Re: DB2 pre-compile V7 bind and run V8?

2007-02-16 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL [ snip ] The senior DBA is highly skilled. I have no reason to distrust his statements. Maybe I should dig a little? Question everything. Especially if it sounds illogical. -jc-

Re: DB2 pre-compile V7 bind and run V8?

2007-02-15 Thread Mike Bell
yes - and it has always been that way. You do not have to recompile your programs just because you have a new DB2 release nor do you have to relink them. With V8, there is a suggestion that it is best to REBIND them, but that is still not a requirement. There are DB2 programs that have not

Re: DB2 pre-compile V7 bind and run V8?

2007-02-15 Thread David Day
My experience with DB2 prior to V8 was that is was downward compatible, as long as the load libraries used to establish the thread were at the highest level you were wanting to connect to. Can't use Vn libraries to connect to a Vn+1 DB2, but can use Vn+1 to create a thread on a Vn DB2. V8 has

Re: DB2 pre-compile V7 bind and run V8?

2007-02-15 Thread Charles Mills
compatibility, but it's also something of a special case. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Bell Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 1:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DB2 pre-compile V7 bind and run V8

Re: DB2 pre-compile V7 bind and run V8?

2007-02-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL
There are DB2 programs that have not been precompiled or compiled in a decade and still run. NOT anymore. Yes the generated code (mostly the generated plist) has version identifiers in it and as far as I know, IBM will take an apar if the program doesn't work. IBM has told us no COBOL/VS, no

Re: DB2 pre-compile V7 bind and run V8?

2007-02-15 Thread Charles Mills
pre-compile V7 bind and run V8? There are DB2 programs that have not been precompiled or compiled in a decade and still run. NOT anymore. Yes the generated code (mostly the generated plist) has version identifiers in it and as far as I know, IBM will take an apar if the program doesn't work

Re: DB2 pre-compile V7 bind and run V8?

2007-02-15 Thread Charles Mills
@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DB2 pre-compile V7 bind and run V8? There are DB2 programs that have not been precompiled or compiled in a decade and still run. NOT anymore. Yes the generated code (mostly the generated plist) has version identifiers in it and as far as I know, IBM will take an apar

Re: DB2 pre-compile V7 bind and run V8?

2007-02-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL
REALLY No program compiled under older COBOL is supported for RUNNING under DB2 V8??? That's what we were told. We have over 6,000 programmes and we re-compile about a third each year. But, it's the same third. We are sizing the re-compile/test effort. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: DB2 pre-compile V7 bind and run V8?

2007-02-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Ted, the **pre-compiler** appears to not support preparing source code for old COBOLs. Is that what you meant? I meant you have to be at Enterprise COBOL V3.3 or higher. I am not leading the conversion. Our DBA's are, and I am getting this from them. We are sizing the re-compile effort. The

Re: DB2 pre-compile V7 bind and run V8?

2007-02-15 Thread Mike Bell
More Detail - Old load modules can access DB2 if they have the supporting libraries to run. Still in the manuals - still supported. The interface to DB2 is a module called DSNHLI - It hasn't changed for ages. Now what it does is load the real processing module from steplib, joblib, or wherever

Re: DB2 pre-compile V7 bind and run V8?

2007-02-15 Thread Charles Mills
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 3:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DB2 pre-compile V7 bind and run V8? REALLY No program compiled under older COBOL is supported

Re: DB2 pre-compile V7 bind and run V8?

2007-02-15 Thread Charles Mills
@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DB2 pre-compile V7 bind and run V8? Ted, the **pre-compiler** appears to not support preparing source code for old COBOLs. Is that what you meant? I meant you have to be at Enterprise COBOL V3.3 or higher. I am not leading the conversion. Our DBA's are, and I am getting

Re: DB2 pre-compile V7 bind and run V8?

2007-02-15 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Software LLC NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DB2 pre-compile V7 bind and run V8? Ted, you might