Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode?

2008-04-11 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode? Barbara Nitz wrote: > Use IPCS :-) option 3.5, look for the symptom

Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode?

2008-04-11 Thread Edward Jaffe
Barbara Nitz wrote: Use IPCS :-) option 3.5, look for the symptom string (after confirming the correct DAE data set) and type a T in that line. IPCS does the rest, sysplex-wide. Oh yeah. I forgot all about that interface. It requires an AUTHCMD entry for ADYOPCMD in IKJTSOxx. Too bad it s

Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode?

2008-04-10 Thread Barbara Nitz
Ed, >I can never remember the name of the REXX I have to run to work with >DAE. (I don't have it on an ISPF menu.) When I get lazy, I usually just >type "/T DAE=01". :-) Use IPCS :-) option 3.5, look for the symptom string (after confirming the correct DAE data set) and type a T in that line. IP

Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode?

2008-04-10 Thread Edward Jaffe
Barbara Nitz wrote: Ed, I bet your customer wasn't happy when you asked to reproduce the problem and give you another dump! To many customers(including me) it usually sounds like an excuse unless given a good explanation *why* storage is missing. Large shop; old school; know their stuff! W

Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode?

2008-04-10 Thread Barbara Nitz
Peter corrects my sloppy wording > The idea's right, but one minor detail: SLIP will have "issued" SDUMP. with a more detailed (and more accurate) explanation worthy of any mathematician! :-) May I blame this on not being a native speaker? (Shane always assures me I may not :-( ) Ed, I bet you

Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode?

2008-04-10 Thread Edward Jaffe
Peter Relson wrote: By the time slip got around to scheduling the actual dump request, that SRB had already run to completion The idea's right, but one minor detail: SLIP will have "issued" SDUMP. SDUMP will have done SUMLST processing, and SDUMP will have "scheduled" the rest of the dump.

Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode?

2008-04-10 Thread Peter Relson
>And as far as I know, an SRB does not get automatically suspended >just because the PER hardware detects a hit. Definitely true. PER is no more than a program check. After processing the PER interrupt control continues at the PER address (unless you've directed SLIP to do something different, such

Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode?

2008-04-09 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 04/09/2008 04:20:11 AM: > I certainly would hope that the system automatically SUMLISTs the linkage > stacks. Does the SLIP SL operand support indirect address off of control > registers? The linkage stack should be in the SUMDUMP. VERBX SUMDUMP pr

Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode?

2008-04-09 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 11:24:09 +0200 Barbara Nitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :>>Not at all. There is no "SRB" to find as the SRB block only exists while >it is on a queue. Once dispatched it is simply data. :>>The registers are consistent with the point of the trap. :>I believe that I said that. My

Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode?

2008-04-09 Thread Barbara Nitz
Binyamin, >Not at all. There is no "SRB" to find as the SRB block only exists while >it >is on a queue. Once dispatched it is simply data. >The registers are consistent with the point of the trap. I believe that I said that. My explanation wasn't really for you, it was more for those that kept

Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode?

2008-04-09 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 07:07:32 +0200 Barbara Nitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :>First, as Ed pointed out, an SSRB will only be generated when the SRB has to wait for something like a lock or get willingly suspended. The reason Tom has only seen ssrbs in his dumps may well be that they're scheduled w

Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode?

2008-04-09 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 01:15:59 -0400 "Craddock, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :>Barbara Nitz writes a nicely detailed summary :>> In that case no amount of summ format will get you the exact linkage :>stack :>> formatted automatically, as far as I know (unless the SRB abended and :>SRB- :>> to-

SRBs and sadump, was: Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode

2008-04-09 Thread Barbara Nitz
Ed, >On the bright side, people developing brand new SRB-mode infrastructures >get lots of hands-on practice with taking SADUMPs and IPLing their >systems. What fun! :-) You mean we have to expect more questions about sadumps on ibm-main? :-) The type that says 'the necessary data are not in th

Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode?

