PDS multi-volume

2011-04-26 Thread jagadishan perumal
Hi, Is it possible to allocate a single PDS dataset in Multi-volume ? Can anyone please direct me Regards, Jags -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the

Re: PDS multi-volume

2011-04-26 Thread Walter Marguccio
Is it possible to From:jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.com Is it possible to allocate a single PDS dataset in Multi-volume ? No. See http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/dgt2d480.pdf, Processing a Partitioned Data Set, for more details. Walter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer

Re: PDS multi-volume

2011-04-26 Thread Chris Mason
Jags Thanks to Walter Marguccio for the general reference. Here's an URL you can use which avoids having to download a whole manual: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi- bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DGT2D490/3.7.3 quote 3.7.3 Allocating Space for a PDS ... A PDS cannot occupy more than 65 535

Re: Anyone Still Using OLTEP?

2011-04-26 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Not only unused baggage, but ballast. It surely must be tested regularly for each release, CPU and device and we pay for those tests. Green the IT, reduce ballast. Kees. Pommier, Rex R. rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com wrote in message

Re: How to start RMF Monitor III automatically after IPL the system.

2011-04-26 Thread ibmnew
Dear Mark Coulf you send me the examples of sandbox.parmlib(SHUTSYSNAME.) and sandbox.parmlib(SHUTSYSCLONE.REIPL.) ? I wonder why SHUTSYSNAME. and SHUTSYSCLONE.REIPL are needed.For STARTSYS PROC,there is only one member (sandbox.parmlib(STRTSYSNAME.)) Thanks a lot! Best Regards,

Re: Could I use Dynamic volume count(DVC) replace the volume count parameter

2011-04-26 Thread ibmnew
Dear Radoslaw Thanks for your help! it is very clear I am sorry! I have other questions: Below is our allocxx --- CATLG_ERR FAILJOB(YES) /*FAIL THE JOB*/ ERRORMSG(YES)

Re: Dyadic vs AP: Was CPU utilization/forecasting

2011-04-26 Thread Ron Hawkins
Shmuel, I remember spending some time playing with CPU affinity trying to keep the CPU bound jobs away from the AP Why? [Ron Hawkins] Nice catch. I meant to say IO Bound Jobs. Ron -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: Anyone good with DFSORT? Does DFSORT have the ability to multiply offsets that are not known until that time?

2011-04-26 Thread Brian Westerman
The occurrence fields are 1 byte hex fields, and their offsets change based on what they are set to as I outlined before. The original reason we wanted to use DFSORT is the ability to change the data by passing it through a translate table (ALTSEQ). The reason we are doing this is to obfuscate

Re: Mixing Auth and Non-Auth Modules

2011-04-26 Thread Ted MacNEIL
So far as I am concerned, if the auditor is not qualified to do the job of a Systems Programmer, they are not qualified to audit the work of one. IOW: If you are not capable of doing my job, you are not qualified to critique my performance or methods of working. That's why the audit process

Re: PDS multi-volume

2011-04-26 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Neither PDS nor PDSE can be multi-volume. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.com Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 13:12:27 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu

Job execution time

2011-04-26 Thread jagadishan perumal
Hi, In our Job queue(SDSF=ST) some of the user submitted jobs are in Execution state for long time(almost more than 20 minutes). I have checked the initiators too but they are inactive and non of jobs seem to be using those available initiators. I dont see any weird messages in console too. Any

Antwort: Job execution time

2011-04-26 Thread Michael Klaeschen
...expect the unexpected, may be the user jobs are just needing that duration (WAD=works as designed). For instance, are they doing sophisticated maths, like crash test simulation, climate forecasts or live insurance modelling? I think, also waiting for tape mounts is shown as EXECUTION in

Re: Anyone Still Using OLTEP?

2011-04-26 Thread Ken Brick
I thought, but this might be a senior moment, that OLTEP had had its day when the new tape drives (3480) that imitated DASD at the command level come out. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Changing LOGCLS

2011-04-26 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi, Is it possible to change the value LOGCLS without an IPL? TIA Gadi לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת

Re: MEMLIMIT Parameter Question

2011-04-26 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
That's always been an issue since virtual storage limits far outpace the ability of real and auxiliary storage to back all potential pages. One 64 bit address space could kill a system. Does ANYONE have 16exabytes of aux storage? No! When we first went to ESA one slick application programmer

Re: Anyone Still Using OLTEP?

