Re: Assembler question

2006-11-04 Thread glen herrmannsfeldt
(snip regarding packed decimal) (someone wrote) It isn't. Only specific values are allowed as a sign. X'A' through X'F' Suffice to say that it was once proposed that the Add Register instruction code, X'1A', could be used as a positive packed decimal 1 I suppose that could be done to save one

End of days for the Sysplex Timer

2006-11-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
I was just reading the Share Website and came across this entry. Does any one have any additional information on this process yet? The Sysplex Timer is Dead! -- Since the beginning of Parallel Sysplex, our installations have depended upon the IBM 9037-001 and 9037-002

Re: Is the teaching of non-reentrant HLASM coding practices ever defensible?

2006-11-04 Thread Clark Morris
On 28 Oct 2006 11:42:59 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: == Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) == wrote2006-10-25 23:46: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 10/23/2006 at 06:02 PM, Thomas Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I think it's funny that this thread that started from details in

Re: FW: The PSI Letter V4

2006-11-04 Thread Alan Altmark
On Saturday, 11/04/2006 at 04:46ZE10, Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before making any assumptions, a customer with questions about IBM software may want to contact IBM. Pity customer(s) are perceived to be so bloody stupid that this even needs to be stated. I not necessarily disagreeing

Re: S.O.S. - VTOC INDEX DISABLED. - THANKS

2006-11-04 Thread Clark Morris
On 3 Nov 2006 05:13:57 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Hi Ed, To answer your question nothing has been found despite an exhaustive search. I hope to find something because it is scary. Maybe, some member of this board had a similar experience and could share it with us. In

Re: SMP/E in TSO (was: Why AUTHPGM?)

2006-11-04 Thread Gilbert Saint-Flour
Paul Gilmartin wrote: I prevailed on our sysprog to add GIMSMP to AUTHPGM. This helped lots of things when I run SMP/E from an EXEC: (...) I suppose I could try to SYSCALL spawn SMP/E into a separate address space -- the DCB's should be closed at end-of-memory, shouldn't they? But this

FW: The PSI Letter V4

2006-11-04 Thread Phil Payne
Neither is the IBM 8668 which is the system used to run an ESL 8 mips FLEX based system. Hi, Seb. Still working for Cornerstone? I think it would only be polite to the list to acknowledge that, if true. Then again perhaps CSI has terminated as many people as T3. I know Aled has gone from

Competing with IBM

2006-11-04 Thread Phil Payne
Fierce but fair? An offline comment (it's Friday) and I think it's pertinent. I fought IBM tooth and nail from 1978 to 1992. Throughout that time I found IBM and all other competitors - at management levels - to be fair and honest people. Some might find it amazing, but I think I can claim

Re: SMP/E in TSO (was: Why AUTHPGM?)

2006-11-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Gilbert Saint-Flour said: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Nov 4 08:12:22 2006 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 09:16:44 -0500 Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU From: Gilbert

Re: End of days for the Sysplex Timer

2006-11-04 Thread Roger Lowe
On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 07:52:18 -0500, Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just reading the Share Website and came across this entry. Does any one have any additional information on this process yet? Hi Lizette, On the IBM Redbooks website, there is a draft of Server Time

Re: Assembler question

2006-11-04 Thread Rick Fochtman
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 11/03/2006 at 09:44 AM, Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Anyone who has spent a significant time looking at dumps of application code will verify: quite often, instruction streams can be confused with data areas, Not

Re: SMP/E in TSO (was: Why AUTHPGM?)

2006-11-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
Rats! New terminal emulator -- I keep fumbling things into the list. In a recent note, Gilbert Saint-Flour said: Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 09:16:44 -0500 The system closes DCBs at end-of-task. I had been unaware of such task ownership of DCBs. I bow to your expertise. But I suspect

Re: The PSI Letter V4

2006-11-04 Thread Edward Jaffe
Shane wrote: On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 08:33 -0500, Knutson, Sam wrote: More news from PSI on the state of their commercial emulation solution. The next few months seem to hold the potential for interesting developments in this area. Saw this first thing this morning, and thought -

Re: FW: The PSI Letter V4

2006-11-04 Thread Dave Jones
One thing I find interesting in the PSI letter is that there is no mention of z/VM support, correctly licensed or not. :-) Given that a significant portion of new workloads being moved to the mainframe are zLinux and z/VM based, this is surprising, imho, at least. Perhaps PSI believes that being

Re: FW: The PSI Letter V4

2006-11-04 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip- Stupid? Hardly. I've just observed that there's just a ... blind spot ... when it comes to licensing agreements. Perhaps it's because sysprogs aren't the people who see and must agree to the TsCs contained therein? In prehistoric times,

Re: Assembler question

2006-11-04 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 18:46:47 -0800, Charles Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, you might, if you were debugging a S0C7. No data exception will occur. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Not in this

