Re: CATALOG Quesiton

2008-03-14 Thread John Dawes
ilto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of John Dawes > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 2:39 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: CATALOG Quesiton > > Hallo To All, > > Is there a way of telling if a USER CAT is near full or full? > > > > > *

Re: CATALOG Quesiton

2008-03-14 Thread Cobe Xu
deleted, this value is N/A. > > Don Imbriale > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of John Dawes > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 2:39 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: CATAL

Re: CATALOG Quesiton

2008-03-13 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- -- BTW: 2000+ aliases is a lot. - Not really; I once worked in a shop, as a consultant, that had 55,000+ aliases in the MCAT. They pointed to about 30 different UCATS and were fairly eve

Re: CATALOG Quesiton

2008-03-13 Thread R.S.
Rick Fochtman wrote: -- BTW: 2000+ aliases is a lot. - Not really; I once worked in a shop, as a consultant, that had 55,000+ aliases in the MCAT. They pointed to about 30 different UCATS and were fairly evenly balanced in

Re: CATALOG Quesiton

2008-03-13 Thread Rick Fochtman
-- BTW: 2000+ aliases is a lot. - Not really; I once worked in a shop, as a consultant, that had 55,000+ aliases in the MCAT. They pointed to about 30 different UCATS and were fairly evenly balanced in numbers among the UCAT

Re: CATALOG Quesiton

2008-03-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Explain... what duplication? Sometimes, under ISPF 3.4, the same dataset name would come up twice. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PR

Re: CATALOG Quesiton

2008-03-13 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:03:09 +, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>OTOH, I was at a shop where almost every data set started PROD.*. I bet they were happy when MLA (Multi Level Aliases) became available. > >We weren't because of the issues of duplication of datasets on lists. >Our spac

Re: CATALOG Quesiton

2008-03-13 Thread Anthony Saul Babonas
t: Re: CATALOG Quesiton Good reasons to reorg a catalog might include: Remove IMBED/REPLICATE. Out of or near out of extents. Dead CIs. In sufficient index and/or data CISIZE. Catalog is allocated in tracks rather than cylinders. Terry Traylor charlesSCHWAB TIS Mainframe Storage Management Remedy

Re: CATALOG Quesiton

2008-03-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>OTOH, I was at a shop where almost every data set started PROD.*. I bet they >were happy when MLA (Multi Level Aliases) became available. We weren't because of the issues of duplication of datasets on lists. Our space cadets weren't skilled enough to figure out how to handle them. I worked fo

Re: CATALOG Quesiton

2008-03-13 Thread Traylor, Terry
-mstg (602) 977-5154 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 12:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CATALOG Quesiton John Dawes wrote: > Hallo To All, > > Is there a way of tel

Re: CATALOG Quesiton

2008-03-13 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:52:37 +0100, R.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Yes, it is. The limit depends on alias names length. The longer alias >names the smaller limit. >AFAIK it is absolutely unrelated to user catalog allocation. This is >master catalog entry capacity. However you can have more al

Re: CATALOG Quesiton

2008-03-13 Thread R.S.
John Dawes wrote: Thanks for the suggestions. Donald, I used your command and it showed that the CATALOG has 6 extents. Is there a maximum number of alias that is permitted? Presently there are 2,737 alias. (I'm not Donald, but I dare to respond) Yes, it is. The limit depends on alias name

Re: CATALOG Quesiton

2008-03-13 Thread John Dawes
his value is N/A. Don Imbriale -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 2:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: CATALOG Quesiton Hallo To All, Is there a way of telling if a USER CAT is n

Re: CATALOG Quesiton

2008-03-13 Thread R.S.
John Dawes wrote: Hallo To All, Is there a way of telling if a USER CAT is near full or full? Simplest method: see the extents in ISPF. CAT can have up to 123 extents (cannot be multi-volume), of course the volume cannot be full, otherwise the next extent won't have a place. BTW: I reme

Re: CATALOG Quesiton

2008-03-12 Thread David Andrews
On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 16:05 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote: > I am curious. Do I care if it is full or if it has a lot of splits > (CA/CI)? I had one catalog in my past we called a database because it > was over 700,000 entries. We reorged it every weekend because it > performed poorly due to the

Re: CATALOG Quesiton

2008-03-12 Thread Lizette Koehler
I am curious. Do I care if it is full or if it has a lot of splits (CA/CI)? I had one catalog in my past we called a database because it was over 700,000 entries. We reorged it every weekend because it performed poorly due to the splits, not the size. Lizette > >Other posters have responde

Re: CATALOG Quesiton

2008-03-12 Thread Anthony Saul Babonas
L PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 1:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: CATALOG Quesiton Hallo To All, Is there a way of telling if a USER CAT is near full or full? Thanks. - Get the name you always wanted with

Re: CATALOG Quesiton

2008-03-12 Thread John Laubenheimer
First, the good news. A catalog can have up to 123 (if I recall correctly) extents. If you haven't reached this limit, you should be OK. If you are at (or near) this limit, it gets a bit fuzzy. If, by creating a new entry in the catalog, you cause a CI split, which in turn causes a CA split,

Re: CATALOG Quesiton

2008-03-12 Thread Imbriale, Donald
that are marked as closed or deleted, this value is N/A. Don Imbriale -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 2:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: CATALOG Quesiton Hallo To All

Re: CATALOG Quesiton

2008-03-12 Thread Adams, Rick
create a new user catalog. ThanksRick -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 1:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: CATALOG Quesiton Hallo To All, Is there a way of telling if a

Re: CATALOG Quesiton

2008-03-12 Thread Jakubek, Jan
Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: March 12, 2008 2:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: CATALOG Quesiton Hallo To All, Is there a way of telling if a USER CAT is near full or full? Thanks. - Get the name you always

CATALOG Quesiton

2008-03-12 Thread John Dawes
Hallo To All, Is there a way of telling if a USER CAT is near full or full? Thanks. - Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe