Re: IEHLIST LISTPDS in an SMS environment

2006-09-20 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:58:51 -0300 Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/18/2006 : at 08:45 PM, Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: :IEH utilities built its own DEB and other control blocks so that it :could access the DASD device (it didn't go through

Re: IEHLIST LISTPDS in an SMS environment

2006-09-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) said: Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:58:51 -0300 in those days there was no dynamic allocation (at least in MFT PCP) not sure about MVT as I never was exposed to it. Maybe in OS/360 release 1; certainly not in any release I ever saw. By

Re: IEHLIST LISTPDS in an SMS environment

2006-09-20 Thread Ed Gould
On Sep 20, 2006, at 2:31 AM, Binyamin Dissen wrote: On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:58:51 -0300 Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/18/2006 : at 08:45 PM, Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: :IEH utilities built its own DEB and other control blocks so that it

Re: IEHLIST LISTPDS in an SMS environment

2006-09-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/20/2006 at 07:46 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: But that leaves open the question of why it doesn't exploit the catalog when no VOL is supplied. It does, in a truly grotesque fashion. It does a LOCATE, the searches the TIOT for a ddname allocated to

Re: IEHLIST LISTPDS in an SMS environment

2006-09-19 Thread Bruce Black
With hardly any apology to John G.; things such as this make it real hard for me to take the diachronic view. Gee, Gil, if you are going to use words like diachronic you should at least provide a dictionary link gr http://www.onelook.com/?w=diachronic+ls=a -- Bruce A. Black Senior Software

IEHLIST LISTPDS in an SMS environment

2006-09-18 Thread CAPRON Romain
Hello, We're going to use SMS allocation in our z/OS 1.4 Production systems. I have a little problem: a lot of our job batch use IEHLIST utility LISTPDS command to retrieve the member list of some PDS. With this utility, you have to put the right volser to make it working... But, with our SMS

Re: IEHLIST LISTPDS in an SMS environment

2006-09-18 Thread Terry Sambrooks
Hi, In respect We're going to use SMS allocation in our z/OS 1.4 Production systems. I have a little problem: a lot of our job batch use IEHLIST utility LISTPDS command to retrieve the member list of some PDS. With this utility, you have to put the right volser to make it working... But, with

Re: IEHLIST LISTPDS in an SMS environment

2006-09-18 Thread Lizette Koehler
You have several of options. Use LISTDS as a TSO Command. You can specify it as: LISTDS “pdsname” Member This will list the data set and the PDS Members. You could then parse the list to find the member Second, get the PDS command from the CBT Tape. It will allow you to list a

Re: IEHLIST LISTPDS in an SMS environment

2006-09-18 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 11:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: IEHLIST LISTPDS in an SMS environment Hello, We're going to use SMS allocation in our z/OS 1.4 Production systems. I have a little problem: a lot of our job batch use IEHLIST utility LISTPDS command to retrieve

Re: IEHLIST LISTPDS in an SMS environment

2006-09-18 Thread Clark F Morris
@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: IEHLIST LISTPDS in an SMS environment Hello, We're going to use SMS allocation in our z/OS 1.4 Production systems. I have a little problem: a lot of our job batch use IEHLIST utility LISTPDS command to retrieve the member list of some PDS. With this utility, you have to put

Re: IEHLIST LISTPDS in an SMS environment

2006-09-18 Thread Ed Gould
- From: CAPRON Romain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 11:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: IEHLIST LISTPDS in an SMS environment Hello, We're going to use SMS allocation in our z/OS 1.4 Production systems. I have a little problem: a lot of our job batch use IEHLIST

Re: IEHLIST LISTPDS in an SMS environment

2006-09-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Ed Gould said: Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 16:39:06 -0500 On Sep 18, 2006, at 2:04 PM, Clark F Morris wrote: Isn't IEHLIST long overdue for eliminating the need for specific volume information? It is aggravations like this that make zOS look dumb to those on

Re: IEHLIST LISTPDS in an SMS environment

2006-09-18 Thread Ed Gould
This goes back to MFT (Probably) or was it PCP? IEH utilities built its own DEB and other control blocks so that it could access the DASD device (it didn't go through allocation), back in those days there was no dynamic allocation (at least in MFT PCP) not sure about MVT as I never was

Re: IEHLIST LISTPDS in an SMS environment

2006-09-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Ed Gould said: Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 20:45:37 -0500 This goes back to MFT (Probably) or was it PCP? IEH utilities built its own DEB and other control blocks so that it could access the DASD device (it didn't go through allocation), back in those days there was

Re: IEHLIST LISTPDS in an SMS environment

2006-09-18 Thread Ed Gould
On Sep 18, 2006, at 9:42 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: In a recent note, Ed Gould said: Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 20:45:37 -0500 This goes back to MFT (Probably) or was it PCP? IEH utilities built its own DEB and other control blocks so that it could access the DASD device (it didn't go