SV: IBMLink Outage May 4-7

2012-05-03 Thread Thomas Berg
:53 Till: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Ämne: IBMLink Outage May 4-7 27 April 2012 This is to inform you that IBMLink will have a planned outage for a system upgrade starting on Friday, May 4th at 9:00 PM MT through Monday, May 7th at 3:00 AM MT. During this time IBMLink will be down. Thank

Re: IBMLink Outage May 4-7

2012-05-03 Thread McKown, John
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBMLink Outage May 4-7 Makes you feel good about all that work we've been doing with IBM, doesn't it? You betcha. I think what aggravates me the most is that can still say it's up 24x7, because 'scheduled maintenance windows' don't count. MA

Re: IBMLink Outage May 4-7

2012-05-03 Thread Staller, Allan
In most (if not all) cases I have found the second generation tools (SIS, Support Portal, IBM Link, z/OS Internet Library,) to be inferior to the systems they replaced. Performance, availability, and ease of use have all suffered. The only item I can give a passing grade to is content. (and

Re: IBMLink Outage May 4-7

2012-05-03 Thread Ed Finnell
Yeah, I've done push/pulls on 3090's in under 48. Can't imagine what's involved. Seems like a contractual violation, maybe if their monthly stipend is similarly late they might be more motivated. In a message dated 5/3/2012 12:38:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, edja...@phoenixsoftware.com

Re: IBMLink Outage May 4-7

2012-05-03 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
4184 If you feel in control you just aren't going fast enough. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Finnell Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 12:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBMLink Outage May 4-7 Yeah, I've done

Re: IBMLink Outage May 4-7

2012-05-03 Thread Bob Rutledge
Edward Jaffe wrote: On 5/2/2012 7:27 PM, John Gilmore wrote: IBM should explain what it expects to accomplish during this--on the face of it--absurdly long interval. Absurd indeed! When was the last time one of IBM's mainframe customers enjoyed a 54-hour maintenance/upgrade outage window?

IBMLink Outage May 4-7

2012-05-02 Thread Edward Jaffe
27 April 2012 This is to inform you that IBMLink will have a planned outage for a system upgrade starting on Friday, May 4th at 9:00 PM MT through Monday, May 7th at 3:00 AM MT. During this time IBMLink will be down. Thank you for your patience and understanding. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix

Re: IBMLink Outage May 4-7

2012-05-02 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
Wow. That's...a lot of downtime. :( Do you know if that includes SR? Thanks, MA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: IBMLink Outage May 4-7

2012-05-02 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 5/2/2012 11:24 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: Wow. That's...a lot of downtime. :( Do you know if that includes SR? No idea. The news article is very brief. (See below.) https://www.ibm.com/ibmlink/news/NewsServlet.wss?referrer=newsMaincommand=Getnews_item_id=5446lc=encc=US I agree. It is a

Re: IBMLink Outage May 4-7

2012-05-02 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBMLink Outage May 4-7 On 5/2/2012 11:24 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: Wow. That's...a lot of downtime. :( Do you know if that includes SR? No idea. The news article is very brief. (See below.) https://www.ibm.com/ibmlink/news/NewsServlet.wss?referrer

Re: IBMLink Outage May 4-7

2012-05-02 Thread Clark Morris
going fast enough. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBMLink Outage May 4-7 On 5/2/2012 11:24 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: Wow. That's

Re: IBMLink Outage May 4-7

2012-05-02 Thread Gibney, Dave
In all the time I've been doing this, I would never have dared ask for outages of this magnitude. The worst I ever was part of was a couple 12-14 hour unexpected weekend days when we didn't have fall back ready. I think that was also the time after VM and before we did a sandbox LPAR, so we did

Re: IBMLink Outage May 4-7

2012-05-02 Thread Pinnacle
On 5/2/2012 5:05 PM, Jerry Whitteridge wrote: I've complained to our IBM account team repeatedly that having IBMLink have down time during the weekend when we have our changes scheduled is a big exposure. I'd love to see them move out of the window most customers have their change windows -

Re: IBMLink Outage May 4-7

2012-05-02 Thread Pinnacle
On 5/2/2012 2:25 PM, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: Wow. That's...a lot of downtime. :( Do you know if that includes SR? Thanks, MA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: IBMLink Outage May 4-7

2012-05-02 Thread Pinnacle
On 5/2/2012 2:34 PM, Edward Jaffe wrote: On 5/2/2012 11:24 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: Wow. That's...a lot of downtime. :( Do you know if that includes SR? No idea. The news article is very brief. (See below.)

Re: IBMLink Outage May 4-7

2012-05-02 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 5/2/2012 3:35 PM, Gibney, Dave wrote: With the new ERP system they are moving us to, scheduled outages of this length are routine. :( but it's better than the working legacy :) Double standard. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA

Re: IBMLink Outage May 4-7

2012-05-02 Thread Gibney, Dave
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 4:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBMLink Outage May 4-7 On 5/2/2012 3:35 PM, Gibney, Dave wrote: With the new ERP system

Re: IBMLink Outage May 4-7

2012-05-02 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
Makes you feel good about all that work we've been doing with IBM, doesn't it? You betcha. I think what aggravates me the most is that can still say it's up 24x7, because 'scheduled maintenance windows' don't count. MA -- For

Re: IBMLink Outage May 4-7

2012-05-02 Thread Clark Morris
On 2 May 2012 17:40:01 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Makes you feel good about all that work we've been doing with IBM, doesn't it? You betcha. I think what aggravates me the most is that can still say it's up 24x7, because 'scheduled maintenance windows' don't count. Maybe those

Re: IBMLink Outage May 4-7

2012-05-02 Thread John Gilmore
IBM should explain what it expects to accomplish during this--on the face of it--absurdly long interval. If IBMLink's deplorable availability will be very much improved after it, this outage may well be justifiable. If not, not. In general, it is time for more transparency about these issues;

Re: IBMLink Outage May 4-7

2012-05-02 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 5/2/2012 7:27 PM, John Gilmore wrote: IBM should explain what it expects to accomplish during this--on the face of it--absurdly long interval. Absurd indeed! When was the last time one of IBM's mainframe customers enjoyed a 54-hour maintenance/upgrade outage window? I have never seen