Re: FTP and SMS (and DYNALLOC)

2009-05-23 Thread Gibney, Dave
I just read that in detail again. The automount lead me to consider if you're really in the HFS file system when you di the get. Try a "whatever the print local directory command is after the locsite and before the get. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:i

Re: FTP and SMS (and DYNALLOC)

2009-05-23 Thread Lester, Bob
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On > Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL > Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 7:34 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: FTP and SMS (and DYNALLOC) > > >No joy, I'm afraid. Set it up as documented, but get the sam

Re: ups batteries draining, can't switch to generators

2009-05-23 Thread Scott T. Harder
On 5/23/09, Ted MacNEIL wrote: > When I started in this business, working as an operator was almost a > requirement before becoming a SYSPROG. Absolutely. > > BTDT. GTTS. ;-) > > But, my management (at the time) still gave them the call of if/which > changes would be implemented. > And, which

Re: FTP and SMS (and DYNALLOC)

2009-05-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>No joy, I'm afraid. Set it up as documented, but get the same error. >I think I'm getting bit by this statement in the doc. I haven't really been following this thread, so please forgive me as I ask for clarification. Are you saying that if an FTP outfile is allocated, under z/OS, that DFSMS d

Re: ups batteries draining, can't switch to generators

2009-05-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>I saw, firsthand, the dumbing down of OPS and it disturbed me greatly. When I started in this business, working as an operator was almost a requirement before becoming a SYSPROG. >I had mgmt come into Operations where I worked that *never* wanted to be at >fault... that was truly their #1 pri

Re: FTP and SMS (and DYNALLOC)

2009-05-23 Thread Lester, Bob
Hi Greg, No joy, I'm afraid. Set it up as documented, but get the same error. I think I'm getting bit by this statement in the doc. ---snip--- Volumes in dummy storage groups cannot be used when performing volume allocations. For example, the following DD statement, where DUMMY1 is a volum

Re: BLOCK CONTAINS

2009-05-23 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 16:07 -0500 on 05/18/2009, Paul Gilmartin wrote about Re: BLOCK CONTAINS: On Mon, 18 May 2009 18:18:20 +0200, Gilbert Saint-Flour wrote: On Monday 18 May 2009 18:04, Paul Gilmartin wrote: What a stupid necessity that programmers have to code BLOCK CONTAINS 0 ! What happens if the progr

Re: BLOCK CONTAINS

2009-05-23 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 20:24 -0300 on 05/18/2009, Clark Morris wrote about Re: BLOCK CONTAINS: On 18 May 2009 13:35:40 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >Ah! NOBLOCK had F/80/80 whereas BLOCK1 had FB/80/80. BLOCK0 still had FB/80/27920. But it is still interesting, to me, that BLOCK CONTAINS 1 and no B

Re: ups batteries draining, can't switch to generators

2009-05-23 Thread Scott T. Harder
Sorry should have said "restarted the CATALOG address space". On 5/23/09, Scott T. Harder wrote: > Hi All, > > I have a couple of points to make on this topic: > > 1) For all the well documented (and well taken) information about the > importance of shutting down a system orderly and cleanly

Re: ups batteries draining, can't switch to generators

2009-05-23 Thread Scott T. Harder
Hi All, I have a couple of points to make on this topic: 1) For all the well documented (and well taken) information about the importance of shutting down a system orderly and cleanly, I find it hard to remember when - in my experience - the system ever had problems coming back up after a hard c

Re: ups batteries draining, can't switch to generators

2009-05-23 Thread Doug Fuerst
Why not simply fix the problems in the power systems, and test them regularly? If this had been the case in the last 3 places I have worked, I would have been escorted off the premises, and my stuff thrown out after me. Doug snip Kelly Bert Manning wrote: Please don't laugh. I

Re: BLOCK CONTAINS

2009-05-23 Thread R.S.
Ted MacNEIL pisze: You seem to be agreeing with Steve Thompson that "In the MVS world, we are not device dependant," only insofar as there is only one type of device. A weak assertion indeed. Not at all. There are at least two device types -- tape and disk. And, I can convert to either witho

