Re: TOD Clock the same as the BIOS clock in PCs?

2006-04-16 Thread Joel C. Ewing
The TOD clock on IBM mainframes is an 8-byte hardware register than can be stored by a special hardware instruction. It can be used to derive wall clock time, but its other function is to provide a unique time-stamp value that can be used for tracking and ordering system events. As such it co

Re: CC's new Job (Was: z/OS Apache?)

2006-04-16 Thread Gibney, Dave
I said it privately to Chris earlier, I'll say it publicly now. CC's moving to CA may very well change my recommendations that we switch back to the former Candle products at the end of our current contract with CA. We switched on a pure monetary basis a few years ago, and although the function

SMP/E Extensions (was: IBM Announces ...)

2006-04-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 22:57:56 -0300, Clark Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 5. Does SMP/E currently support being able to use RECEIVE, APPLY, > ACCEPT for all maintenance and does it finally recognize such things > as Dialog Tag Language Compiling in ISPF? One of my frustrations in > the ear

Re: CC's new Job (Was: z/OS Apache?)

2006-04-16 Thread Ed Gould
On Apr 16, 2006, at 7:57 PM, Edward Jaffe wrote: Ed Gould wrote: Two people (pods now?) have gone to the dark side. At least they didn't go to work for M$. When two of the smartest people in our industry -- individuals for whom I have the utmost admiration and respect (and consider fr

Re: IBM-MAIN and "punches" out of order (Was: Anquish of JCL)

2006-04-16 Thread Arthur T.
On 16 Apr 2006 18:11:01 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joel C. Ewing) wrote: Ibm-main is an unusual list on at least two counts A third count is that the edress is munged when echoed from the Listserv to Usenet (except a couple of t

Re: IBM-MAIN and "punches" out of order (Was: Anquish of JCL)

2006-04-16 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 4/16/2006 4:49:41 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Recently Seymours as well - well, apparently at least some of them. >> Yeah, like too kids squabbling over who can eat the most nettles... go ahead, just don't draw the rest of us in... ---

(fwd) RE: IBM Announces WebSphere Application Server V6.1 for z/OS

2006-04-16 Thread Clark Morris
On 13 Apr 2006 05:36:13 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Shannon) wrote: >>> We have not heard of any customers requiring >>>64-bit addressing in COBOL programs. If you have a need for that, >please >>>send your requirements to us with details about why 31-bit addressing >i

Re: IBM-MAIN and "punches" out of order (Was: Anquish of JCL)

2006-04-16 Thread Joel C. Ewing
John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote: Wade Curry wrote: Chris Mason([EMAIL PROTECTED])@Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 05:34:50PM +0200: Ted, You'll have to try harder with sorting out this timing issue with your ISP. It's quite impossible to follow a prize fight with the punches out of sequence. Chris Mason

Re: CC's new Job (Was: z/OS Apache?)

2006-04-16 Thread Edward Jaffe
Ed Gould wrote: Two people (pods now?) have gone to the dark side. At least they didn't go to work for M$. When two of the smartest people in our industry -- individuals for whom I have the utmost admiration and respect (and consider friends) -- leave one organization and join another, it

Old computers was (fwd) Re: Space in MB?

2006-04-16 Thread Clark Morris
On 16 Apr 2006 07:04:58 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) wrote: >In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >on 04/12/2006 > at 12:00 AM, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >>Actually on disk it's KB. > >On the mainframe. In the PC world it might be KKB, KiKiB, MB,

Re: IBM-MAIN and "punches" out of order (Was: Anquish of JCL)

2006-04-16 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Ted's posts have been out of time order for a while. Recently Seymours as well - well, apparently at least some of them. RIM's Waterloo Site has had documented problems since I subscribed in August 2004. I'm still waiting for them to get off their DONKEY and fix it. Maybe NTP had something to do

Re: IBM-MAIN and "punches" out of order (Was: Anquish of JCL)

2006-04-16 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
Wade Curry wrote: Chris Mason([EMAIL PROTECTED])@Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 05:34:50PM +0200: Ted, You'll have to try harder with sorting out this timing issue with your ISP. It's quite impossible to follow a prize fight with the punches out of sequence. Chris Mason I have noticed that the repl

Re: CC's new Job (Was: z/OS Apache?)

2006-04-16 Thread Shane
On Sun, 2006-04-16 at 08:44 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: ... > Did anyone happen to notice Chris' new e-mail address? He a "Big Whig" > at CA now. C'mon mate, stay on the ball - have a look at the bottom of this post. http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0604&L=ibm-main&P=R40421&I=1 Chris came out

Re: IBM-MAIN and "punches" out of order (Was: Anquish of JCL)

2006-04-16 Thread Shane
On Sun, 2006-04-16 at 13:56 -0700, Wade Curry wrote: > I have noticed that the replies are often out of order on this > list. Ted's posts have been out of time order for a while. Recently Seymours as well - well, apparently at least some of them. Shane ... --

Re: IBM-MAIN and "punches" out of order (Was: Anquish of JCL)

2006-04-16 Thread Wade Curry
Chris Mason([EMAIL PROTECTED])@Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 05:34:50PM +0200: > Ted, > > You'll have to try harder with sorting out this timing issue with your ISP. > It's quite impossible to follow a prize fight with the punches out of > sequence. > > Chris Mason > I have noticed that the replies are

Re: DNS Steup

2006-04-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 11:48:20 -0700, Edward Jaffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We host the Bind 9 DNS for our intranet on z/OS. When it comes > I see BIND supports an interface to an external DB back end. Are you using DB2? LDAP? Other? Just curious, gil -- StorageTek INFORMATION made POWERF

Re: DNS Steup

2006-04-16 Thread Edward Jaffe
Rick Fochtman wrote: Could one of you fine ladies or gentlemen contact me off-list about setting up a Domain Name Server under Windows XP? I'm trying to get several MVS-type images and Windoze images talking to each other and the numeric addresses are killing me, from pure and simple confusion.