2008-04-08 Thread Edward Jaffe
Barbara Nitz wrote: First, as Ed pointed out, an SSRB will only be generated when the SRB has to wait for something like a lock or get willingly suspended. The reason Tom has only seen ssrbs in his dumps may well be that they're scheduled with the local lock (or some other lock) held, and that

Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode?

2008-04-08 Thread Craddock, Chris
Barbara Nitz writes a nicely detailed summary > In that case no amount of summ format will get you the exact linkage stack > formatted automatically, as far as I know (unless the SRB abended and SRB- > to-task percolation was done, I think). Linkage stacks get used and reused with such high freq

Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode?

2008-04-08 Thread Barbara Nitz
First, as Ed pointed out, an SSRB will only be generated when the SRB has to wait for something like a lock or get willingly suspended. The reason Tom has only seen ssrbs in his dumps may well be that they're scheduled with the local lock (or some other lock) held, and that isn't available when

Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode?

2008-04-08 Thread Binyamin Dissen
amin Dissen :>Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 9:45 AM :>To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU :>Subject: Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump :>taken in SRB mode? :>On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 08:32:49 -0500 Tom Harper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :>wrote: :>:>In every dump I&

Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode?

2008-04-08 Thread Tom Harper
stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode? On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 08:32:49 -0500 Tom Harper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :>In every dump I've seen, all SRBs are present in the form of SSRBs. Why :>this is the case I'm not one hundred per cent certain. But it works for :>me. Perha

Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode?

2008-04-08 Thread Binyamin Dissen
an IF SLIP while the SRB mode code was active? :>-Original Message- :>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On :>Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen :>Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 8:27 AM :>To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU :>Subject: Re: How to format the current l

Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode?

2008-04-08 Thread Edward Jaffe
Binyamin Dissen wrote: Why should there be an SSRB? The code running in SRB mode is active at the time the SLIP(IF) hit. Unlike a TCB, there is no control block to represent an SRB while it runs. An SSRB has to be created (acquired from an ESQA cell pool) every time the SRB waits. -- Edw

Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode?

2008-04-08 Thread Tom Harper
ware Sugar Land, TX -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 8:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode? On Tue,

Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode?

2008-04-08 Thread Binyamin Dissen
reate an SSRB for the unit of work? :>-Original Message- :>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On :>Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen :>Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 5:14 AM :>To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU :>Subject: Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP d

Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode?

2008-04-08 Thread Robert Wright
Tom Harper wrote: They should be formatted out towards the top of the SUMMARY FORMAT REGS display. Minor correction "REGS" should be "regs". The FORMAT option of the IPCS SUMMARY subcommand tolerates but ignores a "REGS" keyword as part of the invocation syntax. Formatting of registers i

Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode?

2008-04-08 Thread Tom Harper
, April 08, 2008 5:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode? On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 21:08:58 -0400 "Craddock, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :>Jim Mulder said :>Binyamin said :>> > Is there

Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode?

2008-04-08 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 21:08:58 -0400 "Craddock, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :>Jim Mulder said :>Binyamin said :>> > Is there something easier than looking at the home address space :>storage :>> off :>> > of CR15? :>> CBF cr15value ASID(x'homeasid') STR(LS) :>...or go to option 6 and iss

Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode?

2008-04-07 Thread Craddock, Chris
Jim Mulder said Binyamin said > > Is there something easier than looking at the home address space storage > off > > of CR15? > > > > CBF cr15value ASID(x'homeasid') STR(LS) ...or go to option 6 and issue "summ format regs". IPCS will format all of the linkage stack entries that exist for al

Re: How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode?

2008-04-07 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 04/07/2008 04:28:50 PM: > Is there something easier than looking at the home address space storage off > of CR15? > CBF cr15value ASID(x'homeasid') STR(LS) Jim Mulder z/OS System Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie, NY ---

How to format the current linkage stack for a SLIP dump taken in SRB mode?

2008-04-07 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Is there something easier than looking at the home address space storage off of CR15? -- Binyamin Dissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar & Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize