thanks to all who answered my query.
Bill Fairchild [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 7/19/2005 7:29:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
When will a STAE retry routine issue an abend?
You have to write your own STAE, ESTAE, or ESTAEX routine. If you
Finally the problem is solved!
There was two errors:
1.- The fields for key lengths, when keys are labels, must be set to 64,
instead of the label length.
2.- The enciphered key I was trying to decipher was not ciphered in
PCKS-1.2.
The question now is...why are the messages/return codes so
David Alcock wrote:
In the Java world, there is a term called deprecated for older
API calls that still work but newer replacement ones are
available. Here's one explanation:
http://www.mindprod.com/jgloss/deprecated.html
This term has been used for quite some time in the mainframe
Hi Scott,
When you issue spawn() a new process is created.
There is a C USS service named w_getpsent() you can use to get a lot of
information about a process including the user CPU time of the process.
Gil.
On 7/19/05, Jackson, Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All,
(Cross posted to
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In a message dated 7/19/2005 10:08:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
AFAIK MVS still menas Multiple Virtual Space
Close. It means Multiple Virtual Storage. Each view of virtual storage
was
It is 65,520.
Kees
See:
IBM APAR OA07687, one of several required for -54 support, says
* PROBLEM DESCRIPTION: New function support for the IBM *
* TotalStorage DS6000 and DS8000 *
* servers ( D/T1750 D/T2107 ) along *
* with the IBM TotalStorage ESS *
* D/T2105 model 800. *
* *
* This APAR
So you don't have online SAS TSO users, or do they also have to run on the
separate machine?
Kees.
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Same here. SAS runs on seperated image due to software costs. Also using
SASLPA.
cross-posted to IBM-MAIN and ASSEMBLER-LIST
Hi folks,
we are considering using WSED for our (heavily HLASM-based) development. We
have looked into the documentation etc. but we would like to hear from any
experiences with the product.
Especially, the following questions have arised:
1. Is
...
I am quite sure it means Multiple Virtual Storages
...
Now that is incorrect English.
Storage is both the singular and
the plural.
MVS: 'Multiple Virtual Storage'
-teD
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All others bring data!
-- W. Edwards Deming
All right... I'll say it... just because no-one else has...
I always understood it was Man Versus System
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Ted MacNEIL
Sent: 20 July 2005 01:00
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: capacity of
What is the world coming to ...
*this* group, in *this* industry arguing about one of *THE* most basic of
TLAs
dear, oh dear ...
Shane ...
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All right... I'll say it... just because no-one else has...
I always understood it was Man Versus System
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What is the world coming to ...
*this* group, in *this* industry arguing about one of *THE* most basic of
TLAs
dear, oh dear ...
Shane ...
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All right... I'll say it... just because no-one else has...
I always understood it was Man Versus System
-
John Baker wrote:
ECKD architecture provides for a maximum track (head) number of 65535.
It also provides for a maximum track capacity of 16777215 bytes.
All things considered, the maximum configuration for a single addressable
device is 2**56 bytes - 2*32 bytes.
The number of records per
De La Fuente Seivane, Victor wrote:
The question now is...why are the messages/return codes so general? I think
my two errors are quite different, but the message is the same for each
one...(I solved problem 1 some days ago but the error message did not
change!)
my humble private opinion
ICSF
Well, at least you still know correct pronuniation ;)
Last time I heard CC pontificate, he used z.ugh
From Bob Rogers, I can accept it - he probably doesn't know any better.
Marna tries her best when down under, but still slips up...:o)
BTW both are due in Sydney next
Hello Fred,
we are also analyzing the reports of VLF and we have seen high trimming for
2 hours/day. At COFVLF we have MAXVIRT(16384) - 64Mb!!
Which is your MAXVIRT?
Regards
Christian Blesa
Operating Systems
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I always understood it was Man Versus System
...
“Moves Very Slowly”
From the Company:
“Incomplete But Markettable”
(8-{]}
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Well, at least you still know correct pronuniation ;)
Last time I heard CC pontificate, he used z.ugh !!!
...
Only one country in the world that uses “zee”.
Only one country in the world that spells “CICS”.
(My kids use both “zee” “zed” interchangably having grown up within
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/19/2005
at 09:13 AM, Bill Fairchild [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
You did.
No I didn't. Read my message more carefully.
If it begins at the level of an atrocity and then gets worse,
Then it's a worse atrocity. Even were you to convince me that worse
than atrocious
Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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..
I am quite sure it means Multiple Virtual Storages
..
Now that is incorrect English.
Storage is both the singular and
the plural.
MVS: 'Multiple Virtual Storage'
Well, IBM was not too sure about this in
...
Well, IBM was not too sure about this in the beginning.
...
IBM is an American country, they didn't invent the language; they just
(mis-)use it.
