Re: Geography Dispersed Parallel Sysplex Question

2005-07-01 Thread John Ticic
--- snip --- GDPS/PPRC is not supported at that distance. Do you mean GDPS/XRC? We are the latter at a distance of 500 miles. I posted more information about this a few weeks ago when I recommended staying with one vendor for both sides of the COMM pipe. The growth in storage is an issue. If I buy

Re: Other DASD Erase programs

2005-07-01 Thread Bill Fairchild
In a message dated 6/30/2005 9:52:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I went back to check the source code for the program I have for doing this level of 'CLEARING' a DASD. It does indeed write a record to allow the DASD to be used by subsequent users. Very good.

Re: Geography Dispersed Parallel Sysplex Question

2005-07-01 Thread Richards.Bob
John, The issues have not been with the receiving DASD, they have been with the sending DASD. We are planning to swap out the sending DASD to end up with one vendor. We do FlashCopy the secondary DASD. We do have the XRC feature on the secondary DASD for reverse mirroring. We have successfully

IPCS to view VTAM Dump

2005-07-01 Thread mary george
All, Can any one guide me on how to use IPCS on VTAM dump? Thanks in advance Regards, Mary __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Re: IBM VSAM Statistics are often Bogus

2005-07-01 Thread john gilmore
Joel C. Ewing writes: This also suggests that calling the statistics INVALID may be too strong a pejorative, as all the counts reflect actual activity to the file - it's just that they do not represent ALL the activity to the file. and there is a perspective from which his view has merit.

Re: IBM VSAM Statistics are often Bogus

2005-07-01 Thread Ted MacNEIL
... This also suggests that calling the statistics INVALID may be too strong a pejorative, as all the counts reflect actual activity to the file - it's just that they do not represent ALL the activity to the file. ... If they do not represent ALL, how can you use them to make a decision? You

Configuring TWS in sysplex

2005-07-01 Thread Roy Verweij
Hi, Our company is currently working on installing multiple sysplexes. Eventually it should look something like this: Production sysplex: Prod1 - Prod2 QA sysplex: QA1 - QA2 Test sysplex: Test1 - Test2 The following thing makes me wonder if other shops out there have experiences (good or bad)

Re: BOOKMGR PDF support

2005-07-01 Thread Matt Simpson
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:18:35 -0700, Edward E. Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They can indeed be stored in MVS data sets. An extended shelf is not necessary if you have a PDF that corresponds to a BOOK. In that case, the normal bookshelf will suffice to describe them both. An extended shelf is

Proper 'legacy' code

2005-07-01 Thread Perryman, Brian
I've just been exploring some of the more dustier and cob-webbed 'corridors' (well, disk volumes, to be precise) in the great mansion that is my mainframe, and opened some PDS source libraries that have obviously been lying around a while. Just found some members in there that have 'created'

Re: Another OS/390 to z/OS 1.4 migration question (COBOL)

2005-07-01 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 1, 2005, at 12:43 AM, Joe Zitzelberger wrote: SNIP Ideally you would find them working in the industry for at least 3-5 years after successfully completing formal training in computer science at some university, technical school, military, et al.

Re: StorageTek NCS V5

2005-07-01 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 01:15:13 +0200, Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our MVS folks working on the NCS 6.1 upgrade. Roland, let me know how that upgrade goes. I was unofficially warned aginst going to 6.1 (although that was several months ago), so we are sticking with

Re: IPCS to view VTAM Dump

2005-07-01 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
mary george wrote: Can any one guide me on how to use IPCS on VTAM dump? These books might help: LY43-0090 z/OS Communication Server SNA Data Areas Volume 1 LY43-0091 z/OS Communication Server SNA Data Areas Volume 2 LY43-0088 z/OS Communication Server SNA Diagnosis Volume 1 LY43-0089

Re: HSM statistics

2005-07-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/30/2005 at 12:00 AM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: In the fact that SMF takes the data from the JFCB, yes. The JFCB has nothing to do with JES. The above is an out of context quote. It shows what you wanted to say, rather than what I said. Huh? How is To

Re: HSM statistics

2005-07-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/30/2005 at 03:16 PM, Edward E. Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: *$L2=USSPO,HDZ11H0,010625,SJPLGEC: BPAM USS DIRECTORY SUPPORT @L2A I read that as June, 2001. Thanks. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: SVC 99 Question (sort of) File Creation Date Needed via ASM - PART 2

2005-07-01 Thread Bill Fairchild
In a message dated 7/1/2005 9:14:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First feed the DSName into a LOCATE macro, and out comes the volser(s). Can he get rid of the dynamic allocation he's doing, or does he need it to retrieve potentially migrated data sets? He might

Re: Couple of questions on JES2 output handling

2005-07-01 Thread Bill Fairchild
In a message dated 7/1/2005 9:23:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There won't be any politics involved either, it's just basic law enforcement. Not even politicians are above the law. Are they. Some will always be above the law; e.g., those who make laws usually

Re: Need pointer to another listserv

2005-07-01 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
My bad - I got two replies back on my earlier request but managed to delete one of them. I still have the reply from Mark Regan (Thanks, by the way), but whoever sent me the other reply regarding a listserv for WebSphere, could you resend it? Thanks. Rex -Original Message- From:

Re: StorageTek NCS V5

2005-07-01 Thread Matt Simpson
On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 08:47:25 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Roland, let me know how that upgrade goes. I was unofficially warned aginst going to 6.1 (although that was several months ago), so we are sticking with 6.0 still for now. Any specific problems with 6.1, or just a general

New book in the works

2005-07-01 Thread Matthew Stitt
If you go to the Z/OS publications pages, there is a recent pointer to a new book in the works: Introduction to the New Mainframe: Z/OS Basics == SG24-6366 It's still in Draft mode, with a date of May 27, 2005 (so far). http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/zoslib/pdf/zosbasic.pdf

Re: Couple of questions on JES2 output handling

2005-07-01 Thread Kirk Talman
the pup would like to know your source for such elegant quotes. Bill Fairchild (7/1/2005 10:29 AM) wrote: .. .. .. [Anacharsis] laughed at him [Solon] for imagining the dishonesty and covetousness of his countrymen could be restrained by written laws, which were like spiders' webs, and would

Re: Couple of questions on JES2 output handling

2005-07-01 Thread Bill Fairchild
In a message dated 7/1/2005 10:51:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the pup would like to know your source for such elegant quotes. I replied via private email to this lest the thread be overloaded and shut down. Suffice it to say that my source was NOT an IBM

Finding Nucleus module name

2005-07-01 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
I have an address in the extended nucleus. Is there any way to determine which module it is in? The only sophisticated tool on my 2.10 system is Omegamon II. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: Need pointer to another listserv

2005-07-01 Thread Craig Kittendorf
It wasn't me, but you might try USERS.WEBSPHERE.ORG: To subscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the command (paste it!): SUBSCRIBE WEBSPHERE Craig -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R. Sent: Friday, July

Might Keep IBM out of Bankruptsy

2005-07-01 Thread Ed Gould
Bulletin: Microsoft To Pay IBM $775M In Antitrust Settlement Microsoft and IBM have agreed on a $775 million settlement in IBM's private antitrust case against Microsoft. http://www.computerworld.com/newsletter/0,4902,102916,00.html?nlid=BNA

Re: Finding Nucleus module name

2005-07-01 Thread Craddock, Chris
See NUCLKUP BYADDR in the asm ref, -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Schwarz, Barry A Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 12:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Finding Nucleus module name I have an address in the extended

Re: Finding Nucleus module name

2005-07-01 Thread John P Kalinich
Try the MXI NUC command at http://www.rocketsoftware.com. MXI is freeware. Regards, John Kalinich Conmputer Sciences Corp Schwarz, Barry

Re: Need pointer to another listserv

2005-07-01 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hmm. Let me change you question. Where could I look for a message recently posted? For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Thanks, Sam

Re: Need pointer to another listserv

2005-07-01 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Knutson, Sam wrote: Hmm. Let me change you question. Where could I look for a message recently posted? What if he was referring to an off-list reply? -- - | Edward E. Jaffe|

Re: Finding Nucleus module name

2005-07-01 Thread Bill Fairchild
In a message dated 7/1/2005 12:04:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have an address in the extended nucleus. Is there any way to determine which module it is in? The only sophisticated tool on my 2.10 system is Omegamon II. Pretty sure TMON/MVS can do it. It

Re: Need pointer to another listserv

2005-07-01 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/1/2005 12:24:37 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm. Let me change you question. Where could I look for a message recently posted? There's also the archives at bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html posted at the bottom of every post. Can do by

Re: SDSF Question - Selection of members to be displayed in the diffe rent panels

2005-07-01 Thread Rob Wunderlich
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 08:36:29 -0400, Stocker, Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In SDSF I have set as: PREFIX=* DEST=(ALL) OWNER=HERMAN SORT=End-Date//D End-Time//D SYSNAME= If I change the set the prefix to a job name and level the owner the display is empty. Not until I have set the owner to

Re: IBM wins $850M from M$!

2005-07-01 Thread Bill Fairchild
Now IBM can afford to implement all the wonderful ideas on this list, such as unbogusizing VSAM statistics and bringing all the outsourced jobs home. Yaayyy!!! Bill Fairchild -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: IBM wins $850M from M$!

2005-07-01 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Fairchild Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 12:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM wins $850M from M$! Now IBM can afford to implement all the wonderful ideas on this

Re: Need pointer to another listserv

2005-07-01 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
OK. 50 lashes with the wet noodle. I am new to this list as well and haven't used the archives - in fact completely forgot they are there. I am duly chastened. -Original Message- From: Ed Finnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 12:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU

Re: SVC 99 Question (sort of) File Creation Date Needed via ASM - PART 2

2005-07-01 Thread Dan
Couldn't he use the catalog CSI to get the DSCRDT2 (cataloged date)? Of course this will be incorrect if the data set gets re-cataloged at a later date. DanD Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:24 AM Subject: Re:

Re: StorageTek NCS V6.1 (was StorageTek NCS V5)

2005-07-01 Thread Alan C. Field
Very timely posts. I just got NCS 6.1 loaded down. Waiting for the VM side to verify the toleration mtce is on before I start it up on the TEST LPAR. Roland's post is a good heads up. Alan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: IBM VSAM Statistics are often Bogus

2005-07-01 Thread Gibney, Dave
If a number less than ALL indicates a need for action, then surely the greater number which would represent ALL if known could indicate a greater need for action. Now, I really don't know how the statistics in question, even when accurate, translate into a need for action. But someone may have

Re: StorageTek NCS V5

2005-07-01 Thread ibm-main
We got a similar whisper with 5.0/5.1 - but was rescinded within a couple of months. We had to get V6 installed in a bit of a hurry when it was made known that a 8500 was about to come in the door, and needed a LIBGEN. Haven't had any problems with that, haven't looked at 6.1 yet. Shane ...

Re: IBM VSAM Statistics are often Bogus

2005-07-01 Thread Ted MacNEIL
... If a number less than ALL indicates a need for action, then surely the greater number which would represent ALL if known could indicate a greater need for action. Now, I really don't know how the statistics in question, even when accurate, translate into a need for action. But someone may

Re: StorageTek NCS V5

2005-07-01 Thread Mark Zelden
On Sat, 2 Jul 2005 05:00:10 +1000, ibm-main [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We got a similar whisper with 5.0/5.1 - but was rescinded within a couple of months. Just the opposite here. When were ready to migrate from 4.1, we were told not to trust a release ending in 0 and waited for 5.1. We had to

Re: IBM VSAM Statistics are often Bogus

2005-07-01 Thread Ron and Jenny Hawkins
Isn't that why we have an SMF Type 64 record? The delta in the LISTCAT VSAM statistics correctly reflects the activity to the VSAM data set between two points in time, as long as you compare between two points where the VSAM file is closed and also know there are no intervening OPENs

Re: ESCON to FICON conversion(R)

2005-07-01 Thread Ron and Jenny Hawkins
2GB/sec, but not if you want to use more than 5 at a time... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Alford Sent: Thursday, 30 June 2005 11:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: ESCON to FICON conversion(R) If your

Re: Flashcopy question

2005-07-01 Thread Ron and Jenny Hawkins
HDS's Shadowimage has had Consistency Groups for almost two years now, and it is implemented in the hardware. There is also AT-Time Split for Shadowimage which gives you point in time consistency across multiple boxes - also implemented in the hardware. Other solutions: I didn't know about

Re: IPCS to view VTAM Dump

2005-07-01 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 03:24:51 -0700, mary george [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Can any one guide me on how to use IPCS on VTAM dump? ... That's a bit too vague of a question. Is this an abend dump? A console dump to get: config data? VTAM internal trace data? to find a VTAM loop? VERBX VTAMMAP

Re: IPCS to view VTAM Dump

2005-07-01 Thread ibm-main
From: Patrick O'Keefe If my shop had ordered the licensed doc I could be more specific. (:-( With z/OS it's all up on Resoucelink these days Pat. An access code would have been shipped with the order - dial in and download it yourself. Talk to the (MVS) guys that do the SMP work. Shane ...

Re: IBM wins $850M from M$!

2005-07-01 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 1, 2005, at 12:32 PM, Bill Fairchild wrote: Now IBM can afford to implement all the wonderful ideas on this list, such as unbogusizing VSAM statistics and bringing all the outsourced jobs home. Yaayyy!!! Bill, and in addition putting back jobcat/stepcat. Ed

Re: StorageTek NCS V5

2005-07-01 Thread Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc
Well I don't care about the .0 or .1 :-)) I care about the orphan ESCA (memory leak) I seen. Hopefully this will be fixed in 6.0 or 6.1. I share all the info regarding this topic with our StorageTek guy and he listen and is surprised about the SL8500 problems. Thanks a lot for this info !!!

SHOWzOS V711 is now available

2005-07-01 Thread Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc
Hi folks, Sam Golob done a great job and SHOWzOS is now available. I verified the archive and it looks fine. FILE#492 contain the source among others FILE#614 contain several LOAD version in case of older HLASM versions or other back level issues. www.cbttape.org V712 is still under

Re: SDSF Question - Selection of members to be displayed in the diffe rent panels

2005-07-01 Thread Skip Robinson
The problem in practice with filtering mechanisms like PREFIX, DEST, OWNER, as well as the much more powerful FILTER command, is that the settings are pervasive across displays and across sessions (saved in your profile). I found years ago that nine times out of ten, I needed to look at an 'out

Re: StorageTek NCS V5

2005-07-01 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
why ? i'm now doing 6.1 in a hurry ... - ravi. Mark Zelden wrote: On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 01:15:13 +0200, Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our MVS folks working on the NCS 6.1 upgrade. Roland, let me know how that upgrade goes. I was unofficially warned aginst

Re: Another OS/390 to z/OS 1.4 migration question (COBOL)

2005-07-01 Thread Joe Zitzelberger
On Jul 1, 2005, at 7:51 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/30/2005 at 10:55 PM, Joe Zitzelberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: TSO/ISPF is about as least common denominator as you can get. The Sun rises in the East. ISPF is not the issue. The issue is the contents