I agree.. binary / ascii transmission issue? aka went thru conversion and
didn't need to? Tag on file is wrong and autoconvert is on?
-Rob
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We've recently been migrating our z/OS system from
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It's
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This looks to me as if there is some ASCII/EBCDIC conversion missing.
Do you have some
Replying to my first post about a Java compile
program, several people suggested it was a
codepage issue. And that was my first thought,
too, since I had been experimenting with
various code pages in my emulator.
However, with codepages matching in both the
old and the new system, I cut and
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Replying to my first post about a Java compile
program, several people suggested it was a
codepage issue
The command is java HelloWorld - leave out the .class
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Replying to my first
Barkow, Eileen wrote:
The command is java HelloWorld - leave out the .class
Duh! You're right. And I knew that. Just wasn't thinking.
Guess it was a shallower Java problem, not a deeper one!
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Steve,
Just for the sake of elimination and general distrust..
What happens if you do
/u/Java6_31/J6.0/bin/java /u/Java6_31/J6.0/HelloWorld.class
java /u/Java6_31/J6.0/HelloWorld.class
Personally, I try to always start at the lowest point and work my way up.
When it is weird, trust
*Ouch*
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The command is java HelloWorld - leave out the .class
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I just ran into a java issue doing an install that required. The HFS file was
not mountedi had to mount it in USS and then tried it and it worked fine.
Scott J Ford
and the directory entries on USS empty...
Scott J Ford
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I just ran into a java issue doing an install that required. The HFS file
This was in a pre-canned z/OS ADCD system...I just wanted to offer any help I
could...
Scott J Ford
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We are running on an IBM system at Dallas. They do the
configuring. We can make requests but we pretty much
Well, I wanted everyone to know the tech rep from the
Dallas center figured out why I had trouble with my
java compiles, and why adding the 'cp' flag allowed
compiles to work:
I noticed '/u/Java6_31/J6.0/src.zip' as part of your CLASSPATH!
I reset the CLASSPATH to the same as you have it
We've recently been migrating our z/OS system from
our Thinkpad under FLEX-ES to the IBM Dallas center.
It's actually going pretty well, but now I'm having a problem
doing a simple Java compile. Here's what happens:
=== javac cgijava1.java
java/io/PrintStream.java(java/io:PrintStream.java):1:
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We've recently been migrating our z/OS system from
our Thinkpad under FLEX-ES to the IBM Dallas center.
It's actually going pretty well, but now I'm having a problem
doing a simple Java compile. Here's what
What does the Java source look like ?
Scott J Ford
John,
What does the Java source look like ?
Scott J Ford
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We've recently been migrating our z/OS system from
our Thinkpad under FLEX-ES to the IBM Dallas center
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/13/2007
at 11:27 AM, Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
This really rubs me the wrong way, not because it isn't true,
Of course it's true, it's just not a valid excuse for refusing to work on
a problem when it isn't possible to provide a test case. The quote
Timothy,
I agree, except:
1) Its not simple :-)
2) The ported tools and toys are not released by IBM as a product. I
still don't believe that IBM has released any GPL-licensed z/OS tools as
products.Probably my fault... it would have been more clear if I would
have said supported products.
*They told me most of their support effort involves wading through source
code to see what might be going wrong. (No wonder they move so slowly!!!) I
almost laughed out loud! Their dump reading skill shortage was so acute,
the managers were convinced that dumps were useless clumps of bits
Timothy,
I'm sorry to disagree, but its not as simple as you would suggest.
Just because Sun releases the source code for JDK 7 under GPL, it doesn't
mean that they can't also license to IBM under a different license. Sun
has already indicated that they will continue to distribute Java under
On 19 Dec 2007 07:28:37 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Glen
Gasior) wrote:
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I think the Broncos running back Travis Henry tried that.
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Kirk, I tried to phrase my (limited) answer succinctly yet accurately, but
it seems I didn't entirely succeed.
