Re: ISPF: How best to change ISPSPROF variables programmatically (was ISPF: How best to change user variable ZRETMINL in ISPSPROF)

2010-08-13 Thread Tidy, David (D)
Hi Dave, That helps enormously - thanks! Best regards, David Tidy Dow Benelux B.V. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Salt Sent: 12 August 2010 17:01 To:

Re: Basic question about CPU instructions

2010-08-13 Thread Supra Uche
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mainframe zip

2010-08-13 Thread Jim McAlpine
Are there any free zip programs that will compress a number of mvs text files which are compatible with winzip. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu

Re: mainframe zip

2010-08-13 Thread Andy Robertson
Use jar files? Needs JAVA in batch, but I think they can be read by zip. Andy Robertson telephone mobile 0777 214 9545 home 01308 420797 Subject: mainframe zip Are there any free zip programs that will compress a number of mvs text files which are compatible with winzip. Jim

Re: mainframe zip

2010-08-13 Thread Michael Knigge
Jim McAlpine schrieb: Are there any free zip programs that will compress a number of mvs text files which are compatible with winzip. Try ftp://ftp.info-zip.org/pub/infozip/mvs/ bye, Michael -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: mainframe zip

2010-08-13 Thread Leopold Strauss
On 13.08.2010 11:54, Jim McAlpine wrote: Are there any free zip programs that will compress a number of mvs text files which are compatible with winzip. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

CA-FILESAVE help - desperate

2010-08-13 Thread McKown, John
We use CA-FILESAVE to process CICS/TS 3.2 journal records. We are getting a message: FILE-ERRS03 JOURNAL RECORD LENGTH + SORT PREFIX EXCEEDS 32767 BYTES; SORT TERMINATED. MODULE=E15EXIT Unfortunately, it doesn't tell me which record or file or anything. The manual says to exclude the file.

Does POST require a save area?

2010-08-13 Thread Charles Mills
When I've written code in the past I have always routinely provided for a save area for subsidiary functions, pointed to of course by R13. I never paid any attention to whether particular functions required a save area because it was just always there. I'm currently engaged in writing code where

Re: Does POST require a save area?

2010-08-13 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 08:21:47 -0400 Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: :When I've written code in the past I have always routinely provided for a :save area for subsidiary functions, pointed to of course by R13. I never :paid any attention to whether particular functions required a save area

Re: PDSE Performance

2010-08-13 Thread Gerald Scharitzer
Dear Colleagues, if I remember correctly, then the directory structure of PDSEs was designed to speed up finding specific members as opposed to listing the entire directory. To my best of knowledge the directory structure of PDSs is sequential (ordered list) while for PDSEs it is hierarchical

optimizing compilers

2010-08-13 Thread john gilmore
Not a little misunderstanding of what optimizing compilers are good for, of what they can and cannot do currently, has been evident in several different IBM-MAIN threads/conversations during the last few days; and perhaps it will be useful to try to explain where optimizing techniques stand

Re: Oracle: The future is diskless!

2010-08-13 Thread Howard Brazee
Reading this heading reminds me of a scene in the movie _Ghost Busters_. Yes, he has no disk. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN

Re: Does POST require a save area?

2010-08-13 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks, Binyamin. if you tell the assembler SYSSTATE? POST with LINKAGE=BRANCH does not restore the registers Thanks for pointing that out. I have not used LINKAGE=BRANCH before and had not (yet!) noticed that. That will change things for one of my code paths (which fortunately is a minority

Re: Does POST require a save area?

2010-08-13 Thread Bill Fairchild
There's nothing quite like empirical evidence. Set R13 to zero and POST.a full word somewhere safe. See if you get a S0C4 inside IBM's code on an instruction involving R13. Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Step processor time

2010-08-13 Thread Howi Kok
Hi All, In a UTL exit how do I find out the step processor time for that step when CPU time is exceeded? Thanks. Howi -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with

Re: Does POST require a save area?

2010-08-13 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 08:54:23 -0400 Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: :Thanks, Binyamin. : if you tell the assembler :SYSSTATE? Yep. SYSSTATE ARCHLVL=2,OSREL=ZOSV1R6 : POST with LINKAGE=BRANCH does not restore the registers :Thanks for pointing that out. I have not used

Re: CA MSM First Contact

2010-08-13 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 08/12/2010 11:56 PM, Barbara Nitz wrote: An overview of the various address spaces involved with MSM (4 long-term plus other short-term), what types of functions in MSM cause tasks to to farmed out to other address spaces or the creation of other address spaces for running tasks.