2011-04-26 Thread Steve Dover
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 14:43:45 -0400, John Eells ee...@us.ibm.com wrote: Is anyone still using OLTEP...and if so...what for? I have not used it since we did away with impact printers and 3420 style tape drives. Steve -- For

SVC Screening (was Mixing Auth and Non-Auth Modules)

2011-04-26 Thread Peter Relson
Curious: Does anyone use SVC screening for its documented intended purpose: to define those SVCs that a particular task is allowed to issue (and conversely those that it is not allowed to issue)? I intentionally phrased the question the way I did, although no one answered it in that spirit.

Re: PDS multi-volume

2011-04-26 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: PDS multi-volume Neither PDS nor PDSE can be multi-volume. - Ted MacNEIL Very true.

Re: Anyone Still Using OLTEP?

2011-04-26 Thread Burrell, C. Todd (CDC/OCOO/ITSO) (CTR)
We still have some 3490 tape drives and I do remember using it sometime over the last 10 years for a tape drive issue with the 3490's - per the CE request. This is probably a good product to sunset and let users use it at their own risk. I definitely would not spend any dollars testing and

Re: SVC Screening (was Mixing Auth and Non-Auth Modules)

2011-04-26 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 07:59:27 -0400 Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com wrote: :Curious: Does anyone use SVC screening for its documented intended :purpose: to define those SVCs that a particular task is allowed to issue :(and conversely those that it is not allowed to issue)? :I intentionally

Re: Job execution time

2011-04-26 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of jagadishan perumal Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Job execution time Hi, In our Job queue(SDSF=ST) some of the user submitted jobs are

Re: Recursive PERFORM in COBOL

2011-04-26 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Don Leahy Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 4:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Recursive PERFORM in COBOL Recursive performs are certainly not forbidden, but are rare. I

Re: Recursive PERFORM in COBOL

2011-04-26 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Frank Swarbrick Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 3:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Recursive PERFORM in COBOL Couple questions What do you mean that a recursive

Re: OMVS S213-FC

2011-04-26 Thread Marco Gianfranco Indaco
This is from my spool: IGD103I SMS ALLOCATED TO DDNAME FTPOUT IGD104I HFS FILE WAS RETAINED, DDNAME IS (FTPOUT ) FILENAME IS (/tmp/jobssh/test.ftp) IGD103I SMS ALLOCATED TO DDNAME FTPOUT IEC104I 0009,TEST,XCOMPROC,FTPOUT -000,BPX1STA ,0081,053B006C, /tmp/jobssh/test.ftp IEC143I

Re: OMVS S213-FC

2011-04-26 Thread Walter Marguccio
FC  The OPE SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=213  REASON CODE=00FC FC  The OPEN function for BSAM or QSAM access to a UNIX file found     that the file does not exist.  How did you code the PATHDISP for /tmp/jobssh/test.ftp ?   Walter Marguccio z/OS Systems

Re: How to start RMF Monitor III automatically after IPL the system.

2011-04-26 Thread Mark Zelden
Coulf you send me the examples of sandbox.parmlib(SHUTSYSNAME.) and sandbox.parmlib(SHUTSYSCLONE.REIPL.) ? I wonder why SHUTSYSNAME. and SHUTSYSCLONE.REIPL are needed.For STARTSYS PROC,there is only one member (sandbox.parmlib(STRTSYSNAME.)) I thought I explained that, but perhaps not

Re: OMVS S213-FC

2011-04-26 Thread Marco Gianfranco Indaco
PATHDISP are KEEP,KEEP -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

Re: Changing LOGCLS

2011-04-26 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 13:38:28 +0300, #1490;#1491;#1497; amp;#1489;#1503; #1488;#1489;#1497; gad...@malam.com wrote: Hi, Is it possible to change the value LOGCLS without an IPL? TIA Gadi There is no supported way. IIRC, I think Sam Knutson posted how to zap the control block and do it. Or

Re: SVC Screening (was Mixing Auth and Non-Auth Modules)

