Re: ARRRRRGH! SYSOMVS Component Trace - Trace entry mapping

2006-04-26 Thread Barbara Nitz
OK, I've got a component trace of SYSOMVS and formatted via IPCS but where are the trace entries documented/mapped? I've been looking through TFM but can't find it. And you're not goint to. AFAIK, the only place you can find a mapping of the trace entries for the various ctraces is in the module

ARRRRRGH! SYSOMVS Component Trace - Trace entry mapping

2006-04-26 Thread Don Ault
SYSOMVS trace entries are not documented. There are thousands of them and they were created primarily to allow USS service to debug problems. One tip: if you look for SYSCALL EXIT trace entries, the last 3 words contain Return value, Errno, ErrnoJr. By scanning the trace for you can

Re: ARRRRRGH! SYSOMVS Component Trace - Trace entry mapping

2006-04-26 Thread Porowski, Ken
Cross posted to IBM-MAIN and MVS-OE I opened an ETR/ASKQ --- here's the reply Hello Ken, unfortunately, the only externalized information about ctraces can be found in the MVS Diagnosis: Tools and Service Aids.

Re: ARRRRRGH! SYSOMVS Component Trace - Trace entry mapping

2006-04-26 Thread Shane
On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 09:49 -0400, Porowski, Ken wrote: I opened an ETR/ASKQ --- here's the reply ... The record contents are OCO and I can't disclose you the meaning of the fields. What a load of horsesh1t(*) . If it isn't bad enough that we have to put up with OCO

Re: ARRRRRGH! SYSOMVS Component Trace - Trace entry mapping

2006-04-26 Thread Bob Shannon
What a load of horsesh1t(*) . If it isn't bad enough that we have to put up with OCO code-base, we now have to put up with OCO diagnostic data What good is the diagnostic data without the code? So you get a RC of XYZ from a module you never heard of doing an undisclosed function. What would

Re: ARRRRRGH! SYSOMVS Component Trace - Trace entry mapping

2006-04-26 Thread Shane
On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 10:17 -0400, Bob Shannon wrote: What good is the diagnostic data without the code? So you get a RC of XYZ from a module you never heard of doing an undisclosed function. What would that tell you? So, you're advocating IBM should tear up the Diagnostics manuals, and stop

Re: ARRRRRGH! SYSOMVS Component Trace - Trace entry mapping

2006-04-26 Thread Bob Shannon
What good is the diagnostic data without the code? So you get a RC of XYZ from a module you never heard of doing an undisclosed function. What would that tell you? So, you're advocating IBM should tear up the Diagnostics manuals, and stop shipping IPCS and any other diagnostic aids to

Re: ARRRRRGH! SYSOMVS Component Trace - Trace entry mapping

2006-04-26 Thread Porowski, Ken
But some of the info could be of value. In my case I was tracing FILE entries. It would have been nice to know if the VN_RDWR trace entry was a read or a write and maybe to what file etc. I doubt my issue was a 'defect' so why would I open a defect ETR just to have someone tell me what I was

Re: ARRRRRGH! SYSOMVS Component Trace - Trace entry mapping

2006-04-26 Thread Bob Shannon
I doubt my issue was a 'defect' so why would I open a defect ETR just to have someone tell me what I was doing? I would think that IBM would like us to debug our own problems (or at least try) before 'bothering' them with diags. I agree with you philosophically, but reality is different. I had

Re: ARRRRRGH! SYSOMVS Component Trace - Trace entry mapping

2006-04-26 Thread Porowski, Ken
I don't feel guilty, we're paying for the support. I just like to do as much as I can on my own, how else can I be a Guru when I grow up? Anyone know if a SHARE requirement for better trace info might get anywhere? Or maybe enhanced IPCS formatting of the trace entries? It's probably been

Re: ARRRRRGH! SYSOMVS Component Trace - Trace entry mapping

2006-04-26 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shane Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 9:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ARGH! SYSOMVS Component Trace - Trace entry mapping On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 09:49 -0400, Porowski

Re: ARRRRRGH! SYSOMVS Component Trace - Trace entry mapping

2006-04-26 Thread Chris Mason
JES2 exits - which *required* changing between releases? Chris Mason - Original Message - From: McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, 26 April, 2006 5:11 PM Subject: Re: ARGH! SYSOMVS Component Trace - Trace entry

Re: ARRRRRGH! SYSOMVS Component Trace - Trace entry mapping

2006-04-26 Thread Chase, John
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Re: ARRRRRGH! SYSOMVS Component Trace - Trace entry mapping

2006-04-26 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:56:39 -0400, Porowski, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Anyone know if a SHARE requirement for better trace info might get anywhere? Or maybe enhanced IPCS formatting of the trace entries? It's probably been tried before. ... This would have to be done product by

Re: ARRRRRGH! SYSOMVS Component Trace - Trace entry mapping

2006-04-26 Thread Barbara Nitz
What good is the diagnostic data without the code? So you get a RC of XYZ from a module you never heard of doing an undisclosed function. What would that tell you? From experience (when I had OCO-access while I was IBM) I know that the return codes are usually described in some non-OCO

ARRRRRGH! SYSOMVS Component Trace - Trace entry mapping

2006-04-25 Thread Porowski, Ken
Cross posted to IBM-MAIN and MVS-OE OK, I've got a component trace of SYSOMVS and formatted via IPCS but where are the trace entries documented/mapped? I've been looking through TFM but can't find it. Thanks all Ken Porowski AVP Systems Software CIT Group E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]