(8-{]}
-teD
In God we Trust!
All others bring data!
-- W. Edwards Deming
It was pointed out in an earlier message that the count area uses a 2-byte
field for the data length, so let's consider the capacity using that
limitation.
The maximum track capacity is then 65,535 bytes.
The maximum number of tracks per cylinder is 65,535.
The maximum number of cylinders per
Hello,
I regenerated the IODF and received message CBDA333I (token not given).
So advise me to put my own token or to ignore this message.
Thank you for help
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I still migrating a Multiprise 3000 to a 2086 (Z890 Family).
Does someone have bad experiences during IPL : problem with memery, couple
dataset, etc
Any infos or advises could help me.
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John P Baker wrote:
[...]
You are correct that DASD manufacturers do not currently provide emulation
for 64K heads. However, PC DASD manufacturers have provided emulation for
256 tracks / cylinder for years. No hardware change is required here. Just
some revised microcode.
Not exactly.
Just
Chapter 8 of the Communications Server for z/OS V1R2 TCP/IP
Implementation Guide: Volume 4 has details on z/OS and EIGRP
interoperability. The publication number is SG24-6516, and you can find
it online at http://www.redbooks.ibm.com .
EIGRP is a Cisco-proprietary protocol and not, to my
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 09:33:19 +0200, Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So you don't have online SAS TSO users, or do they also have to run on the
separate machine?
We do and yes, they have to logon to TSO on that LPAR. So add those
numbers into the equation also for storage savings
Well, at least you still know correct pronuniation ;)
Last time I heard CC pontificate, he used z ugh
John doesn't live in thelandathafree. Here it is zeee and
you get used to saying it that way or you will spend a lot of
time saying it three four or five times in response
Dear list,
I have two jobs which run weekly. The first dumps
physically a volume to tape. JCL follow:
//ST01 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//TAPE DD DSN=my_dsn(+1),
// DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),UNIT=our_vts,
// DCB=(JGE.MOD,BLKSIZE=19000)
//SYSINDD *
Specify two DD names in the OUTDD parameter to create both
copies at the same time, and eliminate the IEBGENER.
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Walter Marguccio wrote:
Dear list,
I have two jobs which run weekly. The first dumps
physically a volume to tape. JCL follow:
//ST01 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//TAPE DD DSN=my_dsn(+1),
// DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),UNIT=our_vts,
//
So when I look at my IBM software list, I have the following:
COBOL Full Function Product Number - 5655G53
VS COBOL II Comp Lib and Debug Product Number - 5668958
Should I be able to drop the Debug from the VS COBOL II product?
On Jul 20, 2005, at 4:54 AM, R.S. wrote:
-SNIP-
I can see small one: nobody uses other geometry than 3390 (please,
let's forget 3380 and older stuff, I'm talking about life
datacenters, not musea).
z/OS does not support devices with 64k heads or 16M
...
Here it is zeee and
you get used to saying it that way or you will spend a lot of
time saying it three four or five times in response to puzzled
looks
...
When I deal with my American counterparts, I still say 'Zed' and I pronounce
rather than spell 'CICS'.
I also put all punctuation outside
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Larry Kraus
So when I look at my IBM software list, I have the following:
COBOL Full Function Product Number - 5655G53
VS COBOL II Comp Lib and DebugProduct Number - 5668958
Should I
The debug component of 5668958 was NOT the debug tool but was COBTEST
(which was a COBOL-specific debugger).
Are you REALLY still paying for that? If so, I would CERTAINLY drop it. In
fact, if you are still paying for the lib portion of that produce (and are
using LE as your run-time) you
Don't rely on IEBGENER to copy the DFDSS tapes; it will break your heart at the
worst possible moment.
Use copydump.
Its a failing of DFDSS that you can't use gener, but there it is.
Martin Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Specify two DD names in the OUTDD parameter to create both
copies at the
I know this is not related to IBM Mainframe talk, but back in the day we all
had those Star Trek lunches...
http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/07/20/obit.doohan.ap/index.html
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I believe that you can define a logical disk slightly larger (65536
cylinders) than a -54, for an absolute maximum capacity of
5.5703E+10.
Hopefully that is not true. IBM told us that 65520 would be the largest
definable disk volume.
--
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Senior Software Developer for FDR
I can see small one: nobody uses other geometry than 3390 (please,
let's forget 3380 and older stuff, I'm talking about life
datacenters, not musea).
I wish you were right, but you would be surprised how many customers we
run into still using 3380s (emulated, of course). Since z/OS and
- Original Message -
From: R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: IEBGENER and SDB
Walter Marguccio wrote:
Dear list,
I have two jobs which run weekly. The first dumps
physically a volume to tape. JCL follow:
SDB does not work for RECFM=U, which can't be blocked by definition.
The application (DSS in this case) controls the actually blocksize.