2011-04-26 Thread Rob Schramm
Peter, Since it appears that the majority of the usage of SVC screening is other than intended... has anyone ever submitted requirements to formalize the way it really gets used? Thereby securing against future changes that might break the unsupported feature? Rob Schramm On Tue, Apr 26, 2011

Re: OMVS S213-FC

2011-04-26 Thread Walter Marguccio
I'm sorry, PATHDISP doesn't help us fur PATHDISP are  KEEP,KEEP I'm sorry, PATHDISP doesn't help us further. What did you code as PATHOPTS ? Walter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH Munich - Germany

Re: Mixing Auth and Non-Auth Modules

2011-04-26 Thread Jeff Holst
Perhaps this is a bit off topic, but I have yet to encounter an IT auditor I could trust. At my very first job I was in a small shop running DOS on a 360/40. The company was scheduled for its annual outside audit. The IT auditors typically wanted to completely take over the machine for the

Re: Mixing Auth and Non-Auth Modules

2011-04-26 Thread McKown, John
I agree. My first job was straight from college to a trainee sysprog on OS/VS1 (I knew MVT JCL and assembler). We had a contractor as the main OS/VS1 sysprog. He left instructions to me on how to install the new COBOL compiler. I followed them. They failed. While I was trying to fix the

Re: Mixing Auth and Non-Auth Modules

2011-04-26 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
jeff.ho...@fiserv.com (Jeff Holst) writes: I think that when I was later in an MVS shop, our auditors used that same playbook, but I also think that they read slowly, as they seemed to find one new thing in the book each year. when corporate came in for audit of SJR datacenter in the early

Re: Mixing Auth and Non-Auth Modules

2011-04-26 Thread Ted MacNEIL
happened that our payroll process occurred during the period of the audit. Our operations manager informed the auditors that payroll processing would take priority over the audit if they came on those days, on any other days they could have the machine. Guess which days they came. We

Re: Recursive PERFORM in COBOL

2011-04-26 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 14:49:29 -0500, McKown, John wrote: It is possible to enter a paragraph in either way: You can PERFORM a section, paragraph, or series of paragraphs (A THRU B). It is possible, but unlikely to have: A. ...code PERFORM B THRU D. PERFORM C. ... GOBACK. B. code ...

Control date format using Rexx

2011-04-26 Thread CUNY Yann
Hi all, I would like to control a date format in a dataset with REXX. I know it is possible to convert ... but I just want to make a control. Thanks in advance. Yann Ce message est confidentiel; Son contenu ne represente en aucun cas un engagement de la part de AXA Technology

Re: Control date format using Rexx

2011-04-26 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of CUNY Yann Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 10:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Control date format using Rexx Hi all, I would like to control a date format in a dataset

Re: Control date format using Rexx

2011-04-26 Thread CUNY Yann
I have a dataset with a lot of date, in YYMMDD Format. I just want to verify that the dates indicated in the dataset are real : 120229 = OK 100229 = KO 101328 = KO Etc. -Message d'origine- De : IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] De la part de McKown, John

Re: OMVS S213-FC

2011-04-26 Thread Marco Gianfranco Indaco
Ok, those are values for allocation. PathOPTS(OWRONLY,OCREAT) PathMode(SIRWXU,SIRWXG,SIRWXO) PathDisp(KEEP,KEEP) This problem does not happen everytime At the moment I've bypassed the problem using echo instead of execio. Regards

Re: Control date format using Rexx

2011-04-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 17:31:04 +0200, CUNY Yann wrote: I have a dataset with a lot of date, in YYMMDD Format. I just want to verify that the dates indicated in the dataset are real : 120229 = OK 100229 = KO 101328 = KO The Rexx DATE(,,) function has the ability to convert date formats. Perhaps

Re: Control date format using Rexx

2011-04-26 Thread Marco Gianfranco Indaco
You can try to convert date (i.e.) from ordered filling / to anyotherformat and menage specific syntax error using signal on syntax. Refer to Rexx Reference - Built-in function - Date Regards. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: Control date format using Rexx

2011-04-26 Thread McKown, John
I won't say this is the best, but it may help you get what you want. I make 1960 a cut off point for no particular reason. That means that 00-59 are considered 2000-2059 and 60-99 are considered 1960-1999. You'd call the verdate routine CALL VERDATE date-to-verify verdate: proc parse arg

INFO TSO-REXX

2011-04-26 Thread CUNY Yann
INFO TSO-REXX Ce message est confidentiel; Son contenu ne represente en aucun cas un engagement de la part de AXA Technology Services (AXA Tech) sous reserve de tout accord conclu par ecrit entre vous et AXA Technology Services (AXA Tech).Toute publication, utilisation ou diffusion,meme

Re: Control date format using Rexx

2011-04-26 Thread John P Kalinich
I have a Rexx date function that I got years ago from the TSO-REXX listserv. It has an edit option. Contact me off-list if you want it. Regards, John K snip Option 9: Edits the supplied date. Returns '1' if date supplied in parm1 is valid; returns 'ERROR' if date is invalid. parm1 =

MFNetDisk in Russia

2011-04-26 Thread shai hess
HI, Talking about my product in forum in Russia. http://s390soft.org.ru/news/2011-04-03-85 Shai -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET

Re: Control date format using Rexx

2011-04-26 Thread Chris Mason
John It's a language thing, specifically false friends! Je voudrais contrôler la date avec REXX. I would like to *verify* the date with REXX. Chris Mason On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 10:24:56 -0500, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Recursive PERFORM in COBOL

2011-04-26 Thread Marco Gianfranco Indaco
I wrote a recursive perform tired to create a new one when change only a row if the structure is the same(I coded different WHEN clause within). Of course I make a set and a reset of variable when I'm calling and returning but what really means Unpredictable is really obscure... I suppose that a

Re: PDS multi-volume

2011-04-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 07:11:50 -0500, McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Neither PDS nor PDSE can be multi-volume. Very true. However, I wonder how acceptable it might be to use BPAM's PDS emulation to store what would

Re: Deleting post

2011-04-26 Thread Hylton Tom P
Google publishes 2 ways to remove your own usenet posts from their archives. When it was deja news, this was known as nuking, so you might search on that term for more info. I've not used it, so cannot attest to it's effectiveness, but it at least says it's still possible.

Re: Mixing Auth and Non-Auth Modules

2011-04-26 Thread Scott Rowe
No offense Ted, but saying it doesn't make it so. I don't think I have ever worked with a truly competent mainframe auditor in the corporate world. I have seen far better in some (but certainly not all) government organizations. I remember one government auditor who said he was going to remove

Re: Deleting post

2011-04-26 Thread Mike Schwab
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Hylton Tom P tom.p.hyl...@irs.gov wrote: deleted As for making sure it doesn't get archived in the first place,   Deja News  created a header field called X-No-Archive to deal with that, and Google still says they honor it.

Re: Anyone good with DFSORT? Does DFSORT have the ability to multiply offsets that are not known until that time?

2011-04-26 Thread Frank Yaeger
Brian Westerman on IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 04/26/2011 02:25:05 AM: The occurrence fields are 1 byte hex fields, and their offsets change based on what they are set to as I outlined before. I noticed that Elardaus in a previous response had said you can save

Re: Control date format using Rexx

2011-04-26 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:58:56 -0600, John P Kalinich jkali...@csc.com wrote: I have a Rexx date function that I got years ago from the TSO-REXX listserv. It has an edit option. Contact me off-list if you want it. There is also RDATE / RDATEF on my web site / CBT file 434. I used them to

Re: Mixing Auth and Non-Auth Modules

2011-04-26 Thread Jeff Holst
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:37:31 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: And, management should have backed the ops manager. I failed to mention that management did in fact back up the actions of the ops manager. As I mentioned, the change in assignments from ops manager to 3rd shift

Re: Recursive PERFORM in COBOL

2011-04-26 Thread Jeff Holst
I am reminded of something I encountered early in may career. The COBOL reference at the time (and this may still be true) stated that if the target of a MOVE statement overlaps the source, the results are unpredicable. (my paraphrse.) Back in the days of the 360, the COBOL compiler would

Re: Control date format using Rexx

2011-04-26 Thread Pete Hartung
/* REXX */ TestDate1 = '090229' /* 2009 IS NOT A LEAP YEAR */ say TestDate1 CheckDate(TestDate1) TestDate2 = '10021'/* month s/b nn not n */ say TestDate2 CheckDate(TestDate2) TestDate3 = '080229' /* this should work */ say TestDate3 CheckDate(TestDate3) exit 0 CheckDate: procedure

Re: Anyone Still Using OLTEP?

2011-04-26 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 4/25/2011 11:32 PM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: However, I've used the OLTEP bit in the UCB for a long time. At each installation I worked at, we found it advantageous to generate extra devices; that allowed just hooking up new equipment Didn't that go away a long time ago with dynamic IOCDS? - Ted

Re: Anyone good with DFSORT? Does DFSORT have the ability to multiply offsets that are not known until that time?

2011-04-26 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Frank Yaeger and Brian Westerman wrote: Elardaus G! A new variation of my name! ;-D My name is Elardus! Please SORT it out! ;-D Nevermind, I've forgiven you. ;-D Frank Yaeger wrote: Well, I'd like to think I'm pretty good with DFSORT and DFSORT's ICETOOL. :-) Wow! I learned

Re: PDS multi-volume

2011-04-26 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2011-04-26 18:18, Paul Gilmartin pisze: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 07:11:50 -0500, McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Neither PDS nor PDSE can be multi-volume. Very true. However, I wonder how acceptable it might be to use

Re: Anyone Still Using OLTEP?

2011-04-26 Thread R.S.
OLTEP. I recognize the name, but I had to check the manual to know what's under the acronym. It seems to be related to hardware control units. I have never used it, I have never had an idea to use it. Well, I can say that I don't need OLTEP. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Polan -- Tre tej

Re: PDS multi-volume

2011-04-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 22:04:13 +0200, R.S. wrote: Well... Probably I did not understand all the discussion above, but IMHO there are no size limitations for PDS *or* PDSE. That means, both flavors of dataset-with-members-inside can be single volume only, but PDSE is limited only by the size of the

Re: PDS multi-volume

2011-04-26 Thread john gilmore
The traditional limitation to 2^16-1 = 65535 tracks is one more instance of control-block overflow, here that of in an unsigned halfword field. PDS support is 'functionally stabilized', i.e., frozen. For this and other reasons it is thus---with the well-known exceptions of system data sets

Re: PDS multi-volume

2011-04-26 Thread Ted MacNEIL
BTW: I strongly believe there are MRs (customer Marekting Request) submitted to IBM to make PDS(E) multi-volume. I would like to know justification to refuse to such request. I would guess directory complexity. And, performance. PKZIP solved it by putting the directory on the last disk. But,

Re: SVC Screening (was Mixing Auth and Non-Auth Modules)

2011-04-26 Thread John McKown
The crazy idea this inspires in me is to use it to make a Linux ABI capture in order to run Linux applications under z/OS. In that case, the code could run in normal, non-priviliged mode. The only obvious issue is that Linux apps are ASCII based. On Apr 26, 2011 6:59 AM, Peter Relson

Re: PDS multi-volume

2011-04-26 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip- The traditional limitation to 2^16-1 = 65535 tracks is one more instance of control-block overflow, here that of in an unsigned halfword field. PDS support is 'functionally stabilized', i.e., frozen. For this and other

Re: PDS multi-volume

2011-04-26 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 4/26/2011 4:12 PM, Rick Fochtman wrote: --snip- The traditional limitation to 2^16-1 = 65535 tracks is one more instance of control-block overflow, here that of in an unsigned halfword field. PDS support is 'functionally

Re: PDS multi-volume

2011-04-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:22:44 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: Not to mention the vast numbr of OEM programs that would be broken by a change in the format of the answer from a NOTE request. IBM extended the size of the information returned by NOTE some time ago from three-byte TTRs to four-byte

Re: OMVS S213-FC

2011-04-26 Thread Michael Klaeschen
IEC143I with system completion code 213, return code FC is clearly explained in MVS System Messages, Vol7: Open for HFS file which is not existing. Further reading: For return code FC, change the file name or create the file. But how comes, your file gets lost on the way? You allocated the