Re: [IAEP] Linuxtag 2009 - how do we want to promote Sugar Labs

2009-02-11 Thread Simon Schampijer
Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: On Tue, 10 Feb 2009, Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi, I would like us to be present at LinuxTag (24-27 June 2009) [1]. The call for papers did end the 8th of February [2] - but we could try to contact the organizers directly (I should have some contacts from last

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-11 Thread Sean DALY
It is absolutely vital that SoaS boot/install work in a reliable way. Any nongeek user who can't use it will not bother reporting precise bug information, and moreover will lose motivation to try it again. In the case of branded USB sticks boot/install failures will make Sugar Labs appear as a

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-11 Thread David Van Assche
hey there sean essentially there is no difference between SoaS and cd the problem comes from the distro specific intricacies, which can be many more than devs care to admit... I agree.. this is not a usable product unless it alll works... saying oh welll speak doesnt work because of x

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-11 Thread Morgan Collett
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 04:14, David Van Assche dvanass...@gmail.com wrote: ok? I guess this will be contreversial but it must be said and acted upon (much more importantly) Im gonna try and make this easy: SoaS - the latest fedora core based I tried to impress my 9 year old gescwister...

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, I see frustration but I'm having trouble knowing who should have done something and failed to do it. Can we get a list of issues, each of them with a list of people that may be able to do something about them? Thanks, Tomeu On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:16, David Van Assche

Re: [IAEP] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-11 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, Reading this thread I've realized that there is a huge lack of target distro, many people work for various distros and the fact is - there is now fully featured sugar for at least one distro. I think we should choose *one* target distro for incoming 0.84 release. I don't mean choose it

Re: [IAEP] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-11 Thread David Van Assche
yes u are absolutly right... 0.84 is the focus now of every distro (maybe excepting debian) we will fix this all, but please, let us not sa y is a releasable usable product for educators until weve tested it ALL and we all agree that this is indeed the produuct (which i need nonconvicnig of) that

Re: [IAEP] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 01:16:19PM +0100, David Van Assche wrote: yes u are absolutly right... 0.84 is the focus now of every distro (maybe excepting debian) Focus for Debian is latest upstream stable release, which means 0.84 when that is

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 03:57:22AM +0100, David Van Assche wrote: you know what the irony is with all this... all we need to do to get those packs working is type ./configure --with-libabiword I know because I took the painful step of doing it in

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-11 Thread Morgan Collett
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 16:22, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 03:57:22AM +0100, David Van Assche wrote: you know what the irony is with all this... all we need to do to get those packs working is type ./configure

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 11.02.2009, at 10:59, Morgan Collett wrote: etoys This is packaged, but I think we're still missing a bit - the actual sugar activity for etoys. I don't personally have the time to work on it because I'm working on the above (and the actual glucose packages). What needs to be done

[IAEP] Static services for Local Labs

2009-02-11 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
Hello all. I was thinking that maybe Sugar Labs could host, cms like drupal or joomla for Local Labs use, Would be this an overhead for our young infrastructure ? Is it better to Local Labs to have this kind of solutions sorted out locally ? Cheers! Rafael Ortiz

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 03:57:05PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 11.02.2009, at 10:59, Morgan Collett wrote: etoys This is packaged, but I think we're still missing a bit - the actual sugar activity for etoys. I don't personally have the

Re: [IAEP] Static services for Local Labs

2009-02-11 Thread Luke Faraone
On 2/11/09, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero dir...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all. I was thinking that maybe Sugar Labs could host, cms like drupal or joomla for Local Labs use, Would be this an overhead for our young infrastructure ? Is it better to Local Labs to have this kind of solutions

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Keep tabs on Sugar development

2009-02-11 Thread Bernie Innocenti
2009/2/10 Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com: PS- If you don't have an RSS reader already, try out Google Reader. Its List view works pretty well for this feed. RSS support in Thunderbird is also very good. Simon Schampijer wrote: Awesome, one missing piece for me! Can we add a tip somewhere in

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Static services for Local Labs

2009-02-11 Thread Sebastian Silva
I see your point about CMS being overkill. And I also agree with you, the release cycle anchors everything. I for one consider it a bug, not a feature, that we have this division of channels of communication, as some of the aspects you relate should be feeding each other more. It is natural

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-11 Thread Luke Faraone
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Debian POV: Someone needs to volunteer packaging sugar-etoys-activity. Drop an email to debian-olpc-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org . Ubuntu POV: Someone needs to volunteer hacking[1] together a sugar activity package

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Static services for Local Labs

2009-02-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Maybe the issue here is that local labs have a much broader scope than the global Sugar Labs? I see local labs having something to say about everything that the global Sugar Labs does, but not the other way around. Regards, Tomeu On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 17:35, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Static services for Local Labs

2009-02-11 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Maybe the issue here is that local labs have a much broader scope than the global Sugar Labs? I agree completely. Hopefully the local labs will focus in on a particular area of the sugar ecosystem. A testing lab, a

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Static services for Local Labs

