Re: Moving to an outsourcing datacenter

2011-05-24 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
I was once (20 odd years ago) involved in moving a datacenter from one city to another. 9 months+ of planning... We took backup on tape cartridges of everything, moved the cartridges and the physical DASD boxes by (separate) truck. But we had a new CEC with some new DASD already up running

Re: Moving to an outsourcing datacenter

2011-05-24 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jan MOEYERSONS [jan.moeyers...@adelior.be] Sent: 24 May 2011 18:41 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Moving to an outsourcing datacenter I was once (20 odd years ago) involved in moving a datacenter from one city to another. 9 months

Re: Moving to an outsourcing datacenter

2011-05-23 Thread Alan Schenck
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Re: Moving to an outsourcing datacenter

2011-05-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
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Moving to an outsourcing datacenter

2011-05-20 Thread Lindy Mayfield
When a company decides to move their datacenter to the datacenter of an outsourcing company, how do they do it? How do they move all that data from one location to the other? Regards, Lindy -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: Moving to an outsourcing datacenter

2011-05-20 Thread Donnelly, John P
Simple answer; disk and tape(storage) replication for all operating platforms. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 9:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Moving to an outsourcing

Re: Moving to an outsourcing datacenter

2011-05-20 Thread Barkow, Eileen
-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Donnelly, John P Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 1:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Moving to an outsourcing datacenter Simple answer; disk and tape(storage) replication for all operating platforms. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Moving to an outsourcing datacenter

2011-05-20 Thread Lindy Mayfield
, 2011 8:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Moving to an outsourcing datacenter Simple answer; disk and tape(storage) replication for all operating platforms. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield Sent

Re: Moving to an outsourcing datacenter

2011-05-20 Thread Lindy Mayfield
PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Moving to an outsourcing datacenter But the network part of things is a lot more complicated. New lines and network definitions may have to be installed for SNA and IP addresses changed for web applications. Similar to doing a DR test at remote sites

Re: Moving to an outsourcing datacenter

2011-05-20 Thread Chris Hoelscher
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Barkow, Eileen Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 1:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Moving to an outsourcing datacenter But the network part of things is a lot more complicated. New lines and network definitions may have to be installed for SNA

Re: Moving to an outsourcing datacenter

2011-05-20 Thread Scott Ford
Subject: Re: Moving to an outsourcing datacenter network i understand.  i was just thinking what physically gets moved over.  They mirror to new volumes then take them over to the next place? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf

Re: Moving to an outsourcing datacenter

2011-05-20 Thread Lindy Mayfield
to tie up loose ends. Testing, etc. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 8:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Moving to an outsourcing datacenter Yeah, this is a complex task. Been

Re: Moving to an outsourcing datacenter

2011-05-20 Thread Mark Post
On 5/20/2011 at 12:44 PM, Lindy Mayfield lindy.mayfi...@ssf.sas.com wrote: When a company decides to move their datacenter to the datacenter of an outsourcing company, how do they do it? How do they move all that data from one location to the other? When I was at EDS, we used tape

Re: Moving to an outsourcing datacenter

2011-05-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
@bama.ua.edu Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 10:12:44 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Moving to an outsourcing datacenter Simple answer; disk and tape(storage) replication for all operating platforms. -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: Moving to an outsourcing datacenter

2011-05-20 Thread Mark Zelden
For one migration I did, we used EMC SRDF to copy to another local set of boxes. On move day, the drives were removed and flown to the new location and put in empty frames. So no dump/restore. It was cheaper than replicating all the data across a network link with the bandwidth needed, and