The case you're describing is where the original author of the code (Sun in
this case) (also) releases their code under non-GPL terms. In that case,
it's not GPL code, is it? :-) (That
Having pretty much vowed not to get involved with this thread any more, I
will have one last say.
My plan for 2008 is to see if I can get the idea of officialcourses
and/or presentations on how to debug z/OS Java abends (tools, techniques),
Out-of-Memory (Java and native), how to read
On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 10:02 +, Michael Poil wrote:
How do you guys look for Java stuff (outside the ever-present Google of
course), how could IBM anchor this kind of information?
Both the z/OS and zfavorites (sic) (home-)pages have Java links - maybe
the latter is better setup for this.
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Out-of-Memory (Java and native), how to read verbosegc etc
Subject: Re: Java Problem Analysis
On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 10:02 +, Michael Poil wrote:
How do you guys look for Java stuff (outside the ever-present Google
of course), how could IBM anchor this kind of information?
Both the z/OS and zfavorites (sic) (home-)pages have Java links - maybe
also
help.
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I have tried to use the heap dump analyzer off the ISA before, but had
trouble with it never giving me anything useful (probably me not knowing
how to use it correctly). I found I had a lot of the same objects, but
could never get it to show me the name of the object. If there were
things to
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I have tried to use the heap dump analyzer off the ISA before, but had
trouble with it never giving me anything useful (probably me not knowing
how to use it correctly). I found I had a lot of the same objects, but
could never get it to show me the name
John McKown asks:
Since SUN is now open sourcing Java, I wonder if IBM will start
supplying the source to their port.
I don't know the answer directly. However, note that GPL (GNU Public
License) code provides access to source code. So if IBM or anyone else
modifies someone else's GPL code, you
---snip-
I guess misery really does love company! I feel better that I am not the
only one banging his/her head against a wall.
--unsnip---
Mighty convoluted wall; even reaches here. Can you hear the thumping
from here??
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:27:45 +0100, Barbara Nitz nitz-
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Quote from the diagnosis book:
It is easier for IBM Service to solve a problem when a test case is
available. Include a test case with your problem report wherever
possible.
This really rubs me the wrong way, not
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:11:34 -0600, Aaron Walker
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And speaking of wacky software, I may be one of the few people who
don't get these babies as emails - I use the web interface. I'm using
IE6, and when it displays full-width postings, often it will duplicate
some of the
On 17 Dec 2007 07:24:45 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron Walker)
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And speaking of wacky software, I may be one of the few people who
don't get these babies as emails - I use the web interface. I'm using
IE6, and when it displays full-width postings, often it will duplicate
some of the words
I recall in 1988 having some software step on an idcams control block that
was part of chain that dynamically grew and shrunk depending on how the
dataset was accessed. It only happened about every three months and by the
time the traps were fine-tuned to catch it, the software was all replaced
Two very large mainframe DB2 shops last year were experiencing failures in
virtual coupling facilities under VM, they could not duplicate the problem
at all. By sheer coincidence, the problem was reproduced during system
verification test of WebSphere 6.0.1 and the VM people copied the entire
Ed,
There's not much you can do when the skills shortage affects all levels
of an organization. I tried my best to convince them that effective dump
analysis is what makes z/OS a robust platform and that such skills
should be emphasized. I doubt they ever fully understood the point I was
trying
I can sympathize Ed. We were on the edge with WebSphere on z/OS when I believe
the freeware, v3.02, came out in 2001 and we had quite a time with problems and
support on all sides including my own due to lack of practical experience. When
I recommended, in a call to developers at our corporate
Quote from the diagnosis book:
It is easier for IBM Service to solve a problem when a test case is available.
Include a test case with your problem report wherever possible.
This really rubs me the wrong way, not because it isn't true, but because to me
it sounds like justification why these
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Quote from the diagnosis book:
It is easier for IBM Service to solve
Barbara Nitz wrote:
Quote from the diagnosis book:
It is easier for IBM Service to solve a problem when a test case is available.
Include a test case with your problem report wherever possible.
This really rubs me the wrong way, not because it isn't true, but because to me
it sounds like
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