtag 2009 - how do we want to promote Sugar Labs

2009-03-13 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 6:21 AM, Sean DALY wrote: > Hi Simon no problem let's put it on the agenda > > Part of the meeting will be either laughing in celebration or crying > in desolation, depending on how the press reacts or doesn't to > Monday's media launch ;-) > > Sean By every _important_ me

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2009-03-10

2009-03-10 Thread David Farning
Walter, Very nice tone. As we near the release window, it opens up the conversation from the immediately actionable to the possible. Now that the culture and rhythm 'getting things done' is pretty well established, I hope we can start encouraging those academic papers and interesting new technol

Re: [IAEP] updating the Sugar manual for 8.4 release

2009-03-10 Thread David Farning
On 3/10/09, Rita Freudenberg wrote: > Anne Gentle wrote: >> >> >> Installing Activities - >> http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/8_4/InstallingActivities >> All of this chapter's screenshots should be updateed to show where you >> download Activities now. > Ok, the screenshot for Etoys is up

Re: [IAEP] [FM Discuss] updating the Sugar manual for 0.84 release

2009-03-10 Thread David Farning
On 3/10/09, Sean DALY wrote: > Well... that's 9:00 AM EST on Monday, so maybe Sunday night is more accurate > > The possibility exists there will be a wave of traffic, so the sonner > the better ;-) > > thanks Anne > > Sean > > > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Anne Gentle wrote: >> My apologi

Re: [IAEP] Wiki breakage

2009-03-09 Thread David Farning
a set period of time. 4 weeks perhaps. david 2009/3/9 Morgan Collett : > On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 12:27, David Farning wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> Several people have pointed out the short comings of the camel case >> page names in mediawiki. >> >> As such w

[IAEP] Wiki breakage

2009-03-08 Thread David Farning
Dear all, Several people have pointed out the short comings of the camel case page names in mediawiki. As such we are going to start changing the pages from camel case to normal titles. Please accept, and expect, some breakage during this transition. The plan is to move the pages, one team at a

Re: [IAEP] Lots of Interest in SoaS at CUE

2009-03-07 Thread David Farning
On 3/7/09, Caroline Meeks wrote: > Thanks Caryl! > > When you talk to the tech savvy ones please ask them to help us test it so > we can get the bugs out and get it "Grannie ready!" There has been amazing > progress in the last few weeks but I want to keep people excited not angry > that it does

Re: [IAEP] CamelCase

2009-03-06 Thread David Farning
On 3/6/09, Frederick Grose wrote: > The continuing propagation of CamelCase words in the Sugar Labs wiki is > working against those trying use search tools to find information. > This seems to be a big disadvantage, particularly now, as we expect many new > visitors. > > Let's discourage it, and s

[IAEP] addons.sugarlabs.org -> activities.sugarlabs.org

2009-03-04 Thread David Farning
Moved addons.sl.o to activities.sl.o 1 moved tree 2 moved db 3 moved filestore 4 fixed permission 5 updated config.php 6 setup redirect 7 updated apache next steps 1 update scripts 2 move logs 3 fix strings 4 debug I would encourage activity developers to start reporting _all_ a.sl.o bugs to dev

[IAEP] migrating addons-testing to activities-testing

2009-03-04 Thread David Farning
Just a heads up that a*-testing is going to flaky for a couple of hours. david ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

[IAEP] activities-devel.sugarlabs.org phase one

2009-03-03 Thread David Farning
Phase one is over. addons-devel.sl.o is replaced by activities-devel.sl.org There are still many strings which need fixing. The basic site, url-rewrites, uploads, downloads, and database access should work. If you have a bit of courage take a look and report some bugs so we can move adctivities

[IAEP] activities-devel.sugarlabs.org, activities-testing.sugarlabs.org

2009-03-03 Thread David Farning
opps had a brain freeze in the last update Activity developers should continue to use addons.sugarlab.org for the next couple of days. We will copy the database and file to activities.sugarlabs.org david ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a lap

[IAEP] activities-devel.sugarlabs.org, activities-testing.sugarlabs.org

2009-03-03 Thread David Farning
After much too long we finally have activities.sugarlabs.org up. We currently have three instances; production, testing, and devel just as with addons.sl.o. Devel and testing are operational. We will hold off a few days for the changes in devel and testing to settle out before turning on producti

Re: [IAEP] how should we relate with our competitors? (was Re: First competitor?)

2009-03-02 Thread David Farning
Will do. Thanks david On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 2:03 AM, Edward Cherlin wrote: > Say Hi from me. I invited them to join with Sugar Labs on software and > Earth Treasury on textbooks when we met at SCaLE 7x. > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:41 PM, David Farning wrote: >> 2009/3/

Re: [IAEP] Moon-9, almost (Re: [Sugar-devel] addons.sugarlabs.org is starting to work)

2009-03-01 Thread David Farning
e later: http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~bjordan/aslo2.png > > Brian > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> >> On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 03:40, Gary C Martin wrote: >> > On 20 Feb 2009, at 17:02, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> > >> >>

Re: [IAEP] how should we relate with our competitors? (was Re: First competitor?)

2009-03-01 Thread David Farning
2009/3/1 Bernie Innocenti : > Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> I think that we should be establishing close contact with these groups >> of people that have some goals in common with us. Our market and the >> problems we try to solve are so vast, that there's more to win by >> working together than by ignori

Re: [IAEP] http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/

2009-02-27 Thread David Farning
ugs? > > Thanks, > > > Christian > > > On 2/27/09 11:56 AM, "Benjamin M. Schwartz" > wrote: > >> David Farning wrote: >>> Sorry there was a typo in my last email the site is actually >>> http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/ >> >

[IAEP] http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/

2009-02-27 Thread David Farning
Sorry there was a typo in my last email the site is actually http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

[IAEP] www-test.sugarlabs.org up

2009-02-27 Thread David Farning
The new landing site is up at www-test.sugarlabs.org . Give it a shot. We will live whenever Bernie and Christian are ready. david ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinf

Re: [IAEP] First competitor?

2009-02-27 Thread David Farning
I like to think of them as fellow discovers working, and learning, at the junction of education, technology, and open source:) The was talk of a Qt base 'sugar' a few months ago. I am not sure how far that has gotten yet. david On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > Or jus

[IAEP] setting up aslo

2009-02-27 Thread David Farning
Josh, I thought I read some where that you were interested in setting up your own also instance. I am leaving in the morning for a week in Amsterdam at wintercamp followed by a few days vacation:) So, I am more disorganized than normal:( There are directions at http://sugarlabs.org/go/Developmen

Re: [IAEP] Design for a.sl.o and sugarlabs branding/theme unity

2009-02-27 Thread David Farning
light background was what you would 'want' from computers. david > > Christian > > > From: Sean DALY [mailto:sdaly...@gmail.com] > To: ,Josh williams [mailto:joshcwilli...@gmail.com] > Cc: David Farning [mailto:dfarn...@

[IAEP] also update.

2009-02-26 Thread David Farning
I pushed another series of updates for aslo. david commit 056a272732390dc673ba192abcb1fb611c8fdcc0 Author: add ons Date: Thu Feb 26 19:36:07 2009 + Replace hardcoded irc.mozilla.org with constant HELP_IRC commit dec64e6e1a896c9051fcd054d84d40d47c494838 Author: add ons Date: Thu Feb

Re: [IAEP] Design for a.sl.o and sugarlabs

2009-02-26 Thread David Farning
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Wade Brainerd wrote: > Hey Josh, thanks for the offer of help! > I definitely like your simple and kid-friendly theme for addons. I wonder > off the top of my head though, if it makes sense to make addons.sl.o look > *more* like the other sl.o sites? Have you gott

[IAEP] education team meeting

2009-02-21 Thread David Farning
Walter, Would you please create an agenda and and set a meeting time for the education team at http://sugarlabs.org/go/EducationTeam/Meetings thanks david ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://list

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] design team meeting (And finding a new regular time)

2009-02-21 Thread David Farning
Christian, Will you post the new meeting information on http://sugarlabs.org/go/DesignTeam/Meetings ? On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote: > Hi there > > > Why don't we start by getting a day on the calendar for a regular design > meeting. How is Saturday at 11am? Does

Re: [IAEP] Moon-9, almost (Re: [Sugar-devel] addons.sugarlabs.org is starting to work)

2009-02-20 Thread David Farning
As part of /bin/build.py there is a .js add .css minimizer. It must be screw up. I think that we need to replace the minimzed .js and .css with upstream's and turn off the minimizer. david 2009/2/21 Tomeu Vizoso : > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 08:49, Wade Brainerd wrote: >> Yeah, it seems like a l

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] design team meeting (And finding a new regular time)

2009-02-19 Thread David Farning
I talked to a designer named josh who is doing interesting stuff. see http://sugarlabs.org/go/AddonsPortal/Design Sorry, but I don't remember his email. Goes by y0shu on irc. Another design related would be to standardizing the look and feel of the various Sugar Labs web sites. david On Fri,

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] addons.sugarlabs.org is starting to work

2009-02-19 Thread David Farning
at is outside. But, to be honest, we are probably 3-6 months away from making those decisions. It is going to take a healthy dose of feedback from the distributions about best practices. david > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:41 AM, David Farning > wrote: >> >> On Fri, Feb 20, 20

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] addons.sugarlabs.org is starting to work

2009-02-19 Thread David Farning
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Carol Farlow Lerche wrote: > How does the Mozilla add-on functionality decide if there is a version or > platform conflict for browser add-ons? it must be a piece of the browser > that does this via some interaction with data on the server. Shouldn't > there be

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] addons.sugarlabs.org is starting to work

2009-02-18 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 3:53 PM, David Farning wrote: > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 3:44 PM, victor wrote: >> I can't get it to work. When I try to upload a file (from 'developer >> tools'), >> there is an error > > What is the error? Tomeu is good, but

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] addons.sugarlabs.org is starting to work

2009-02-18 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 3:44 PM, victor wrote: > I can't get it to work. When I try to upload a file (from 'developer > tools'), > there is an error What is the error? Tomeu is good, but not that good. david > - Original Message - > From: "Simon Schampijer" > To: "Tomeu Vizoso" > Cc:

Re: [IAEP] Linuxtag 2009 - how do we want to promote Sugar Labs

2009-02-13 Thread David Farning
Very nice. david On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Rita Freudenberg wrote: > > Am 12.02.2009 um 12:41 schrieb Holger Levsen: > >> Hi, >> >> On Dienstag, 10. Februar 2009, Simon Schampijer wrote: >>> I would like us to be present at LinuxTag (24-27 June 2009) [1]. >> >> What do you think about a

[IAEP] Intro to non-profit finances.

2009-02-13 Thread David Farning
It is time to start formalizing the Sugar Labs finances. It has been a rather long process, but I am satisfied that we headed in the correct direction. BACKGROUND Typically, finance is one of the most difficult issues for non-profits. First, no one cares. After all, we are here to create a great

[IAEP] Packaging thread summary

2009-02-12 Thread David Farning
There has recently been a rather long packing thread on this list. First, a couple of observations: The goal of Sugar Labs is to create a _great_ learning platform. Sugar Labs can _not_ accomplish that goal alone; we need a strong ecosystem to distribute and deploy the platform. Sugar Labs does no

[IAEP] Our first employee, sort of

2009-02-11 Thread David Farning
I would like to announce that due to a generous donation from Solution Grove and some hard work by Caroline Meeks we are in the process of hiring our first employee! Terri is a graduate student at the Harvard School of Education. She will be spending the semester developing teacher training mater

[IAEP] FOSSDEM update

2009-02-11 Thread David Farning
Last weekend we had a group of Sugar people attend FOSSDEM. The focus for the weekend was Mandriva and its derivatives. Mandriva is a natural fit for Sugar Labs because of their success in the netbook market segment. Our people talked to Mandriva, Gduim and Caixa Magica. One of the key points T