In any case, DSS writes blocks up to 64K (even though the DCB info says
32760). You can't copy a DSS backup (or an FDR backup) with IEBGENER,
the output
z/VSE (and predecessors) has supported 64K(i)B blocks/physical record size
for a long time, on tape and DASD. You can write full track records to a
SAM (non-VSAM-managed) file.
Later,
Ray
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Of Bruce
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 09:55:40 EDT, Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't think we'll see many converts unless they can offer a gaming
option, but the gamers are far out in front(as usual). The high
end games now run under DOS and manage the graphics and sound
themselves.
What high end games
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Bruce Black
Sent: Wednesday July 20 2005 09:30
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: capacity of largest drive
The maximum track capacity is then 65,535 bytes.
No, the max size of a
Hi all,
I would like to ask if it is possible to use one FICON cable for both
disk access and CTC. Of course it would be connected to SAN director
(Inrange) with FICON support.
I checked FICON Implementation redbook and they say
Unlike the ESCON channel CTC communication, which uses a pair of
As usual, when I ask question I find answer shortly after :)
This is from the same redbook
The FICON channel at each end of the FICON CTC connection, supporting the FCTC
control units, can also communicate with other FICON native control
units, such as disk
and tape.
So chpid is type FC and then
We recently migrated the same route. Only major noticeable area was HSA.
Thanks
Natarajan
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Hello,
I still migrating a Multiprise 3000 to a 2086 (Z890 Family).
Does someone have bad experiences during IPL : problem with memery,
couple
dataset, etc
Any infos or
In a message dated 7/20/2005 11:10:24 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
had those Star Trek lunches...
Still got my Vulcan ears and dilithium diddy-boppersvbg
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In a message dated 7/20/2005 2:04:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
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Still got my Vulcan ears and dilithium diddy-boppers
I can't find my Captain Video decoder ring any more. :-(
Bill Fairchild
In a message dated 7/20/2005 12:21:27 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What high end games are you referring to here? The games written 10 years
ago? I doubt they would qualify as high end today. AFAIK, all current PC
I don't know, I'm not a high-end gamer. Was
You are correct, which brings back my original argument, which I must now
clarify.
The maximum track size support by the ECKD architecture is 16,777,215.
Within a track, the maximum data block size is 65,535.
So, what is the maximum capacity of a logical device supported by the ECKD
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 5:00 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: TLAs - was summit else entirely ...
(My kids use both zee zed interchangably having grown up within
90 km
LPARs often 'stabilize' while capped at a different MSU number than the
defined capacity setting. Sometimes a few MSUs higher, and sometimes a few
MSUs lower. SCRT never outputs a number higher than the defined capacity,
so if you stabilize a few MSUs high that is great and you are using
I understand that he had impure thoughts and therefore he got beamed down!
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In a message dated 7/20/2005 3:08:33 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I understand that he had impure thoughts and therefore he got beamed down!
Which way is down in n-dimensional space?
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In a recent note, John Baker said:
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:09:13 -0400
You are correct, which brings back my original argument, which I must now
clarify.
The maximum track size support by the ECKD architecture is 16,777,215.
My emulated calculator tells me 255 * 65535
In a recent note, Ed Finnell said:
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:08:23 EDT
In a message dated 7/20/2005 12:21:27 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
What high end games are you referring to here? The games written 10 years
ago? I doubt they would qualify as
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Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 3:25 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: capacity of largest drive
snip
Etc. I suspect that those who say increasing the 3390
On 20-Jul-2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted MacNEIL) wrote:
Only one country in the world that uses zee.
I've heard this - but I haven't checked with every English speaking country -
nor with all of the countries that have English as a secondary language. One
would think that Japanese Taiwanese,
First my apologies to the list(s) I had posted this question back at the
end of May,
and had received the answer I was looking for, which had 2 cables listed
one with the mini end etc.
problem is I can't find the response and do not remember who it was that
responded, so I am re-posting the
...
Still got my Vulcan ears and dilithium diddy-boppersvbg
...
I still have a Franklin Mint medallion commemorating the the first episode.
September 6, 1966.
It was one of the reasons I got fascinated with computers (to keep it on topic).
-teD
In God we Trust!
All others bring data!
-- W.
We still have our Mugs and Limited Edition Plates...
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Ted MacNEIL
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:00 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: It was his turn to be beamed up... :(
...
Still got my
...
It grated on my ears. CICS is should
not become a word.
...
Even Hersley (the IBM lab that wrote supports) CICS pronounces it.
Who should know better?
-teD
In God we Trust!
All others bring data!
-- W. Edwards Deming
Augie,
There is a note at the bottom of every email to this list with a link to the
archives home page. (see below) Just click on the link Search the
archives after you get there.
HTH,
Greg
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Behalf Of
Ted MacNEIL wrote:
...
It grated on my ears. CICS is should
not become a word.
...
Even Hersley (the IBM lab that wrote supports) CICS pronounces it.
Who should know better?
Agreed. And, by the same token, the people that named the operating
system z/OS are located in New York. How do
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Hello,
we don't found any answer about 'I have found comments in my current
customer's COFVLFxx member stating never place master catalogs under
VLF
by Kelvin Wells.
Not true - removed from Managing Catalog
On 19 Jul 2005 10:43:26 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
Actually the unused part of a disk address is the BIN number, also from
the noodle snatcher. M is used for the extent number now.
A full disk address is: MBBCCHHR
Today, the BB field has to be zeros. Using those two bytes
...
people that named the operating
system z/OS are located in New York. How do you suspect they pronounce it?
...
I pronounce it 'ZED - OH ESS',
but I work with a bunch from Buffalo.
The call it 'ZEE - OSS'.
-teD
In God we Trust!
All others bring data!
-- W. Edwards Deming
You are correct as far as it goes.
What you are not taking into consideration is the overhead applied by the DASD
controller to each physical block.
A complete calculation must take into consideration Record Zero + 255 Data
Areas + 255 Count Areas + (Optionally) 255 Key Areas + all of the
In a recent note, Ed Finnell said:
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:08:23 EDT
In a message dated 7/20/2005 12:21:27 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
What high end games are you referring to here? The games written 10 years
ago? I doubt they would qualify as
In a message dated 7/20/2005 2:08:27 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I can't find my Captain Video decoder ring any more. :-(
Did find the white rabbit and Carnac headpiece. Looks pretty
cool in the antique baby highchair...sorry, been down at
the police station
With a little coaxing, your job scheduler may even be able to do the
deed automatically.
HTH
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Compton, John
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 3:55 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Different
Ted MacNEIL wrote:
...
people that named the operating
system z/OS are located in New York. How do you suspect they pronounce it?
...
I pronounce it 'ZED - OH ESS',
but I work with a bunch from Buffalo.
The call it 'ZEE - OSS'.
The whims of a bunch of buffalo notwithstanding, the
...
The whims of a bunch of buffalo notwithstanding, the operating system is
pronounced zee-oh-ess.
...
Not in Canada!
IBM Canada is calling it 'zed-oh-ess'.
-teD
In God we Trust!
All others bring data!
-- W. Edwards Deming
Ted MacNeil writes:
Even Hersley [sic] (the IBM lab that wrote supports) CICS pronounces
it. Who should know
better?
and, Ted, if you're going to take positions on these niceties you must get
your facts right.
CICS is and has for long been maintained at Hursley with a 'u', but it
They have to pronounce it zeee Oh ess because when the tried to use zedoz
the lawyers said they would be in copyright infringement, sounded too close
to zardoz (Sean Connery movie) or perhaps the plot was too similar
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Agreed. And, by the same token, the people
In a message dated 7/20/2005 4:41:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
the operating system is
pronounced zee-oh-ess.
...
Not in Canada!
IBM Canada is calling it 'zed-oh-ess'.
I usually pronounce it emm-vee-ess and thus inadvertently manage to escape
the
Ted MacNEIL wrote:
...
The whims of a bunch of buffalo notwithstanding, the operating system is
pronounced zee-oh-ess.
...
Not in Canada!
IBM Canada is calling it 'zed-oh-ess'.
Yup. And, when I visit Mexico, they call me SANE-YOUR HAH-FAY.
--
I hate ZOSS, but ZEE OSS is even worse! grin
At least I can understand the reasoning behind ZED OH ESS
Bob
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Ted MacNEIL
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:00 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Mister Boss!
Senor Jefe...gracias por la risa. Necesité uno hoy (thanks for the laugh, I
needed one today).
Roberto
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Edward E. Jaffe
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 5:59 PM
To:
Noo, noo, noo, lass! Put the pritty Phaser doon, jist put it doon..
In a message dated 7/20/2005 3:08:33 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I understand that he had impure thoughts and therefore he got beamed down!
On Jul 20, 2005, at 11:37 AM, Thomas Conley wrote:
Rad,
Sorry, DFDSS overrides any blocksize and substitutes it with its own
blocksize. It used to fail if you specified blocksize. With
IEBGENER, you cannot specify BLKSIZE=0 for a RECFM=U file, you must
specify an explicit numeric
On Jul 20, 2005, at 3:24 PM, Ed Finnell wrote:
Which way is down in n-dimensional space?
Probably the same direction as the DFP people.
Ed
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The callable service IGWARLS allows an application program to query the
quiesce state of a VSAM RLS file. Is there a similar callable service (maybe
the
one CICS uses) to issue a quiesce/unquiesce command to SMSVSAM for a VSAM RLS
data set?
Thanks,
Ira Broussard
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