2009-02-11 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 18:29, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Maybe the issue here is that local labs have a much broader scope than

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-11 Thread Luke Faraone
On 2/11/09, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 11:24:20AM -0500, Luke Faraone wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Debian POV: Someone needs to volunteer packaging

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-11 Thread Luke Faraone
On 2/11/09, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 11:24:20AM -0500, Luke Faraone wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Debian POV: Someone needs to volunteer packaging

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 01:38:27PM -0500, Luke Faraone wrote: On 2/11/09, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 11:24:20AM -0500, Luke Faraone wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-11 Thread Luke Faraone
On Feb 11, 2009, at 2:17 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 01:38:27PM -0500, Luke Faraone wrote: On 2/11/09, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 11:24:20AM -0500, Luke Faraone wrote:

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 02:26:28PM -0500, Luke Faraone wrote: On Feb 11, 2009, at 2:17 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 01:38:27PM -0500, Luke Faraone wrote: 1) You consider packaging Pippy and sugar-base my way

Re: [IAEP] Thanks page

2009-02-11 Thread Gary C Martin
On 9 Feb 2009, at 16:41, Gary C Martin wrote: On 9 Feb 2009, at 02:35, David Farning wrote: I took another stab at the thank you page tonight. Added some logos and whatnot:) http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/ThankYou Are we missing any sponsors? Is Christian working on Pentagram time

Re: [IAEP] Thanks page

2009-02-11 Thread Walter Bender
much better!!! -walter On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 9 Feb 2009, at 16:41, Gary C Martin wrote: On 9 Feb 2009, at 02:35, David Farning wrote: I took another stab at the thank you page tonight. Added some logos and whatnot:)

Re: [IAEP] XOCamp diplomas? + beg for housing

2009-02-11 Thread Luis Michelena
I was to get mine or andres's while there, is there any chance that you could mail(better if using pom ;) ) them to me, because in uruguay is as bad as jameson said. Greets, Luis On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Samuel Klein s...@laptop.org wrote: Hi Jameson, On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:19 AM,

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-11 Thread Luke Faraone
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: No need to get into details of what exactly is flawed with my packaging style, or how you would do things differently: I'm just trying to see if I'm missing something as far as the workflow. Simply put, the commands given

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Static services for Local Labs

2009-02-11 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
Yes, I guess there is no problem with this, with the already given infrastructure give by SL is more than enough. Local Labs are independent enough to manage to have other services. Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:48 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.orgwrote: On Thu, Feb 12, 2009

[IAEP] Fwd: [PyCon-Organizers] Open government sprint?

2009-02-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
Is anybody going to PyCon? We have booth space and could use coders and mentors for the sprints. -- Forwarded message -- From: Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [PyCon-Organizers] Open government sprint? To: Jacob Kaplan-Moss

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 03:38:04PM -0500, Luke Faraone wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: No need to get into details of what exactly is flawed with my packaging style, or how you would do things

Re: [IAEP] Fwd: [PyCon-Organizers] Open government sprint?

2009-02-11 Thread Greg Dekoenigsberg
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009, Edward Cherlin wrote: Is anybody going to PyCon? We have booth space and could use coders and mentors for the sprints. I will be there. --g ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [IAEP] Thanks page

2009-02-11 Thread Sean DALY
Looks good Gary! On my small (800x600) laptop screen the FSF logo overflows to the right, but that's a nitpick. Thanks. On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 9 Feb 2009, at 16:41, Gary C Martin wrote: On 9 Feb 2009, at 02:35, David Farning wrote: I

[IAEP] partner brainstorming

2009-02-11 Thread David Farning
I know this sounds very unlike me. I am a big fan on actionable items:) Can you'all help brain storm about possible partners with which Sugar labs can have a mutually beneficial relationship? Early adopters in education, OEMs, VARs, ISVs Let's hear your list of organization and thoughts as

Re: [IAEP] What's going on with Text To Speech on the XO?

2009-02-11 Thread Samuel Klein
Hemant, Tomeu, Assim and all, Has there been any progress on TTS since last summer? I'd love to see this project move forward. Prabhas has also indicated some interest in working on language-learning support, which is directly related... It would also be nice to have Listen and Spell among the

[IAEP] Our first employee, sort of

2009-02-11 Thread David Farning
I would like to announce that due to a generous donation from Solution Grove and some hard work by Caroline Meeks we are in the process of hiring our first employee! Terri is a graduate student at the Harvard School of Education. She will be spending the semester developing teacher training

Re: [IAEP] partner brainstorming

2009-02-11 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
+1 Speaking of which, we should also be thinking in rules of give-get from each partner, stuff like gold, silver..etc partnership. Would be nice to hear about how other .orgs manage these rules. My two cents. Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:22 PM, David Farning

Re: [IAEP] partner brainstorming

2009-02-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 3:22 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: I know this sounds very unlike me. I am a big fan on actionable items:) Can you'all help brain storm about possible partners with which Sugar labs can have a mutually beneficial relationship? Early adopters in