[IAEP] partner brainstorming

2009-02-11 Thread David Farning
I know this sounds very unlike me. I am a big fan on actionable items:) Can you'all help brain storm about possible partners with which Sugar labs can have a mutually beneficial relationship? Early adopters in education, OEMs, VARs, ISVs Let's hear your list of organization and thoughts as

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Static services for Local Labs

2009-02-11 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 18:29, David Farning wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >>> Maybe the issue here is that local labs have a much broader scope than >>> the global Sugar Lab

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Static services for Local Labs

2009-02-11 Thread David Farning
'm interested in >>> including some sort of disconnected use (that is, for instance, getting them >>> a "news/mailing list/new activities feed" from the social network with a USB >>> monthly, and provide them with a way to "respond" - can be email -

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Static services for Local Labs

2009-02-11 Thread David Farning
; This is likely also the tool that will help manage the Bolivia deployment > (but we will likelly have some more connectivity in Bolivia). > > Looking forward to share more as things develop, looking for feedback / > synergy. Thanks, and keep push things back upstream. david >

Re: [IAEP] Static services for Local Labs

2009-02-11 Thread David Farning
I tend to think that a cms is a bit of overkill for a young organization. One of my personal long term goal is to determine how we can clone SL in Local SLs by reproducing the best practices of SL on a more local scale. Developer side: 1. The key component is the release cycle, ever thing else is

Re: [IAEP] calendar

2009-02-09 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 1:20 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 2:39 AM, David Farning wrote: >> Well, It seems that using google calendar was a flop:( It just added >> another level of complexity without adding much value. >> >> I am plann

[IAEP] Thanks page

2009-02-08 Thread David Farning
I took another stab at the thank you page tonight. Added some logos and whatnot:) http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/ThankYou Are we missing any sponsors? Is Christian working on Pentagram time or his own? Anyone with any taste, such as Gary, want to turn this page into something awesome? davi

[IAEP] calendar

2009-02-08 Thread David Farning
Well, It seems that using google calendar was a flop:( It just added another level of complexity without adding much value. I am planning on removing the meeting calanders and replacing them with a simple header like the deployment team uses at http://sugarlabs.org/go/DeploymentTeam . Any other

Re: [IAEP] Activity Authentication - Questions about legal liability

2009-02-08 Thread David Farning
Luke, Take a look at how mozilla handles content at addons.sugarlabs.org. They have pretty sane way of handling the issue. The eclipse.org ecosystem has a more ridged yet fairly usable control mechanism. David On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Luke Faraone wrote: > Walter, (cc'd to list) > > The

[IAEP] Updating our thank you page

2009-02-06 Thread David Farning
A few days ago Bernie pointed out that we were falling behind on our sponsor credit page at http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/ThankYou . So who else do you know that is helping us out? Education Solutions Grove - Teacher training intern spring 2009 Engineering Colabora - colaboration work. RedH

Re: [IAEP] Fwd: New Partner Challenge Launched: UC Berkeley Mobile Challenge

2009-02-03 Thread David Farning
I t looks like the due date was Feb. 2nd. david On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote: > FYI > > > Rafael Ortiz > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Amy Sample > Date: Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:54 PM > Subject: New Partner Challenge Launched: UC Berkel

Re: [IAEP] Mobilis

2009-02-03 Thread David Farning
, there is no time left for the important things like contacting customers. david On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 1:45 PM, David Farning wrote: > I haven't looked too far into this yet. If no one else gets to it, I > can pick it back up when I get back . > > thanks > david > >

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] ICA or ICLA for SugarLabs ?

2009-02-03 Thread David Farning
SLOBS CC removed Please continue to bug us about this It was so far down my todo list it fell of the end. Based on the fact the SFC has not gotten back to us it is pretty low on their list too. david On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > [cc += i...@] > > Rafael Enrique Or

Re: [IAEP] irc logs

2009-02-03 Thread David Farning
Morgan, Could you run xbot from one of our other servers? If so please file bug against infrastructure. david On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 6:18 AM, Morgan Collett wrote: > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 14:10, Ties Stuij wrote: >> I would really appreciate some logging of the #sugar channel, as my >> conne

Re: [IAEP] Crediting sponsors

2009-02-03 Thread David Farning
There is no reason that this should be on SLOBs CC -:) On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > Morgan Collett wrote: >> When I blogged the "state of Sugar" mail you sent from the marketing >> team, Rob McQueen pointed out that Collabora is also providing >> engineering resources

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Governance.