Re: optimizing compilers

2010-08-13 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
john_w_gilm...@msn.com (john gilmore) writes: A good first reference is: F. J. Allen and John Cocke, A catalog of optimizing transformations, Courant Computer Science Symposium 5, Upper Saddle River, NJ: Prentice-Hall, 1977, pp. 1-30. John's invention of 801/risc ... I've frequently

OT: Found an old IBM Year 2000 manual.

2010-08-13 Thread Richbourg, Claude
I was cleaning out my office today and found an old IBM manual from February 1998: The Year 2000 and 2-Digit Dates: A Guide for Planning and Implementation GC28-1251-08 What a nice trip down memory lane. BTW, anyone else out there have this manual with the cool picture on the front?

Re: mainframe zip

2010-08-13 Thread Jim McAlpine
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Michael Knigge michael.kni...@set-software.de wrote: Jim McAlpine schrieb: Are there any free zip programs that will compress a number of mvs text files which are compatible with winzip. Try ftp://ftp.info-zip.org/pub/infozip/mvs/ bye, Michael

Replacement CA-Sysview woth TMON for zOS

2010-08-13 Thread Wim Hondorp
Hi there, We are currently in the process of looking for a replacemnt of CA-Sysview. At the moment the suggestion is to replace it by TMON for zOS. However, we are currently using the API interface of CA-Sysview. Does anyone know if TMON has a comparable possibility? Thanks in advance.

Re: OT: Found an old IBM Year 2000 manual.

2010-08-13 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
richbourg.cla...@mail.dc.state.fl.us (Richbourg, Claude) writes: I was cleaning out my office today and found an old IBM manual from February 1998: The Year 2000 and 2-Digit Dates: A Guide for Planning and Implementation GC28-1251-08 in the early 80s, one of the online conferences on

Re: CA-FILESAVE help - desperate

2010-08-13 Thread Mike Schwab
How big is your sort prefix (sort keys)? Subtract this from 32767. Look in each file for records longer than the result. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 5:58 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: We use CA-FILESAVE to process CICS/TS 3.2 journal records. We are getting a message:

Re: CA MSM First Contact

2010-08-13 Thread Clifford McNeill
Joel, We are just starting with MSM and I find your observations very interesting. Thank you so much for sharing! Cliff McNeill A long review: After seeing some of the favorable comments on ibmmain on CA MSM 3.0, I was encouraged to try it out to see if MSM really did simplify

Re: CA MSM First Contact

2010-08-13 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 19:58:35 -0500, Joel Ewing jcew...@acm.org wrote: A long review: Yes. I'm sure people appreciate it. Very detailed. After seeing some of the favorable comments on ibmmain on CA MSM 3.0, I was encouraged to try it out to see if MSM really did simplify things, and my

Re: mainframe zip

2010-08-13 Thread Jim McAlpine
I ran the following to archive 2 files at once - //ZIP EXEC PGM=ZIP, // PARM='/ -v -a dd:archive -@' //STEPLIB DD DSN=INFOZIP.LOAD,DISP=SHR //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSOUT DD SYSOUT=* //CEEDUMP DD SYSOUT=* //ARCHIVE DD DSN=INFOZIP.ARCHIVE,DISP=(NEW,CATLG), //

Re: PDSE Performance

2010-08-13 Thread Gerald Scharitzer
Dear Colleagues, if I remember correctly, then the directory structure of PDSEs was designed to speed up finding specific members as opposed to listing the entire directory. To my best of knowledge the directory structure of PDSs is sequential (ordered list) while for PDSEs it is hierarchical

Re: mainframe zip

2010-08-13 Thread Kirk Wolf
Check the files... they probably have only newline as line separators. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com FWIW, there is a sample program in JZOS (in the IBM Java SDK) that I wrote called ZipDatasets which will create Zip files from/to datasets, PDS members, etc.

C.D. Keltie is away.

2010-08-13 Thread Colin Keltie
I will be out of the office starting 13/08/2010 and will not return until 19/08/2010. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO

Re: share mainframe disk experience

2010-08-13 Thread Michael Seeman
For what it's worth, you'll be hard pressed to find IBM Mainframe ECKD / FICON support expertise with the with the vendor named after a physics formula. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: mainframe zip

2010-08-13 Thread Jim McAlpine
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Jim McAlpine jim.mcalp...@gmail.comwrote: I ran the following to archive 2 files at once - //ZIP EXEC PGM=ZIP, // PARM='/ -v -a dd:archive -@' //STEPLIB DD DSN=INFOZIP.LOAD,DISP=SHR //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSOUT DD SYSOUT=* //CEEDUMP DD

Date formats

2010-08-13 Thread zMan
How many different date formats are there? There's the hardware timestamp, in two forms (original, with the 2046 rollover, and the extended one -- what is that, a STCKE instruction?). There's something called an Oracle format date. There's some UNIX format that rolls over in 2034 or some such

Re: Date formats

2010-08-13 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
You forgot SMF time: number of hundredths of seconds since midnight. Jon L. Veilleux veilleu...@aetna.com (860) 636-9179 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of zMan Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 12:25 PM To:

Re: Date formats

2010-08-13 Thread Brian Kennelly
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 09:25, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote: Rexx has a few others, but they're conveniences, like the number of days this year -- I don't really consider that a date format, though it's useful sometimes. That is actually a very import format, as well as the full format

Re: Date formats

2010-08-13 Thread McKown, John
There are two that I know of which you did not mention. Lilian and COBOL. COBOL is an integer which is the number of days since 31Dec1600. Lilian is an integer which is the number of days since 14Oct1582. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets®

Re: Date formats

2010-08-13 Thread Field, Alan C.
Having grown up using dd/mm/yy then having to switch to mm/dd/yy so I don't know whether my birthday is 09/06 or 06/09 I'm partial to a ddmmmyy format where mmm is JAN, FEB, ... DEC Alan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of

Re: mainframe zip

2010-08-13 Thread Subscribe Ibm-Main Sam
Try info-zip. It works, but is somewhat dated with respect to the newer zOS file systems and is a little difficult to setup. Once up and running it handles text files great. It will do EBCDIC to ASCII conversion just fine. Then just do a binary download and winzip will handle the zip file

Re: CA MSM First Contact

2010-08-13 Thread Steve Comstock
Barbara Nitz wrote: An overview of the various address spaces involved with MSM (4 long-term plus other short-term), what types of functions in MSM cause tasks to to farmed out to other address spaces or the creation of other address spaces for running tasks. What? 4 new permanent

Re: share mainframe disk experience

2010-08-13 Thread Scott Rowe
While I don't disagree with your point, they are not named after a formula, they are named after the founders. Michael Seeman michael_j_see...@nbc.gov 8/13/2010 12:00 PM For what it's worth, you'll be hard pressed to find IBM Mainframe ECKD / FICON support expertise with the with the vendor

Re: Date formats

2010-08-13 Thread Mike Schwab
The International Astronomical Union uses the Julian Date / Time format. 0 was at January 1, 4713 BCE Greenwich noon, increments by 1 per day, decimal fraction of day for time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_day Various Gregorian calendar formats, including a list by country.

Re: share mainframe disk experience

2010-08-13 Thread August Carideo
Though I missed the start of these post's that's not true we use EmC for our MF DASD w/ direct FICON - from Z/os Z/vm and Z/vse and have had no problems w/ support Michael Seeman

Re: share mainframe disk experience

2010-08-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Though I missed the start of these post's that's not true we use EmC for our MF DASD w/ direct FICON - from Z/os Z/vm and Z/vse and have had no problems w/ support I guess it depends where you are. One of my best friends was a STC (then STK, then Sun, then Oracle -- but he left a long time

Re: Oracle: The future is diskless!

