Re: IPCS WHERE and OUTTRAP

2005-09-27 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/27/2005 at 07:05 AM, Barbara Nitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Greg, in this case I believe that just about everyone using GFS >traces would be greatful for an incomplete solution. If the amount of >data could get reduced to the non-trivial cases that you mentioned >

Re: IPCS WHERE and OUTTRAP

2005-09-27 Thread Robert Wright
Barbara Nitz wrote on 09/27/2005 01:05:50 AM: > Several comments on this: > First to Bob - thanks for the explanation. That explains why I get three > responses when I ask ip w for the cvtexit address. (Or why IPCS tells me > that an ASCB address is an ASCB.) > > Shane, I don't think that IBM is i

Re: IPCS WHERE and OUTTRAP

2005-09-26 Thread Barbara Nitz
Several comments on this: First to Bob - thanks for the explanation. That explains why I get three responses when I ask ip w for the cvtexit address. (Or why IPCS tells me that an ASCB address is an ASCB.) Shane, I don't think that IBM is implementing this yet, it was just a request and Bob allude

Re: IPCS WHERE and OUTTRAP

2005-09-26 Thread Shane Ginnane
> > The formatting is excellent - the filtering is non-existent. > > As I alluded earlier, the prime (extra) functionality I see as required > "in > > the field" is the ability to identify storage "leaks". An option to > > eliminate all "matched" get-free pairs would go a *LONG* way to achieving >

Re: IPCS WHERE and OUTTRAP

2005-09-26 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 19:59:17 -0700, Greg Dyck wrote: >I believe IBM research[ed] has dabbled with this, but it is a non-trivial >task to do by IBM or by others. Some of the complications that >immediately come to mind are being able to free 8 byte multiple of >storage at a time independent of the

Re: IPCS WHERE and OUTTRAP

2005-09-26 Thread Greg Dyck
> The formatting is excellent - the filtering is non-existent. > As I alluded earlier, the prime (extra) functionality I see as required "in > the field" is the ability to identify storage "leaks". An option to > eliminate all "matched" get-free pairs would go a *LONG* way to achieving > this goal

Re: IPCS WHERE and OUTTRAP

2005-09-26 Thread ibm-main
From: "Robert Wright" > Other than generic support in service aids components, I think that all GFS > trace data collection and formatting support is shipped via the VSM > component. Did you have something in mind that the service aids components > could do to support such things better? Or do y

Re: IPCS WHERE and OUTTRAP

2005-09-26 Thread Robert Wright
Shane wrote on 09/26/2005 08:39:00 AM: > > Now Bob, about some decent IPCS support for those GFS traces ... > Other than generic support in service aids components, I think that all GFS trace data collection and formatting support is shipped via the VSM component. Did you have something in mind th

Re: IPCS WHERE and OUTTRAP

2005-09-26 Thread ibm-main
From: "Robert Wright" > ... > As you and others have described what you'd like SYSTRACE to do, SYSTRACE > would use module filtering in its calls to the WHERE service routine > because it would want answers pertaining to modules and would not be > interested in answers pertaining to AREAs or STRUCT

Re: IPCS WHERE and OUTTRAP

2005-09-26 Thread Robert Wright
Barbara Nitz wrote on 09/26/2005 07:13:24 AM: > > >Some have suggested that we add an option to WHERE, > >filtering based on data type. The most common filter that has been > >proposed is a MODULE data type filter. It would be interesting to hear > >opinions on this suggestion from regular IBM-MAI

Re: IPCS WHERE and OUTTRAP

2005-09-26 Thread Barbara Nitz
>Go through a SYSTRACE and parse out the trace entries of interest, >then do IP WHERES on the PSW addresses to get the displacements in the >modules. Generate side by side listing of trace entry, psw address, r15, >r0, r1 and the module name and displacement. That is one thing I had written a verb

Re: IPCS WHERE and OUTTRAP

2005-09-25 Thread Robert Wright
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote on 09/22/2005 01:58:42 PM: > > If WHERE uses TPUT directly then you can still capture the output if > you run under Session Manager. You'll need a special logon proc. > Apologies for not being clearer in my previous response. I should not have used "level" and "ser

Re: IPCS WHERE and OUTTRAP

2005-09-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/23/2005 at 10:49 AM, Robert Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >You're one level of service off. Not really; my statement as written ("If ...") is valid for both old and new service levels. BTW, you might want to provide the PTF numbers for those who are backlevel.