2009-02-01 Thread David Farning
I take full responsibility for starting the thread Mike is upset about. _Every_ action I make as part of Sugar Labs involves four steps: 1. Seek opinions of people I trust about the topic at hand. 2. Public summarize what I have learned on IAEP. 3. Wait for a consensus to form. 4. Take action

Re: [IAEP] Mobilis

2009-01-30 Thread David Farning
I haven't looked too far into this yet. If no one else gets to it, I can pick it back up when I get back . thanks david On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > Ciao, > > Jason Kriedner of TI pointed me at this new low cost netbook from India: > > http://www.ncoretech.com/pr

Re: [IAEP] Where Do We Fit?

2009-01-25 Thread David Farning
One thing to remember is that a large portion of the Gates Foundation assets are in the form of Microsoft stock. As a result, the foundation will have a strong bias towards supporting Microsoft as a company. The two biggest ideas for Sugar Labs that I got from reading the foundation inform were:

Re: [IAEP] FOSDEM 2009 accommodation

2009-01-24 Thread David Farning
Were you able set up something with the CM people for FOSDOM? david On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 6:25 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 13:22, Walter Bender wrote: >> Rob Savoye will be at FOSDEM. We were discussing the possibility of a >> sprint to make a Gnash player Sugar Activity

Re: [IAEP] ANN: Squeakland Foundation Inc.

2009-01-20 Thread David Farning
Very nice, I look forward to working with Squeakland as Sugar Labs continue to push one-to-one computing:) david On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Rita Freudenberg wrote: > Hello everyone, > > We're excited to announce the formation of Squeakland Foundation Inc, > a non-profit organization that

Re: [IAEP] Forming, Storming, Norming, Performing

2009-01-20 Thread David Farning
eem at times almost > indulgently philosophical on the challenges of using new systems and the > inertia of schooling, as well as no doubt also being technical gurus - > seems the big ideas are needed as well as the practical implementation > > Cheers > > Rob > > > > >

[IAEP] Forming, Storming, Norming, Performing

2009-01-17 Thread David Farning
In survey after survey, when schools ask employers what skills their graduates are lacking 'working in groups' is always near the top of the list. It has always struck me as odd that, after more than 20 years of individual student work, a three credit class in group dynamics is expected to fill th

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] wiki bugs

2009-01-16 Thread David Farning
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join might prove to be a good example:) david On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: > On 12 Jan 2009, at 18:34, Gary C Martin wrote: > >> On 12 Jan 2009, at 17:47, Wade Brainerd wrote: >> >>> http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/GettingInvolved >>> >>>

Re: [IAEP] packaging sugar in all major distros

2009-01-13 Thread David Farning
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Gary C Martin wrote: > > On 13 Jan 2009, at 10:59, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> have just created a page where to track the packaging effort in each >> distro: >> >> http://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/Packaging >> >> If packagers were so kind to main

[IAEP] Yes, but who is in charge

2009-01-13 Thread David Farning
Yesterday, XOCamp went really well! It was a nice mix of informal conversations and formal talks. On the informal side, "How do we retain that skills and knowledge of OLPC alumni?" which was led and attended by alumni was in my mind worth the cost and effort of the XOcamp. On the formal side OLE

[IAEP] Marketing tag line

2009-01-12 Thread David Farning
Sugar - emacs for a new generation ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

[IAEP] Responsibility requires authority

2009-01-12 Thread David Farning
FUDCon wrapped up yesterday. Like a good constructionist, I am Reflecting on what we learned. Responsibility requires authority - A key point that appeared over and over at FUDCon was the notion that responsibility requires authority. The most visible example of this is the release manager. The

