Re: Get 'Group Capacity Limit' programmatically

2009-10-06 Thread Monika Amiss
Hello Shy, Thank you for your hint. Looks great. This is what I was looking for. Thank you so much With best regards Monika * Shy wrote: Subject: Re: Get 'Group Capacity Limit' programmatically Hi, You should use SYSEVENT REQLPDAT. The outp

Get 'Group Capacity Limit' programmatically

2009-10-06 Thread Monika Amiss
Hello Group, since some days we use 'Group Capacity' for Workload Pricing at our z10 and with z/OS 1.8. We are very pleased with the benefits. At our shop I wrote a program to monitor our LPARs with SNMP / MRTG. I can get CEC capacity and Image capacity with a Query to Virtual Server (QVS

Re: Group Capacity Limit

2009-02-02 Thread Errol Van staden
Errol, >The best source for "detailed,specific information" about GCL is IBM, not IBM- >Main nor LPAR-Pricing. If you've noticed, not one person replying to this >thread was an IBMer. Your local IBM software pricer should be able to get >you all the answers you need that aren't covered in the S

Re: Group Capacity Limit

2009-02-02 Thread Richards, Robert B.
ama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Don Deese Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Group Capacity Limit Bob, Thanks for "jumping in" on this topic. Al Sherkow certainly has a wonderful attitude about sharing his extensive knowledge. However, as you point

Re: Group Capacity Limit

2009-02-02 Thread Don Deese
s a bit harsh, when when you started debating the answers that were "freely" given, I started to suggest you "pay" for the rest. Bob From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Errol Van staden Sent: Sat 1/31/2009 9:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.u

Re: Group Capacity Limit

2009-02-01 Thread Richards, Robert B.
of Errol Van staden Sent: Sat 1/31/2009 9:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Group Capacity Limit Fine Bob, GCL is a feature provided by IBM. I am trying to found out what its implications are, as the detail available out there is a bit sketchy. I would have loved some feedback from th

Re: Group Capacity Limit

2009-01-31 Thread Errol Van staden
Fine Bob, GCL is a feature provided by IBM. I am trying to found out what its implications are, as the detail available out there is a bit sketchy. I would have loved some feedback from the IBMers as to all the potential benefits. Is this not what this group is about? Errol, Pardon me for ju

Re: Group Capacity Limit

2009-01-30 Thread Richards, Robert B.
ginal Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Errol Van staden Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 4:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Group Capacity Limit >Greg is correct, that SCRT reports the maximum simultaneous 4HRA for each >produc

Re: Group Capacity Limit

2009-01-30 Thread Errol Van staden
for each product on the machine. > >The Group Capacity Limit is a throttle on how many MSUs a particular LPAR >can contribute to the maximum simultaneous 4HRA for each product on the >machine. An example of this is to limit *all* the testing LPARs to a >specific number of billable

Re: Group Capacity Limit

2009-01-29 Thread Al Sherkow
counter examples in my seminar). So I disagree with Errol's plan. Defined Capacity limits how many MSUs a particular LPAR can contribute to the maximum simultaneous 4HRA for each product on the machine. The Group Capacity Limit is a throttle on how many MSUs a particular LPAR can contribu

Re: Group Capacity Limit

2009-01-29 Thread Hal Merritt
f Ward, Mike S Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 8:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Group Capacity Limit Is it better not to cap when you only have 2 lpars and a single engine? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of E

Re: Group Capacity Limit

2009-01-29 Thread Greg Shirey
I believe that SCRT reports the highest *combined* rolling 4-hour average. That is, that time when both LPARS added together register the highest; not the peaks from two different times added together. Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Co. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Group Capacity Limit

2009-01-29 Thread Ward, Mike S
Is it better not to cap when you only have 2 lpars and a single engine? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Errol Van staden Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 8:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Group Capacity Limit n

Re: Group Capacity Limit

2009-01-29 Thread Errol Van staden
n Jan 27, 5:00 pm, a...@sherkow.com (Al Sherkow) wrote: > I did not see any mention in this thread of more than two LPARs, or "many > LPARs and many different customers on the Processor complex", or that you > were using softcapping on any LPAR "LPAR P typically gets soft-capped about > midd

Re: Group Capacity Limit

2009-01-29 Thread Errol Van staden
On Jan 27, 4:48 pm, allan.stal...@kbm1.com (Staller, Allan) wrote: > It seems to me that ordinary LPAR weights will do the trick. They will > allow excess capacity to be used by any/all LPARs, but enforce a max > proportional to the LPAR weight when the CEC reaches full utilization. > Set the

Re: Group Capacity Limit

2009-01-27 Thread Al Sherkow
I did not see any mention in this thread of more than two LPARs, or "many LPARs and many different customers on the Processor complex", or that you were using softcapping on any LPAR "LPAR P typically gets soft-capped about midday". So I answered two and only two LPARs with no capping of any kind

Re: Group Capacity Limit

2009-01-27 Thread Staller, Allan
It seems to me that ordinary LPAR weights will do the trick. They will allow excess capacity to be used by any/all LPARs, but enforce a max proportional to the LPAR weight when the CEC reaches full utilization. Set the weights proportionally and you should be good to go. What to do about the case

Re: Group Capacity Limit

2009-01-26 Thread Errol Van staden
On Jan 26, 6:38 pm, a...@sherkow.com (Al Sherkow) wrote: > Answer cross-posted to LPAR-PRICING-L and IBM-MAIN > As I understand your question you want LPAR P to use the excess capacity of > LPAR T but not vice versa. > Does this have anything to do with Software Pricing?? My understan

Re: Group Capacity Limit

2009-01-26 Thread Al Sherkow
Answer cross-posted to LPAR-PRICING-L and IBM-MAIN As I understand your question you want LPAR P to use the excess capacity of LPAR T but not vice versa. Does this have anything to do with Software Pricing?? LPAR T can be limited to not using P's excess with traditional LPAR hardcapping. If yo

Re: Group Capacity Limit

2009-01-25 Thread Errol Van staden
Thanks a lot for the considered reply. Thsoe book references are also welcome as I couldn't find much on redbooks or the Internet in general -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists..

Re: Group Capacity Limit

2009-01-23 Thread Edward Jaffe
Errol Van staden wrote: Hi Group! I need to implement GCL for two LPARS in a Sysplex on a single footprint z9. The two LPARs are Production (P) and TEST (T). The P LPAR should always be able to use spare capacity from the T LPAR but not vice versa. >From my research, I can achieve this by so

Group Capacity Limit

2009-01-23 Thread Errol Van staden
Hi Group! I need to implement GCL for two LPARS in a Sysplex on a single footprint z9. The two LPARs are Production (P) and TEST (T). The P LPAR should always be able to use spare capacity from the T LPAR but not vice versa. >From my research, I can achieve this by soft-capping the T LPAR at it