Re: IPCS WHERE and OUTTRAP

2005-09-23 Thread Robert Wright
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote on 09/22/2005 01:58:42 PM: > > If WHERE uses TPUT directly then you can still capture the output if > you run under Session Manager. You'll need a special logon proc. > You're one level of service off. WHERE and the rest of line mode IPCS use TSO I/O service routin

Re: IPCS WHERE and OUTTRAP

2005-09-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/21/2005 at 05:08 AM, "Kenneth J. Kripke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Apologies on the previous two incomplete posts. >Question: Is there a way to capture the results of an IP WHERE from a >REXX EXEC running under IPCS and store it in a REXX variable? >I don't think

Re: IPCS WHERE and OUTTRAP

2005-09-21 Thread Shane Ginnane
Generally IPCS is a fine tool - but there are situations where it just ain't shaped to fit. UGLY - I'll tell you ugly. Try parsing a (large) GFS trace for non-matching get/frees - from TCBs that had a life not much longer than the duration of the obtained storage. You might be surprised how often

Re: IPCS WHERE and OUTTRAP

2005-09-21 Thread Robert Wright
Binyamin Dissen wrote on 09/21/2005 08:34:56 AM: > On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 04:15:07 -0700 "Kenneth J. Kripke" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > :>The Question: Is there a clean way to capture the results from an > IP WHERE command. > > Look at the EVAL* subcommands. > In the case of the WHERE subcomm

Re: IPCS WHERE and OUTTRAP

2005-09-21 Thread Robert Wright
Kenneth J. Kripke wrote on 09/21/2005 08:08:40 AM: > Question: Is there a way to capture the results of an IP WHERE from > a REXX EXEC > running under IPCS and store it in a REXX variable? > I don't think the command uses PUTLINE to put the message out, but, I could be > wrong. > The Goal: Go thro

Re: IPCS WHERE and OUTTRAP

2005-09-21 Thread Robert Wright
Kenneth J. Kripke wrote on 09/21/2005 06:56:49 AM: > Question: Trapping/capturing output from an IPCS WHERE command. Answer: (Ugly) SYSOUTTRAP in CLIST and REXX work fine in batch and interactive line mode. Unfortunately, most IPCS use takes place from the IPCS dialog, and the "trapping" of ter

Re: IPCS WHERE and OUTTRAP

2005-09-21 Thread Robert Wright
Kenneth J. Kripke wrote on 09/21/2005 07:15:07 AM: > The Question: Is there a clean way to capture the results from an > IP WHERE command. The WHERE subcommand, like many IPCS subcommands uses symbol X as well as its return code to make its results available to a command procedure. There is a di

Re: IPCS WHERE and OUTTRAP

2005-09-21 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 04:15:07 -0700 "Kenneth J. Kripke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :>The Question: Is there a clean way to capture the results from an IP WHERE command. Look at the EVAL* subcommands. -- Binyamin Dissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software

IPCS WHERE and OUTTRAP

2005-09-21 Thread Kenneth J. Kripke
Apologies on the previous two incomplete posts. Question: Is there a way to capture the results of an IP WHERE from a REXX EXEC running under IPCS and store it in a REXX variable? I don't think the command uses PUTLINE to put the message out, but, I could be wrong. The Goal: Go through a SYSTRACE a

Re: IPCS WHERE and OUTTRAP

2005-09-21 Thread Don Poitras
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > The Question: Is there a clean way to capture the results from an IP WHERE > command. Just add 'print' to the command to have it go to the file allocated to IPCSPRNT. If you don't want to see the output on your terminal, add 'noterm'. ip w x print not

IPCS WHERE and OUTTRAP

2005-09-21 Thread Kenneth J. Kripke
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IPCS WHERE and OUTTRAP

2005-09-21 Thread Kenneth J. Kripke
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