[IAEP] Sugar update

2009-01-09 Thread David Farning
Over the last two days, many people involved in developing and distributing Sugar have taken the opportunity provided by FUDCon to meet, talk, find common ground, and most importantly, find a way forward. We started off the day with a brief situation analysis lead by Walter Bender. Not much needs

Re: [IAEP] OLPC: "Refocusing on our mission"

2009-01-07 Thread David Farning
t they are today. You still are at the forefront of a revolution in learning such as the world has not seen since the invention of the printing press. But, this revolution, as with all revolutions, is hard to plan; there are no maps, there is no rule book, there is no gray bearded sage to g

Re: [IAEP] XOCamp diplomas? + beg for housing

2009-01-06 Thread David Farning
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Jameson Quinn wrote: > 1. Diplomas > > I know it sounds ridiculous, but here in Guatemala every conference or > training anybody goes to hands out nicely-printed diplomas, many of which > say you are now a Certified Educational Quality Monitor or some such > bullsh

[IAEP] Flash at Sugar Labs

2009-01-04 Thread David Farning
Bryan Berry started a great thread about activity development a few days ago. In the initial post he proposed using flash as means of developing content. Before taking the thread any farther I though we should stop and look at what flash actually is. The term flash is often interchangeably used

Re: [IAEP] Implementing Sugar in Medical Schools?

2009-01-02 Thread David Farning
Hey Silas, Good to hear from you and hope you are having a good holiday season! I have cced the iaep mailing list so other can chime in. Silas is the coordinator of the University of Wisconsin OLPC sutudent org. John Wiley, the former Dean of the School of Engineering, purchased 100 XOs. Those

[IAEP] buildbot.sugarlabs.org:8080

2008-12-31 Thread David Farning
Any Python web developers looking for a project? buildbot.sugarlabs.org:8080 is getting close to being ready to go. Note the port 8080. It is not quite ready for production:( It is based on build.gnome.org and the custom modifications that Marco et. al. make to Sugar-jhbuild. The code is at http

[IAEP] Sugar Labs web services conventions

2008-12-27 Thread David Farning
Over the last couple of weeks Sugar Labs has brought several web services online. What would be a good naming convention for the git repositories for these services? I have been using SERVICENAME.sugarlabs.org. Now, I think that sl.o-SERVICENAME makes more sense. It is easier to search for web

[IAEP] Calendar goodness

2008-12-19 Thread David Farning
As promised, Each team has now has an embedded google calender for scheduling team meeting and events on their *team/Meeting page . Team leader have been assigned ownership of their teams. Team leaders, please update you calendar. If something doesn't work as expected please file a bug against t

[IAEP] New Server

2008-12-18 Thread David Farning
the machines hosted at OSL, prgrmr.com, Collabora, SolutionGroove and Google will also remain operational. thank you David Farning Sugar Labs http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Donate ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)

[IAEP] Calendar goodness?

2008-12-17 Thread David Farning
I have been looking at how we communicate scheduled events and meeting. Embedding gcalendars in mediawiki are a little flacky:( An example can be seen at http://sugarlabs.org/go/WikiTeam/Meetings . We currently have at least two gcalendars and a custom itenery page at http://sugarlabs.org/go/Mar

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs or Sugar Daddy

2008-12-17 Thread David Farning
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Edward Cherlin wrote: > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:25 AM, David Farning > wrote: >> One of the challenges that businesses face is keeping their expenses >> below their revenues. Your grandpa would have said, "Don't spend more >>

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs or Sugar Daddy

2008-12-17 Thread David Farning
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: > Hello, > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Caroline Meeks > wrote: >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:25 PM, David Farning wrote: >>> I am convinced that the correct business model for Sugar Labs, wil

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs or Sugar Daddy

2008-12-17 Thread David Farning
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Caroline Meeks wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:25 PM, David Farning > wrote: >> >> One of the challenges that businesses face is keeping their expenses >> below their revenues. Your grandpa would have said, "Don&#x

