Re: IBM System/3 & 3277-1

2007-10-28 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
nals ... > moved all that intelligence back into the controller ... reducing amount > of electronics and manufacturing costs. with electronics moved back into > controller ... it also degraded performance and response. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#7 IBM System/3 & 3277-1 http:/

Re: IBM System/3 & 3277-1

2007-10-28 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
/www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007q.html#71 IBM System/3 & 3277-1 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#2 IBM System/3 & 3277-1 wiki mark sense page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_sense mentions that 513, 514, 557, and 519 could handle mark sense. also has pointer to 805 test scoring mac

Re: IBM System/3 & 3277-1

2007-10-27 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to comp.sys.ibm.sys3x.misc,alt.folklore.computers,bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. bbreynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This thread started about the 3277-001 used on a System/3 Model 15 > (would that be a 5415?): as 32

Re: IBM System/3 & 3277-1

2007-10-25 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:48:22 -0500, Eric Bielefeld wrote: >What do you mean by radix sort? Did anybody anwer that question yet? I didn't see one. A radix sort is one that processes each possition of the key at a time. For a decimal key it simply separates the input into 10 strings. You then

Re: IBM System/3 & 3277-1

2007-10-25 Thread Eric Bielefeld
The card sort program for the 360 Mod 20 was about 3/4 of an inch high, and you did put the sort control card if I remember right in the middle. We had a 4K machine with the MFCM and no disk or tape. Eric Bielefeld Sr. z/OS Systems Programmer Milwaukee, Wisconsin 414-475-7434 @MORE.mk.SPAMtel

Re: IBM System/3 & 3277-1

2007-10-25 Thread Howard Brazee
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:02:42 -0400, Dan Espen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Lots of shops, no disk. >Even with a disk, the sort program was loaded from cards. >I seem to remember the sort program being huge and the input >being stuffed into the middle of the deck. > >Then you had to modify the recei

Re: IBM System/3 & 3277-1

2007-10-25 Thread Eric Bielefeld
What do you mean by radix sort? Also, all the sorters I've ever seen had 12 pockets, not 10. The person Howard quoted said "the machine was the size of a wall. I've never seen a sorter I'd call that big, except a check sorter when I worked for a bank. I did lots of sorting the 8 years I was

Re: IBM System/3 & 3277-1

2007-10-25 Thread Howard Brazee
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:25:22 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >What I don't understand is pre sorting a deck that will be used as >input to the computer--couldn't the computer sort it faster than a >person could? The machine sorted strictly sequentially, while the >computer had bubble or shell sor

Re: IBM System/3 & 3277-1

2007-10-25 Thread Howard Brazee
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:12:05 -0400, Walter Bushell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >And what was the sorter? Ah, the beauties of the radix sort. This beast >put cards into 10 output slots, based on the digit in a specified >column, thus enabling sorting with tab cards and no computers. Lots of labor

Re: IBM System/3 & 3277-1

2007-10-25 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to comp.sys.ibm.sys3x.misc,alt.folklore.computers,bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > What I don't understand is pre sorting a deck that will be used as > input to the computer--couldn't the compute

Re: IBM System/3 & 3277-1

2007-10-25 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
56-byte information field > 73-80 deck id, sequence number, or both > > cols. 2-4 and 73-80 were character ... the other fields were hex. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007q.html#69 IBM System/3 & 3277-1 "txt" card decks were nearly executable output from assemblers

Re: IBM System/3 & 3277-1

2007-10-24 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
ttp://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007q.html#48 IBM System/3 & 3277-1 i eventually learned to read 12-2-9 (i.e. card punch holes for hex "02") "txt" text deck cards ... as part of multi-punch/duplicate cards and punching patches ... i had a 2000 card assembler program and it was frequently

Re: IBM System/3 & 3277-1

2007-10-19 Thread McKown, John
TIMI is what you want. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AS/400 -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential

Re: IBM System/3 & 3277-1

2007-10-19 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to comp.sys.ibm.sys3x.misc,alt.folklore.computers,bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > (For the AS/400 I never could figure the internal code architecture, > IBM used something called "LIC" that was