Re: Downgrade 9672

2005-06-23 Thread Froberg, David C
I remnember Texas Tech getting a speed upgrade to there 370/145 back in the 70's. It consisted of the CE removing three loops from the 145's microcode. The price tag for this upgrade? A cool $ 50K! Pretty extortionate... I'm sure there are third-party companies that did/do this kind

Re: Downgrade 9672

2005-06-23 Thread Matthew Stitt
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Re: Downgrade 9672

2005-06-23 Thread Timothy Sipples
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Re: Downgrade 9672

2005-06-22 Thread Larry Kraus
Yes, you can pay IBM $5,000 to $10,000 dollars to make it an R16, R26, etc. -Original Message- Hi Listers, We have an IBM 9672-R56 hardware. Is there any way we can downsize it to a lower capacity so that we can use it for testing. We understand that IBM has dropped marketing

Re: Downgrade 9672

2005-06-22 Thread Steve Arnett
I am not sure if it would be worth it, but you could contact a third party vendor and see if you could trade down. Instead of paying money. you might be able to get paid for the downgrade. However, since you could probably buy an R16 or R26 for $ 5,000, the net difference may not pay for the

Re: Downgrade 9672

2005-06-22 Thread Michael Ross
At that price it would make more sense to do it yourself! How on earth do IBM arrive at that figure? Or you could buy a used R16 etc. for less money - try ebay! Mike On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:44:47 -0400, Larry Kraus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, you can pay IBM $5,000 to $10,000 dollars to make

Re: Downgrade 9672

2005-06-22 Thread SArnett
I remnember Texas Tech getting a speed upgrade to there 370/145 back in the 70's. It consisted of the CE removing three loops from the 145's microcode. The price tag for this upgrade? A cool $ 50K! Michael Ross wrote: At that price it would make more sense to do it yourself! How on earth

Re: Downgrade 9672

2005-06-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
... However, since you could probably buy an R16 or R26 for $ 5,000, the net difference may not pay for the shipping and CE services for the install ... The net software difference may. But, I recall one ISV (from Islandia NY) Who would not refund any money. Just gave out credits, which were

Re: Downgrade 9672

2005-06-22 Thread Michael Ross
On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:35:14 -0500, SArnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remnember Texas Tech getting a speed upgrade to there 370/145 back in the 70's. It consisted of the CE removing three loops from the 145's microcode. The price tag for this upgrade? A cool $ 50K! Pretty extortionate... I'm

Re: Downgrade 9672

2005-06-22 Thread Bruce Black
I remnember Texas Tech getting a speed upgrade to there 370/145 back in the 70's. It consisted of the CE removing three loops from the 145's microcode. The price tag for this upgrade? A cool $ 50K! I remember a story from long ago: Honeywell had a processed that came in single and double

Re: Downgrade 9672

2005-06-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
... If you had the slower processor and paid to upgrade to the faster, the CE removed a jumper that made the clock run at half-speed! I can't swear this was true, could be one of those urban computer myths ... I saw it happen on a Honeywell Level 66, in the late 1970's. This was at the

Re: Downgrade 9672

2005-06-22 Thread Ray Mullins
-city.ca.us/ http://www.the-bus-stops-here.org/ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Black Sent: Wednesday 22 June 2005 12:33 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Downgrade 9672 I remnember Texas Tech getting

Re: Downgrade 9672

2005-06-22 Thread Phil Steele
Black Sent: Wednesday 22 June 2005 12:33 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Downgrade 9672 I remnember Texas Tech getting a speed upgrade to there 370/145 back in the 70's. It consisted of the CE removing three loops from the 145's microcode. The price tag for this upgrade? A cool $ 50K

FW: Downgrade 9672

2005-06-21 Thread Hanif Yong Abdullah
Hi Listers, We have an IBM 9672-R56 hardware. Is there any way we can downsize it to a lower capacity so that we can use it for testing. We understand that IBM has dropped marketing support for this hardware. Regards, This message is intended only for the use of the person(s) to