DNS Steup

2006-04-16 Thread Rick Fochtman
Could one of you fine ladies or gentlemen contact me off-list about setting up a Domain Name Server under Windows XP? I'm trying to get several MVS-type images and Windoze images talking to each other and the numeric addresses are killing me, from pure and simple confusion. --- [This E-mail has b

Re: CC's new Job (Was: z/OS Apache?)

2006-04-16 Thread Ed Gould
On Apr 16, 2006, at 10:44 AM, Edward Jaffe wrote: --SNIP--- Well said, Chris! (No surprise there.) Did anyone happen to notice Chris' new e-mail address? He a "Big Whig" at CA now. (A Senior VP!) We hung out last week at the TDM in Poughkeepsie. He

CC's new Job (Was: z/OS Apache?)

2006-04-16 Thread Edward Jaffe
Craddock, Chris wrote: Ok, on this I would have to respectfully disagree. In a recent former life my team ported Apache to z/OS and wired it up to be integrated with security etc. Apache is a very nice piece of software, but like almost all other *IX programs, it is not "shaped" well to run on z

Re: Fw: Anquish of JCL (Was: Migrating me from linux/bsd to zOS)

2006-04-16 Thread Chris Mason
Ted, You'll have to try harder with sorting out this timing issue with your ISP. It's quite impossible to follow a prize fight with the punches out of sequence. Chris Mason - Original Message - From: "Ted MacNEIL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Sunday,

Re: Abend code in AUTOOPER in IPL

2006-04-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 04/13/2006 at 03:05 PM, Ulrich Krueger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >When you run a started task under "SUB=MSTR", this task can not >allocate a SYSOUT dataset to be spooled to JES2. It can if it's coded properly. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT

Re: Fw: Anquish of JCL (Was: Migrating me from linux/bsd to zOS)

2006-04-16 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Are you drunk, That's it! When you cannot tackle the argument, tackle the arguer. That is one of the most insulting comments I have ever heard from a so-called professional. You obviously did not want to see my point. Not everybody is as learned and professional as you, Seymour. Not everybo

Re: Fw: Anquish of JCL (Was: Migrating me from linux/bsd to zOS)

2006-04-16 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>>My point was that all OS's have a LIST command. >Your point is in error. You deliberately chopped my message to make it look like an error. Name one OS that does not allow you to display the contents of a file to your screen, and also is a productive OS. >>I was told that LIST was an invalid

Re: Cancel a job after 10 min runtime

2006-04-16 Thread Ted MacNEIL
> It is a test environment, no any load, and we would like to see the CPU > consumtion of a server application ( a long running server) in a given time > intervall I don't understand this requirement. If there are spare cycles, give them to the batch jobs. Don't cancel them after 10 elapsed min

Re: Migrating me from linux/bsd to zOS

2006-04-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 04/12/2006 at 03:25 PM, Charles Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >What's the name of the TSO add-on product that includes COPY? TSO Data Set Utilities: COPY, FORMAT, LIST and MERGE >It's not in the bibliography of the TSO commands manual under >related publications

Re: Moving BACK to the mainframe

2006-04-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 04/13/2006 at 08:01 PM, Brian Westerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I have been reading this string with a lot of interest. For the past >10 years or so, the company I work for has made a LOT of money moving >people "BACK to the mainframe" after their failed attempts

Re: Space in MB?

2006-04-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 04/12/2006 at 12:00 AM, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Actually on disk it's KB. On the mainframe. In the PC world it might be KKB, KiKiB, MB, or (bletch) KKiB), with noi designation of which is intended. Then there's the old formatted versus unformatted que

Re: Fw: Anquish of JCL (Was: Migrating me from linux/bsd to zOS)

2006-04-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 04/13/2006 at 12:00 AM, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Excuse me? >List/type/cat displays a file to the STDOUT. Neither list nor type are cat, and cat does *not* display a file; it copies a sequence of files to STDOUT. >Are you saying that that is an incorre

Re: Looking for binary to character translation utility

2006-04-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 04/12/2006 at 06:13 PM, Charles Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Yeah, e-mail attachments are base 64, right? Or QP or 8BIT, depending on the CTE header fields. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Fw: Anquish of JCL (Was: Migrating me from linux/bsd to zOS)

2006-04-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 04/13/2006 at 12:00 AM, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >My point was that all OS's have a LIST command. Your point is in error. >I was told that LIST was an invalid description of what the command >did. What word would you pick? For cat? Catenate. That's wha

Re: Cancel a job after 10 min runtime

2006-04-16 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi It is a test environment, no any load, and we would like to see the CPU consumtion of a server application ( a long running server) in a given time intervall -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Westerman Sent: Samstag, 15.