Re: IBM Journals availability

2009-05-08 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
On Thu, 7 May 2009 09:47:10 -0500, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com wrote: 4) Using the User Agent switcher, pick the Googlebot user agent string. 5) Now open the pdf link above. enjoy. But... isn't that stealing? Jantje. --

Re: IBM Journals availability

2009-05-08 Thread Bob Shannon
But... isn't that stealing? I would argue that all of the issues previously available for free should have remained free, and that the subscription should only apply to future issues. Of course hiding this information from customers, and from potential customers, is incredibly stupid and short

Re: IBM Journals availability

2009-05-08 Thread Kirk Wolf
A good question. The answer probably lies in the legal interpretation of the site terms of use. You could probably be sued under the DMCA. A more interesting question to me is whether Google is violating IBM's terms of use by re-publishing the documents in HTML: This site and all content

Re: IBM Journals availability

2009-05-08 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 5/8/2009 6:27:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time, bshan...@rocketsoftware.com writes: Of course hiding this information from customers, and from potential customers, is incredibly stupid and short sighted. I was trying to come up with a virtual agreement that would

Re: IBM Journals availability

2009-05-08 Thread Eric Bielefeld
talking about. Eric Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Programmer Milwaukee, Wisconsin 414-475-7434 - Original Message - From: Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com Subject: Re: IBM Journals availability I would argue that all of the issues previously available for free should have remained

Re: IBM Journals availability

2009-05-08 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 8 May 2009 05:19:27 -0500, Jan MOEYERSONS jan.moeyers...@adelior.be wrote: On Thu, 7 May 2009 09:47:10 -0500, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com wrote: 4) Using the User Agent switcher, pick the Googlebot user agent string. 5) Now open the pdf link above. enjoy. But... isn't that

Re: IBM Journals availability

2009-05-08 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
Apparently IBM wants Google to be able to read and index these PDFs and draw users of its search engine to its site (without paying Google), so that it can try to collect $995 / year for a subscription to the content. That would imply that those braindead bean counters know about that path into

Re: IBM Journals availability

2009-05-08 Thread Eric Bielefeld
AM Subject: Re: IBM Journals availability -Original Message- I assume that this is a different magazine than the one you've been talking about. Indeed. You got Popular Science instead of Scientific American. :-) -jc

Re: IBM Journals availability

2009-05-07 Thread David Crayford
Kirk Wolf wrote: Pretty funny - if you find an IBM research journal article in Google and try to click on the pdf, then you get the please send your $$$ page. BUT - if you click in Google's View as HTML link, then you can see the HTML version of the article. Google builds an HTML version as

Re: IBM Journals availability

2009-05-07 Thread Kirk Wolf
David, Here's a step-by-step: 1) Google z10 prefetch and you will find (today) the first hit to be a link to an IBM Journal article: http://www.research.ibm.com/journal/rd/531/jackson.pdf If you click on it, you get the Attention please send money page :-( But if you click in Google's

Re: IBM Journals availability

2009-05-06 Thread Kirk Wolf
Pretty funny - if you find an IBM research journal article in Google and try to click on the pdf, then you get the please send your $$$ page. BUT - if you click in Google's View as HTML link, then you can see the HTML version of the article. Google builds an HTML version as it crawls and

Re: IBM Journals availability

2009-04-21 Thread Tom Harper
] On Behalf Of Ed Finnell Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 9:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBM Journals availability In a message dated 4/16/2009 12:04:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, peter.hunke...@credit-suisse.com writes: to understand how important it is, especially for the z plattform

Re: IBM Journals availability

2009-04-21 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 4/21/2009 12:24:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tom.har...@neonesoft.com writes: I can now get to the journals once again. It's not clear if this was a mistake, or whether they reversed course. I guess we'll start seeing adds for Prep-h and lipitor shortly? Chuckle

Re: IBM Journals availability

2009-04-21 Thread Jan Vanbrabant
?? I can't. Jan I can now get to the journals once again. It's not clear if this was a mistake, or whether they reversed course. Tom Harper IMS Utilities Development Team Neon Enterprise Software Sugar Land, TX

Re: IBM Journals availability

2009-04-21 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 4/21/2009 2:28:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jan.vanbrab...@telenet.be writes: I can't. Jan Yeah, my usual path is thru almaden.ibm.com and it still has the Available for a fee blather. Wonder what path Tom is using? **A Good Credit Score is 700 or

Re: IBM Journals availability

2009-04-21 Thread John McKown
Is this the site? http://www.research.ibm.com/journal/rdindex.html or maybe http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/ -- John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu

Re: IBM Journals availability

2009-04-21 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 4/21/2009 2:56:02 P.M. Central Daylight Time, joa...@swbell.net writes: http://www.research.ibm.com/journal/rdindex.html or maybe _http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/_ (http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/) 1st site gets me into Journal room but after clicking

Re: IBM Journals availability

2009-04-17 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 4/16/2009 12:04:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, peter.hunke...@credit-suisse.com writes: to understand how important it is, especially for the z plattform, to get new interested people aboard. Freely available documentation is one pile of that. Too bad the bean counters are

Re: IBM Journals availability

2009-04-16 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
Agreed this is not good.. There are still far too many ignorant managers out there who subbornly refuse to understand how important it is, especially for the z plattform, to get new interested people aboard. Freely available documentation is one pile of that. Too bad the bean counters are

Re: IBM Journals availability

2009-04-15 Thread Knutson, Sam
Agreed this is not good. It speaks to pressure against all corners of the business to produce revenue without thought to benefits to IBM and it's customers that are harder to quantify. It is short sighted and I would wager that many inside IBM would not view it as the best way to leverage

Re: IBM Journals availability

2009-04-14 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 09:19:31 -0500, John Ticic wrote: it looks like one of my favorite sources of information is no longer available for free. Access to the IBM Journal of Research and Development is now only available for a subscription fee (the Systems Journal has been integrated into the