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at 03:48 PM, Kelman, Tom thomas.kel...@commercebank.com said:
I believe that the KICKS you're talking about is designed to run on
Hercules an MVS/zOS emulator
No, Hercules is not an MVS/zOS emulator; it is a
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The see-eye-see-ess vs. kicks pronunciation wars
I have also heard it called sissy.
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On 23 July
, is Kaliningrad, and the
German name means King's Mountain.
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Another way to pronounce the acronym as a single word
Bill Fairchild pisze:
Bob,
You left out the other in syllable in Kaliningrad. The easiest way to
remember how to spell it correctly is to use either of the two words for it in the native languages
of people that have ruled it - Калининград or Königsberg. :-)
The Russian name, when
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Bill Fairchild pisze:
Bob,
You left out the other in syllable in Kaliningrad. The easiest way
to remember how to spell it correctly is to use either of the two words
for it in the native languages of people that have
On Monday 26 July 2010 11:28, Peter Nuttall wrote:
My German might be a bit rusty, but isn't Burg - Castle and Berg -
Mountain ?
Ganz richtig.
Cheers,
Bob
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On Monday 26 July 2010 10:17, Bill Fairchild wrote:
Bob,
You left out the other in syllable in Kaliningrad.
Finger check in the banana problem algorithm.
I probably should have just written Königsberg.
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Bob
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On Monday 26 July 2010 11:23, R.S. wrote:
Bill Fairchild pisze:
The Russian name, when transliterated into English, is Kaliningrad,
and the German name means King's Mountain.
Just to complement this off-topic thread:
OT, yes, but entertaining.
Kaliningrad can be
translated as City
W dniu 2010-07-24 07:15, Ted MacNEIL pisze:
Last kicks conference I went to, the Brits all said zed-oh-ess.
Canadians do for the most part, too.
In Poland we say KICKS and zed-oh-ess.
I think in Europe people use KICKS.
BTW: KICKS in polish is jargon name for futball shot that horribly
On 07/23/2010 10:07 PM, Bob Woodside wrote:
On Friday 23 July 2010 11:52, zMan wrote:
It's always appeared to me to be:
Americans: see-eye-see-ess
Others: kicks
I think you might occasionally hear cheeks in Italy. :-)
Among Americans, I think it depends on how much contact the staff of
On Saturday 24 July 2010 09:40, R.S. wrote:
BTW: KICKS in polish is jargon name for futball shot that horribly
misses the target (or squint).
Well, I have heard a couple of criticisms of CICS that weren't too far
removed. Not from me, mind you.
BTW2: We have no problem to pronounce
Early in my career, I started pronouncing CICS - kicks. Others sysprogs
tried correcting me: C-I-C-S. Then I went to a class and found that I was
not the only one pronouncing it - kicks. I polled my classmates and kicks
won. I felt good. So no matter what IBM renames it; if it looks like CICS,
Why use four syllables when one will do - that's effieciency!
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Don Williams donb...@gmail.com wrote:
Early in my career, I started pronouncing CICS - kicks. Others sysprogs
tried correcting me: C-I-C-S. Then I went to a class and found that I was
not the only
It's always appeared to me to be:
Americans: see-eye-see-ess
Others: kicks
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Don Williams donb...@gmail.com wrote:
Early in my career, I started pronouncing CICS - kicks. Others sysprogs
tried correcting me: C-I-C-S. Then I went to a class and found that I was
This American has been calling it kicks for over 30 years.
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On 23 Jul 2010 08:52:54 -0700, zedgarhoo...@gmail.com (zMan) wrote:
It's always appeared to me to be:
Americans: see-eye-see-ess
Others: kicks
My brother said kicks. I don't know where he got that, he lived in
California. Wherever I've worked it was see-eye-see-ess, including
trips to
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On 23 Jul 2010 08:52:54 -0700, zedgarhoo...@gmail.com (zMan) wrote:
It's always appeared to me to be:
Americans: see-eye-see-ess
Others: kicks
My brother said kicks. I don't know where he got that, he lived in
California
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On 23 Jul 2010 08:52:54 -0700, zedgarhoo...@gmail.com (zMan) wrote:
It's
Agreed.
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 12:42 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote:
Actually I do know folks who say zohss. It grates on me.
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On 23 Jul 2010 08:52:54 -0700, zedgarhoo...@gmail.com (zMan) wrote:
It's always appeared to me to be:
Americans: see-eye-see-ess
Others: kicks
My brother said kicks. I don't know where he got
Now there is another twist to that - someone is writing a CICS clone for
MVS3.8 and has named it KICKS :) It's already running some simple CICS
COBOL applications.
Mohammad
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:50:46 -0400, Don Williams donb...@gmail.com
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Early in my career, I started pronouncing
On 23 July 2010 13:33, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote:
It's interesting. Everyone seems to say rack-eff and vee-tam and vee-sam but
no one says zoss.
I sometimes say zoss, but only when talking to a mixed group of
Americans and rest of the world people, where either standard
Last kicks conference I went to, the Brits all said zed-oh-ess.
Greg
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I sometimes say zoss, but only when talking
I always say zoss, and I used to say eeesa for ESA.
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Charles, that's interesting. I worked in shops in the Southeast,
specifically Atlanta, for almost 30 years and there is was always kicks.
It's when I moved to the Midwest in 2005 that I got into a shop where
they said
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Now there is another twist to that - someone is writing
On 7/23/2010 4:48 PM, Kelman, Tom wrote:
I believe that the KICKS you're talking about is designed to run on
Hercules an MVS/zOS emulator that will run on Linux, various version of
UNIX, Windows, or Mac OS.
Hercules is a hardware emulator (S/370 to fairly current). The
OS is distinct. The
Early in my career, I started pronouncing CICS - kicks. Others sysprogs
tried correcting me: C-I-C-S. Then I went to a class and found that I was not
the only one pronouncing it - kicks. I polled my classmates and kicks won. I
felt good. So no matter what IBM renames it; if it looks like CICS,
Last kicks conference I went to, the Brits all said zed-oh-ess.
We Canadians do, as well.
There is only one country that pronounces it zee.
And, I've heard many Americans call it zee-oss.
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I believe that the KICKS you're talking about is designed to run on
Hercules an MVS/zOS emulator that will run on Linux, various version of
UNIX, Windows, or Mac OS.
On Friday 23 July 2010 11:52, zMan wrote:
It's always appeared to me to be:
Americans: see-eye-see-ess
Others: kicks
I think you might occasionally hear cheeks in Italy. :-)
Among Americans, I think it depends on how much contact the staff of a
particular shop have with European users of
On 23 July 2010 23:07, Bob Woodside ibm...@woodsway.com wrote:
the UK pronunciation.
I used to hear see-eye-see-ess in Houston ages ago. But
as others have pointed out, the phenomenon seems to defy
regionalization within the US.
There's also the not-yet-mentioned see-ah-see-ess... The
I say zoss...
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It seemed to me
Oh, they pronounced it correctly did they?
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Last kicks conference I went to, the Brits all said zed-oh-ess.
Canadians do for the most part, too.
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