Re: [IAEP] TestingTeam -> Bugsquad

2008-12-16 Thread David Farning
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 3:34 AM, Simon Schampijer wrote: > Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 17:28, Eben Eliason wrote: >>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 5:55 AM, Simon Schampijer >>> wrote: Hi, we agreed in the QA-Meeting to rename the TestingTeam to Bugsquad [1]. Ca

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] Human Interface Guidelines (update and hosting)

2008-12-16 Thread David Farning
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Eben Eliason wrote: > Hello everyone - > > The Human Interface Guidelines [1] have been stagnant for some time, > and I'm starting an initiative to remedy the situation. This effort, > as I see it, has two components: 1) update the contents of the HIG and > 2) tea

Re: [IAEP] Ncomputing

2008-12-16 Thread David Farning
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:58 AM, David Van Assche wrote: > I have recently done a bunch of bug reports relating to better working > under both sugar/ubuntu and sugar/ubuntu/ltsp. I'm using launchpad, > because that is the home of LTSP and Ubuntu too (and I like its > simplicty.) I've recently tes

[IAEP] Sugar Labs or Sugar Daddy

2008-12-16 Thread David Farning
One of the challenges that businesses face is keeping their expenses below their revenues. Your grandpa would have said, "Don't spend more than you make." In many respects an open source project is a business. Formally, Sugar Labs is a Not For Profit organized under the umbrella of the Software

Re: [IAEP] XOCamp fundraising (and, please sign up to donate)

2008-12-15 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Jameson Quinn wrote: > It's getting to be time to buy tickets for XOCamp 2, which is in under a > month now. Those of us who'd like to come from far away would love to know > whether we can get some financial support for our journey. However, the > relevant wiki pa

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2008-12-15

2008-12-15 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 18:15, David Farning wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Walter Bender >> wrote: >>> === Sugar Digest === >>> >>> 6. GNOME: I will be representing Sugar on the GNOM

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2008-12-15

2008-12-15 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Walter Bender wrote: > === Sugar Digest === > > 6. GNOME: I will be representing Sugar on the GNOME foundation board > of advisers. If you have any Sugar-related concerns you would like > voiced, please let me know. An issue to consider is the feasibility of buil

Re: [IAEP] USB based access in Australia

2008-12-13 Thread David Farning
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 11:58 PM, Sebastian Silva wrote: > 2008/12/11 : >> Con has done quite a lot of work promoting the use of open source software >> here and will be well known to many IT teachers. At least in the state of >> Victoria, the education department has done a bulk purchase of Mi

Re: [IAEP] OLPC and Sugar Labs -- a Sugar Labs perspective

2008-12-13 Thread David Farning
I would also add a clause (d) similar to the following. (d) many Sugar Labs community members remain deeply committed as individuals to advancing the XO and they continue to develop, distribute, and support Sugar on the XO. With or without the new clause, I will stand behind Walter's statement:)

Re: [IAEP] Sugar - Local Lab - Partners

2008-12-13 Thread David Farning
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 6:00 PM, David Farning wrote: > I have gotten confused by all of the threads going on about Local > Labs:( So, as far as I am concerned, if the conversation doesn't > happen on IAEP or a scheduled meeting, it didn't happen. Yes, I meant > to un-subs

[IAEP] Sugar - Local Lab - Partners

2008-12-12 Thread David Farning
I have gotten confused by all of the threads going on about Local Labs:( So, as far as I am concerned, if the conversation doesn't happen on IAEP or a scheduled meeting, it didn't happen. Yes, I meant to un-subscribe from slobs. Yes, I am aware that if notion that knowledge is power holds true, I

[IAEP] Doc and Wiki teams

2008-12-11 Thread David Farning
Is there anyone interested in looking after the Documentation and Wiki teams? I have gotten pretty burned out theses last couple of weeks and would like to get back to writing code for awhile. thanks david ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a la

Re: [IAEP] introduction - hi I'm Donna

2008-12-09 Thread David Farning
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Donna Benjamin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I've long been a passionate advocate of the OLPC project, and followed > with interest the development and creation of sugarlabs. > > As conference director for linux.conf.au in Melbourne earlier this year > I

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