Re: [IAEP] 2016-2018 Oversight Board

2015-12-29 Thread Dan Tenason
>Tuesday, December 29, 2015 10:59 PM +08:00 from Laura Vargas >: > > >d >Hello everybody / Hola a todos > >Hope all the holiday wishes come with many blessings for the big Sugar family.  > >2015 was a great year, many exciting releases! I would like to congratulate >and

Re: [IAEP] 2016-2018 Oversight Board

2015-12-29 Thread Dan Tenason
Wednesday, December 30, 2015 3:10 AM +05:30 from Nick Doiron < ndoi...@mapmeld.com >: > >Can we avoid using these lists to tell people how to vote, except via >candidate statements. It'll be much more constructive. >The list of voting members is public. You can find your friends there. +1

[IAEP] Membership deadline.

2015-11-30 Thread Dan Tenason
It looks like another deadline for the the membership drive has come and gone with four new members added to the spreadsheet at  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members/List  . As a gauge of interest it would be helpful for membership committee to publish the aggregate statistics for

Re: [IAEP] Maybe SLOBS candidates have some thought on this issues?

2015-11-12 Thread Dan Tenason
work and constructive ideas.  > >Best regards, > >Laura V. > >2015-11-10 11:21 GMT-05:00 Dan Tenason < dan.tena...@mail.ru > : >>Over the past couple of weeks there have been some interesting emails from  >>James Cameron, the last software person remaining softwa

[IAEP] Maybe SLOBS candidates have some thought on this issues?

2015-11-10 Thread Dan Tenason
Over the past couple of weeks there have been some interesting emails from  James Cameron, the last software person remaining software person at OLPC, that have been rather hostile towards the volunteer community which have culminated in 

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Election status?

2015-10-09 Thread Dan Tenason
I don't know about the election, but there has been progress regarding the >>membership process. Kudos to Samson, Caryl, and Sebastian for improving that >>process. I expect that Adam will report in at the next SLOB meeting, which is >>Monday, 5 Oct. >> >>reg

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Election status?

2015-09-30 Thread Dan Tenason
then, two more weeks have passed without  public signs of progress from either Ms. Bigenhho or Mr. Holt. Dan >Thursday, September 24, 2015 6:00 AM -04:00 from Walter Bender ><walter.ben...@gmail.com>: > >On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 11:23 PM, Dan Tenason < dan.tena...@mail.ru &g

[IAEP] Election status?

2015-09-23 Thread Dan Tenason
Is anything happening on the election front? The last public comment was the first week of July. It seemed there was much stuff to do. So much stuff that the earliest possible date to hold an election would be in November, 4 month later. Here we are 2.5 months later and not a single public

[IAEP] Time for another reminder to fact check.

2015-09-10 Thread Dan Tenason
The uncited quotation that " Sugar’s  Activities  are used every school day by nearly 3 million children " is still on the front page of the web site. Does anyone still stand behind that number as fact? Or is it safe to say that it is marketing fluff? -- Dan

Re: [IAEP] Tidepool news

2015-08-16 Thread Dan Tenason
I am interested why you chose to post this to the IAEP list. Last time I heard Mr Bender talk, he spoke of Waveplace as being 'of questionable educational value and dubious intent.'  At the time, I remember thinking that it seemed that Mr Bender was attempting to create attention for his own

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Open issues

2015-06-25 Thread Dan Tenason
Wednesday, June 24, 2015 8:48 PM -05:00 from Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org: On 24/06/15 03:40, Sam P. wrote: IDK about the election but. Hopefully somebody who knows about that can respond. Here's a status report: I asked the board to appoint me election committee. Then the

[IAEP] Open issues

2015-06-22 Thread Dan Tenason
It was impressive to see how quickly Mr. Innocenti updated the infrastructure once he was made aware that the servers had gone down. Some other problem areas have not been dealt with as quickly. Sugar Labs has now been operating for six months without an oversight board. The early June

Re: [IAEP] sugar numbers

2015-06-10 Thread Dan Tenason
Friday, June 5, 2015 10:35 PM -06:00 from Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com: Don't read into my comments things that aren't there. I assumed, as I am certain many others have, that you were talking about OLPC and the use of the XO machines. Read through your posts and I think you will see

Re: [IAEP] sugar numbers

2015-06-05 Thread Dan Tenason
Wednesday, June 3, 2015 5:24 PM -06:00 from Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com: Criticism !=  Critical Thinking.  This whole discussion is pointless! You are arguing about the current use of laptops that are as much as 8 years old. Yes, many of them, maybe even most of them, are still

Re: [IAEP] sugar numbers

2015-06-03 Thread Dan Tenason
Monday, June 1, 2015 9:50 PM -04:00 from Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org: On 05/27/2015 03:20 PM, Dan Tenason wrote: This change does not require a complete rewrite of the site. Just a simple deletion of an incorrect, and often quoted, statement on the landing page. You initially stated

Re: [IAEP] sugar numbers

2015-05-27 Thread Dan Tenason
Tuesday, May 26, 2015 11:39 AM -03:00 from Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org: On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Dan Tenason dan.tena...@mail.ru wrote: Dan - if you are sincerely interested in the numbers, why don't you write to the education ministries? In serious research

Re: [IAEP] sugar numbers

2015-05-25 Thread Dan Tenason
Dan - if you are sincerely interested in the numbers, why don't you write to the education ministries? In serious research, as in serious journalism, you need to consult official sources. Sean Daly (no e) I would like to thank everyone for their responses. They findings of Mr Holt, Ms

[IAEP] Sugar Numbers

2015-05-15 Thread Dan Tenason
The Sugar Labs website is still stating  Sugar’s  Activities  are used every school day by nearly 3 million children. Mr Daley stated this number is based on Total number of XOs shipped as reported by OLPC + total number of copies of Sugar on a Stick downloaded.  laptop.org  states that about

Re: [IAEP] Deployments survey results

2015-05-06 Thread Dan Tenason
Congratulations. This is a very good first step in improving communication.  Tuesday, May 5, 2015 10:21 AM -03:00 from Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org: Hello community, In the last months, the SuarLabs Oversight Board run a survey between people involved in the deployments, with the

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Numbers

2015-04-17 Thread Dan Tenason
://www.fenix951.com.ar/nuevo_2013/noticia.php?id=4552 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Dan Tenason dan.tena...@mail.ru wrote: A few weeks ago I raised the question about how phrase three million daily users was calculated. The general line of thought in a thread on sugar-devel was we don't know

[IAEP] Sugar Numbers

2015-04-16 Thread Dan Tenason
A few weeks ago I raised the question about how phrase three million daily users was calculated. The general line of thought in a thread on sugar-devel was we don't know but we think it is an optimistic figure based on the total number of laptops OLPC produced. Further analysis is hard and we

Re: [IAEP] New try on a better sugarlabs site

2015-04-10 Thread Dan Tenason
Is there any proof that sugar is used everyday by nearly 3 million children at stated on the website? My research from 2 countries which have purchased over 100,000 laptops has indicated that due to non-deliver, breakage, and disuse, the term 'used daily by 3 million children' is overstating

[IAEP] Is Mr. Bender compensated by OLPC or any other organization?

2015-03-28 Thread Dan Tenason
How much Mr. Bender is being compensated by OLPC for his work on Sugar or OLPC related matters? On the OLPC web site he is listed as a contractor.  Mr. Cameron is also listed as a contractor. He is paid to provide support to regional projects. Has Mr. Bender been paid or provided travel

[IAEP] More Sugar Numbers.

2015-03-23 Thread Dan Tenason
Some more interesting Sugar and XO numbers. At the site https://www.one-education.org/   OLPC Australia is reporting that 2,370 out of 42,329 phoned home. That is about 5% phoning home. I was expecting significantly higher numbers from them. I hope that is a glitch in their reporting

[IAEP] OLPC and Sugar numbers

2015-03-18 Thread Dan Tenason
The recent posts on the Future of Sugar have been insightful. Mr Daly's comments on marketing have been particularly poignant. Both OLPC and Sugar Labs have been calling for more money, more developers, more time to solve their problems. Both organizations have suffered due to a lack of

[IAEP] Are there papers available on Sugar?

2015-03-12 Thread Dan Tenason
As part of my research I have been looking for peer reviewed papers on Sugar. There is an extensive amount of literature on One Laptop per Child from 2007 and 2008 which trickles off to footnotes by 2015. I was unable to find any papers on Sugar or Sugar Labs. To be fair, the effects of sugar

[IAEP] Will anything change this time?

2015-03-07 Thread Dan Tenason
As part of my research, I reviewed iaep since the inception of the project. This same general discussion comes up over and over. A long term supporter of the project expresses concern over the future of the project. Dr Bender replies with a Sugar Digest post that everything is perfect.  At

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Planning for the future (Samuel Greenfeld)

2015-02-27 Thread Dan Tenason
Friday, February 27, 2015 2:07 PM -03:00 from Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org: Thanks Samuel for start this public discussion. I share some of your concerns, and agree with your points. I think we agree web activities is the way to move forward. We started to work on that  for Sugar

[IAEP] What happened to Martin, Gonzalo, and Walter at One Education?

2015-02-22 Thread Dan Tenason
After following a link from an article on the new One Education laptop to the people page at the One Education site, I saw that Martin, Gonzalo, and Walter are no longer listed at employees at One Education. What happened? Is anyone paying these guys now? -- Dan

[IAEP] Board Status

2015-01-29 Thread Dan Tenason
at 12:07 PM, Dan Tenason dan.tena...@mail.ru wrote: I am following OLPC as part of a research paper on open source organizations. Going over the archives, it seems there has not been a board election in a couple of years. Has this affected the project in any way? -- Dan Tenason