On 8/26/2011 3:28 PM, Gene Hudders wrote:
I guess IBM did not get the message. Look at this URL. It clearly states
MVS just under Metal C. This is for z/OS R12.
MVS is still part of z/OS.
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Very much of indeed.
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On 27/08/11 2:45 PM, Edward Jaffe wrote:
On 8/26/2011 3:28 PM, Gene Hudders wrote:
I guess IBM did not get the message. Look at this URL. It clearly states
MVS just under Metal C. This is for z/OS R12.
MVS is still part of z/OS.
I am out of the office until 09/07/2011.
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... USS? No, let's not go THERE again!
... so I looked at the 1.12 z/OS library
So you just did go there![1]
Your technique is a very close match to the way I have presented my case that
the misuse of which Mr[2] MacNeil is such a vociferous and rude advocate is
again wrong!
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215 MVS is the operating system of this server. FTP Server is running on z/OS.
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200-Jeslrecl parameter (999) must be between 1 and 254. Jeslrecl ignored.
200 SITE command was accepted
Why?
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I catalog them as a single multi-volume dataset. I've always been
overly generous with spool space and thus have seldom needed to add
spool space.
Rick
Schwarz, Barry A wrote:
I wonder how you handle
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You catalogue SPOOL?
And, secondary copies of LPA/LNK libs?
unsnip
SPOOL space is cataloged as a single multi-volume dataset. Secondary
copies of LPA/LNK libs all have unique
W dniu 2011-08-26 19:49, Ed Gould pisze:
Radoslaw:
I have never done a server PAC install on any thing other than a production
systems. That meaning production jobs along side the serv PAC jobs.
Well... IMHO it the most dangerous way.
I assume you mean driving system, otherwise it would be
I catalog them as a single multi-volume dataset. I've always been overly
generous with spool space and thus have seldom needed to add spool space.
What would happen when you reach the practical limit of 59 volumes?
Also, what do you do with multiple sysres?
Multiple parm/lpa/load libs?
Since
Ted MacNeil wrote:
I never said that!
Hence, nonsequitor!
Or worse: strawman.
OK, so what were you suggesting? That's how I interpreted what you said. I
asked you to elucidate; I never said that really doesn't do so. I'd really
*like* to grok what you're saying. As I noted, what I wrote was meant
On Sat, 2011-08-27 at 16:58 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote:
I catalog them as a single multi-volume dataset. I've always been overly
generous with spool space and thus have seldom needed to add spool space.
What would happen when you reach the practical limit of 59 volumes?
Why do you say this?
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 10:28:13 -0500, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote:
I catalog them as a single multi-volume dataset. I've always been
overly generous with spool space and thus have seldom needed to add
spool space.
I've never done it that way. And while one could do it that way and it
Ted,
Technicality here if the dataset is cataloged with asterisks it is technically
cataloged.
Ed
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I said MVS.
You said Model-T vs Taurus as a misrepresentation of what I said: what's the
difference?
If that's not a strawman, what is it?
PS: a few others have pointed out that MVS is still an essential component of
z/OS.
PPS: I think your analysis of the manuals is flawed.
Try just looking
I catalog them as a single multi-volume dataset. I've always been overly
generous with spool space and thus have seldom needed to add spool space.
What would happen when you reach the practical limit of 59 volumes?
Why do you say this?
quote
Up to 253 volumes can be designated as spool
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I catalog them as a single multi-volume dataset. I've always been overly
generous with spool space and thus have seldom needed to add spool space.
What would happen when you reach the practical limit of 59
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I catalog them as a single multi-volume dataset. I've always been
overly generous with spool space and thus have seldom needed to add
spool space.
I've never done it that way. And while one could do it that way and it
I seldom have multiple SYSRES volumes. I use dsnames of SYS9 instead of SYS1,
renaming when I install the resvol.
If I'm forced to back it out, then I'm forced to leave the datasets
uncataloged.
So, you do have (inexcusable) uncatalogued datasets, occasionally. (8-{]}
The active SYSRES is
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r12.halz001/cjeslre.htm
On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:
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ftp quote site jeslrecl=999
200-Jeslrecl parameter (999) must be between 1 and 254. Jeslrecl ignored.
200
Ted,
I thought long and hard about this ages ago. I have a smpe proc with symbolic
volsers with a default pointing to my install volume I don#39;t reall trust
the smpe dialogs ( and I never will) this also as a side benefit if anyone else
ever does an install while I am on vacation they will
Rick,
Like you we had issues with spool size especially after we converted to
3800-3#39;s. What I did say every month or so spin through sys logs. For a
month and graph out spool utilization and added spool volumes if I saw any
general up swing. I also cya#39;d email production and
Just curious as to a general consensus, do you use SMS for spool volumes?
Ed
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Never did.
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Just curious as to a general consensus, do you use SMS for spool volumes?
Ed
Ted MacNeil wrote:
I said MVS.
You said Model-T vs Taurus as a misrepresentation of what I said: what's
the difference?
If that's not a strawman, what is it?
It's an analogy. Read up on it. Take a basic logic course.
PS: a few others have pointed out that MVS is still an essential component
of
It's an analogy. Read up on it. Take a basic logic course.
How many legs does a dog have if you call a tail a leg?
Four, because no matter what you call it a tail is NOT a leg.
'Done with it?'
Your last comment was circular.
But, don't worry (just) to keep you happy, I won't bother to respond.
Unsubstantiated subsystem selection.
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Probably never will. Unless an all SMS mandate appears for future z/OS.
Dave Gibney
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In 4e57892f.4060...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 08/26/2011
at 01:53 PM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl said:
I disagree, that means: what's wrong with UID(0) for such scripts?
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From: Phil Smith III To: Ted MacNeil
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Not even in Canada is it spelled as you suggest.
...
I hope you weren't intentionally insulting a nation during your pissing
match.
Dan
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This poor practice was something instilled in the Tata contractors
we have employed.
Simple answer to that: don't hire
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 16:05:12 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote:
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r12.halz001/cjeslre.htm
Why?
On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
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