Re: FW: The PSI Letter V4

2006-11-04 Thread Tom Moulder
I'm sure that I don't know much about this topic. Let me just ask then how it is that IBM can ALLOW z/OS to run on a PSI machine. If PSI totally on its own writes firmware loaded at IPL time to allow z/OS to run on an Itanium 2 dual core processor, then why couldn't the customer buy z/OS and run

Re: FW: The PSI Letter V4

2006-11-04 Thread Tom Marchant
On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 10:32:48 -0600, Tom Moulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure that I don't know much about this topic. Let me just ask then how it is that IBM can ALLOW z/OS to run on a PSI machine. If PSI totally on its own writes firmware loaded at IPL time to allow z/OS to run on an

Re: End of days for the Sysplex Timer

2006-11-04 Thread Brian Peterson
The Sysplex Timer has been the bedrock technology for Parallel Sysplex since the 9037-001 Sysplex Timer was introduced in September 1990, and enhanced by 9037-002 Sysplex Timer introduced in November 1996. This technology served our needs well for more than a decade, but as systems became faster

Re: The PSI Letter V4

2006-11-04 Thread Nigel Hadfield
On 4/11/06 16:46, Tom Marchant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When Amdahl started selling processors, the operating system was free. When IBM started to charge for it, they knew how much power an Amdahl processor had and where it fit in the pricing structure. ISTR there was a perception at that

Re: The PSI Letter V4

2006-11-04 Thread Doug Fuerst
One could also wonder why IBM bundling software and hardware got it slapped with a consent decree, and today Apple does this normally, and Microsoft does it with software (IE anyone?). Windows also can run on a bigger processor without additional license fees, z/OS does not. And let us not

Re: COND CODE 3592

2006-11-04 Thread Ed Gould
On Nov 3, 2006, at 10:41 PM, Chris Mason wrote: Peter John McKown and Matthew Stitt have almost certainly provided the explanation of what has happened. It's always worth taking a good close look at the explanation of the message which is puzzling you before panicking. Since this is a

Re: FW: The PSI Letter V4

2006-11-04 Thread Tom Moulder
Begin Quoted E-mail -- then why couldn't the customer buy z/OS and run the software on the machine. You don't buy z/OS. You license it to run on a particular machne. Of course the customer would be taking some risk because the support would

Re: Component Traces

2006-11-04 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 18:11:08 -0600, George D Dranes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed IBM's default CTIx parmlib members have TRACEOPTS On. Should I be going into these members and turning traceopts to off? I doubt I need all of the tracing overhead. What do others do? Thanks for any

Re: Static IP or DHCP?

2006-11-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 11/02/2006 at 04:18 PM, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'm not uncomfortable with the static IP network we have now. One factor to keep in mind is DNS, both for hosts and for IP addresses. If you have servers that you want visible form the outside world, then

FW: The PSI Letter V4

2006-11-04 Thread Phil Payne
One thing I find interesting in the PSI letter is that there is no mention of z/VM support, correctly licensed or not. :-) That's what happens when you hire ex Top Gun mentalities. When they snuck in sometime in early 2005 they were obsessed with Top Gun and went for z/OS. By the time IBM

Re: Linux Experiences?

2006-11-04 Thread Jim Marshall
I'm going to disagree slightly, respectfully. In my experience IBM recommends purchasing Novell or Red Hat support at some level (or will price that into a support agreement). Not much disagreement there. IBM thinks it's a good idea that Linux distributors get revenue in return for the good

Re: Linux Experiences?

2006-11-04 Thread Douglas Shupe
Jim, Your comments are well founded in fact! IBM support knowns what you need. Novell is still a PC oriented vendor. It's borke, I'm sorry wait for the next release. Doug - Original Message - From: Jim Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To:

Re: FW: The PSI Letter V4

2006-11-04 Thread Michael Ross
On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:44:14 -, Phil Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: vast snip I was sceptical about Hercules. I got slimed for it, but I was right. Can't let you get away with that, Phil - you were dead wrong. You repeatedly stated that IBM would shut Hercules down, harped on about

Re: The PSI Letter V4

2006-11-04 Thread Chris Mason
Phil Lufthansa is still around. The airline with - in my experience - the best re-interpretation of its initials was SABENA. Officially Societe Autonyme Belge d'Exploitation de la Navigation Aerienne it was much better known as Such a Bl**dy Experience Never Again which, to be fair, has not so

Re: Java Error

2006-11-04 Thread Chris Mason
Lindy You may be right. It depends on the installation. Normally an installation is set up in such a way that a particular port number corresponds to a particular server application but it doesn't have to be. Normally TELNET can be found when you connect to port 23 (not 25[1]) from your TELNET