2010-08-13 Thread David Andrews
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 17:06 -0400, Carlos Bodra - Pessoal wrote: Last mainframe will turned off in 1996 hahahahaha That would be Stewart Alsop, quoted in 1991. He eats his words on page 2 of Jim Elliott's m/f retrospective: http://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages/jelliott/pdfs/zhistory.pdf (How did

Re: Date formats

2010-08-13 Thread zMan
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Brian Kennelly brian+ibm-m...@bkennelly.net wrote, re days so far in the year as a date format: That is actually a very import format, as well as the full format returned by the TIME macro: 0cyyddd.  (Century, year, days in year.) Sure, days this year can be

Re: Date formats

2010-08-13 Thread zMan
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:32 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: There are two that I know of which you did not mention. Lilian and COBOL. COBOL is an integer which is the number of days since 31Dec1600. Lilian is an integer which is the number of days since 14Oct1582. Wow,

Re: share mainframe disk experience

2010-08-13 Thread August Carideo
We are in Rye NY ( Westchester County ) Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo. CA

Re: Date formats

2010-08-13 Thread Brian Kennelly
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:42, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote: Sure, days this year can be useful, but does anyone store dates as days so far in the year? It's basically the Julian date without the year. Yes, they do. I worked on a data conversion product a few years ago for a software

Re: share mainframe disk experience

2010-08-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Being Canadian, I don't know where that is. But, EMC support is very good. PS: my ex is from Rochester, but that doesn't mean I know all of NY State. - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -Original Message- From: August Carideo august.cari...@avon.com Sender:

Re: Date formats

2010-08-13 Thread Don Poitras
SAS uses lots of date formats. ISO 8601 is a good spot to look for a large list. http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/lrdict/63026/HTML/default/a003169814.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601 zMan wrote: How many different date formats are there? There's the hardware timestamp,

Re: Date formats

2010-08-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
SAS uses lots of date formats. ISO 8601 is a good spot to look for a large list. Now, you have to be careful about that statement! SAS displays a lot of formats. But, usually, there is only one internal format. Days from June 1, 1960, iirc. - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor

Re: Date formats

2010-08-13 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Years ago, Dr Merrill stated that MXG probably processed more different date and time formats than any other software package. If you have access to it, it may provide a good starting point. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf

Re: Date formats

2010-08-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Years ago, Dr Merrill stated that MXG probably processed more different date and time formats than any other software package. MXG had that facilty mainly because SAS could do most of them. But, once read, they were stored in internal (SAS) format. Don't get me wrong. MXG is a great example of

Friday the 13th Poll

2010-08-13 Thread Ian
Listers, (cross-post from CICS-l) We haven't had a poll yet this year and seeing that it is Friday the 13th... Let's see how many shops are planning on throwing out the mainframe. The poll is here : http://www.cicsworld.com Ian

Re: date formats

2010-08-13 Thread john gilmore
Formats are of interest for displaying|printing dates. They are of almost no interest for storing dates, which should be stored as signed integers that specify day counts before and after some epoch origin, giving each day a serial number in the sequence . . . , -2, -1, 0, +1, +2, . . .

Re: CA-FILESAVE help - desperate

2010-08-13 Thread McKown, John
We had to apply an APAR - RO20687 to FILESAVE (release 4.9, GL 0508). In addition, we had to change our FILESAVE control cards to do a SORT(NO) as well as a REJECT on the file which contained the too large record. Luckily our down stream process did not require this particular file's data. --

DB/2 V7 on Z/os V1.11

2010-08-13 Thread Ward, Mike S
Just to update the archives. I had asked a while back if anyone could tell me if DB/2 V7 would run on z/OS V1.11. The answer I received was a no it won't work. Well we copied all the libraries and DB/2 datasets from z/OS 1.7 to 1.11 then we made the same modifications to parmlib member etc... like

Re: DB/2 V7 on Z/os V1.11

2010-08-13 Thread Edward Jaffe
Ward, Mike S wrote: Just to update the archives. I had asked a while back if anyone could tell me if DB/2 V7 would run on z/OS V1.11. The answer I received was a no it won't work. Well we copied all the libraries and DB/2 datasets from z/OS 1.7 to 1.11 then we made the same modifications to

Re: mainframe zip

2010-08-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:06:18 +0200, Leopold Strauss wrote: On 13.08.2010 11:54, Jim McAlpine wrote: Are there any free zip programs that will compress a number of mvs text files which are compatible with winzip. Try gzip ( GNU.zip). Errr... no. gzip is something different. The name was

Re: Date formats

2010-08-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:25:01 -0400, zMan wrote: How many different date formats are there? There's the hardware timestamp, in two forms (original, with the 2046 rollover, and the extended one -- what is that, a STCKE instruction?). There's something ETOD ends at the same point as TOD, despite