Re: Configuring APPN using Hipersockets

2009-05-23 Thread Chris Mason
John I'm glad you managed to get it all working. You obviously don't need it but, for completeness for the archives, I may as well air the IP considerations for Enterprise Extender: 1. Clearly you need to define a static VIPA, the IP address given in the XCA GROUP statement. DEVICE device_na

Re: BLOCK CONTAINS

2009-05-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>You seem to be agreeing with Steve Thompson that "In the MVS world, we are not >device dependant," only insofar as there is only one type of device. A weak >assertion indeed. Not at all. There are at least two device types -- tape and disk. And, I can convert to either without re-compiling. Th

Re: BLOCK CONTAINS

2009-05-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 23 May 2009 19:12:19 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: >>All things being equal, I would much rather not use my scarce time dealing >>with DASD architecture migration. > >Having gone from 3330 --> 3350 --> 3380 --> 3390 (emulation mode) --> 3390 >(native), I agree 100%! > >IBM promised, years ag

Re: BLOCK CONTAINS

2009-05-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>All things being equal, I would much rather not use my scarce time dealing >with DASD architecture migration. Having gone from 3330 --> 3350 --> 3380 --> 3390 (emulation mode) --> 3390 (native), I agree 100%! IBM promised, years ago, to not change the geometry again. Better the devil you know

Re: BLOCK CONTAINS

2009-05-23 Thread Joel C Ewing
Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Fri, 15 May 2009 09:27:42 -0400, Thompson, Steve wrote: Welcome to the MVS world. In the MVS world, we are not device dependant, nor are we data definition locked/blocked. We generally don't have to recompile our programs, change the DTF contents (DCB in MVS), etc. just

Re: Migrate at close

2009-05-23 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Hi Ron, At DR I have the capability to Recall migrated datasets as well as Recover any that might be mistakenly deleted. To be completely safe, Yes, I believe both ML2 and Backups should be duplexed. Tape is cheap, recreating data if possible is not. Dave O'Brien NIH Contractor ___

Re: Migrate at close

2009-05-23 Thread R.S.
Ron Hawkins pisze: David, If you are using DFSMShsm duplex tapes for ML2 do you really need to have a third copy as a DFSMShsm backup? Human error. Even duplex copy can be deleted by mistake. Backup requires another action. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 1

Re: ups batteries draining, can't switch to generators

2009-05-23 Thread Joel C Ewing
While YMMV, out experience has been that any utility power failure lasting more than 5-15 seconds is a solid failure and the outage will invariably be an hour or more while the utility company locates and fixes the problem. This means that unless you have an extraordinary UPS, or functional ge

Re: Migrate at close

2009-05-23 Thread Ron Hawkins
David, If you are using DFSMShsm duplex tapes for ML2 do you really need to have a third copy as a DFSMShsm backup? Ron > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of > O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] > Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009

Re: OAM 3995 objects

2009-05-23 Thread Joel C Ewing
Over a year ago one of our DBA's converted us from OAM and the 3995 to remote DB2 objects on DASD on a non-mainframe server platform (as the whole point of the 3995 was long-term archival on random access media cheaper than mainframe DASD). Our case might have been simpler than yours in that

Re: Submitting a "Marketing REQUEST" (was: BLOCK CONTAINS

2009-05-23 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Ed, And yet, IBM is hiring 1,300 people in Dubuque Iowa. I'm sure they will hire some who got laid off in other areas of the country, but it is a good sign. Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Programmer Milwaukee, Wisconsin 414-475-7434 - Original Message - From: "Ed Gould" Excellent qu

Re: Enterprise COBOL for z/OS V4

2009-05-23 Thread R.S.
Richards, Robert B. pisze: That is only true if you are paying full cap. Enterprise COBOL is a Variable Workload License Charge (VWLC) product. You only pay for what you use if you are doing sub-capacity pricing. Plus, if you are careful to restrict the lpars that you allow compiler execution on,

Re: APF authorization failure with DB2

2009-05-23 Thread Joel C Ewing
Vivian wrote: On May 22, 2:31 pm, pauls2...@yahoo.com wrote: When we run in straight batch PGM=MyPgm, it works. When we run using IKJEFT01 with a call, it works. When we run it as a DB2 job (IKJEFT01 with Run), it fails S047. But, all of our DB2 libs are also APF authorized and in the linklist.