Re: date formats

2010-08-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 18:48:55 +, john gilmore wrote: The obvious epoch origin to use is that for CE and BCE dates, viz., December 31 of the Gregorian calendar. Other epoch origins can then be supported simply using a table of displacements. That would be a proleptic Gregorian

Re: date formats

2010-08-13 Thread Steve Comstock
john gilmore wrote: Formats are of interest for displaying|printing dates. They are of almost no interest for storing dates, which should be stored as signed integers that specify day counts before and after some epoch origin, giving each day a serial number in the sequence Oh my! Should

Re: Date formats

2010-08-13 Thread Steve Comstock
Don Poitras wrote: SAS uses lots of date formats. ISO 8601 is a good spot to look for a large list. http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/lrdict/63026/HTML/default/a003169814.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601 zMan wrote: How many different date formats are there? There's the

RMF and disk activity questions

2010-08-13 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Hello list, I have a couple questions, one general question on RMF reporting and the other on a specific DASD problem I'm having. First the general question. On the monitor 1 post processing reports, what exactly does the TIME field represent? I know this may sound like a silly question,

Re: date formats

2010-08-13 Thread john gilmore
Paul Gilmartin wrote: | That would be a proleptic Gregorian date? and the answer to his question is that the dates of all days that occur before a calendar's epoch origin are proleptic for that calendar by definition. Their day numbers are negative. The use of a fullword for Gregorian day

Re: date formats

2010-08-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 21:49:19 +, john gilmore wrote: | That would be a proleptic Gregorian date? and the answer to his question is that the dates of all days that occur before a calendar's epoch origin are proleptic for that calendar by definition. Their day numbers are negative. The

Re: RMF and disk activity questions

2010-08-13 Thread Lizette Koehler
Rex, What is the dasd vendor? EMC, IBM , STK? We have EMC and it has its own monitor - Workload Analyzer - that can be used to verify performance on our EMC DASD. Sometimes RMF is not showing a significant disconnect time, but when we use ECC or WLA we can see where the issue might be coming

Re: Basic question about CPU instructions

2010-08-13 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
scott.r...@joann.com (Scott Rowe) writes: OK,the 9121 had some CMOS in it, but also still had much Bipolar logic: http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download;jsessionid=212AEDFD169F4B9A8AB5D641C4560917?doi=10.1.1.86.4485rep=rep1type=pdf compares footprint of 9121 air-cooled (announced

Re: Date formats

2010-08-13 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 08/13/2010 12:43 PM, zMan wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:32 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: There are two that I know of which you did not mention. Lilian and COBOL. COBOL is an integer which is the number of days since 31Dec1600. Lilian is an integer which is

Re: date formats

2010-08-13 Thread Mike Schwab
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: deleted I was more thinking of 1582.  Wikipedia (which is always right except when it disagrees with you) says:    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proleptic_Gregorian_calendar    The proleptic Gregorian calendar is

FW: Date formats

2010-08-13 Thread William M Klein
See below From: William M Klein [mailto:wmkl...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 10:25 PM To: William M. Klein Subject: Date formats On 08/13/2010 12:43 PM, zMan wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:32 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: There are two that I

is out of the office.

2010-08-13 Thread Keith Zawila
I will be out of the office starting 08/13/2010 and will not return until 08/23/2010. I will be out of the office until Monday, August 23rd. Thanks. HCSC Company Disclaimer The information contained in this communication is confidential, private, proprietary, or otherwise privileged and is

Re: DB/2 V7 on Z/os V1.11

2010-08-13 Thread Alan Altmark
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 13:03:57 -0700, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: We brought up z/OS 1.4 under z/VM on our z10 after numerous experts told us it wouldn't work. I've become quite skeptical of authoritative-sounding claims that certain hardware/software combination simply won't

Re: DB/2 V7 on Z/os V1.11

2010-08-13 Thread Edward Jaffe
Alan Altmark wrote: People who say it won't work are probably aware of certain configurations where it won't, in fact, work. Those who say it WILL work haven't talked to the nay-sayers. :-) After we successfully brought up z/OS 1.4 on our z10, I told all of the (people you call) nay