Re: List spam

2011-01-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4d359646.3000...@trainersfriend.com, on 01/18/2011 at 06:31 AM, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com said: On the other hand, some email providers are over-ambitious in their blocking. I wish I had one like that ;-) I'm leading a tour to Japan this fall and when I send emails to the

Re: List spam

2011-01-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In aanlktinpdwgfgumjbvlpseb5uovjghuv9irrx_suu...@mail.gmail.com, on 01/18/2011 at 10:48 AM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said: Yep. I signed up for a topica.com email group. They have issues. I bet the people marking it as spame has signed up for the list then marked an email as

Re: List spam

2011-01-19 Thread Ed Gould
--- On Tue, 1/18/11, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote: ANIP--- Yep.  I signed up for a topica.com email group.  Suddenly I stopped getting their messages.  I went to the web page and found message had been sent.  I complained to my web provider that I was not

Re: List spam

2011-01-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 63f312e6f4b4674a8f5ac4512c47ec8003e0e23...@mx06a.corp.emc.com, on 01/14/2011 at 02:05 PM, Stan Weyman stan.wey...@emc.com said: I am also a realist and this appears to be somewhat accepted in the world of email. No. It's accepted in the sleazy advertising community, not in the e-mail

Re: List spam

2011-01-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In b282be35b5a4494894d4ecfba2bf7847180c7f0...@xch-nw-17v.nw.nos.boeing.com, on 01/15/2011 at 05:45 PM, Schwarz, Barry A barry.a.schw...@boeing.com said: What happened to the common and effective advice - If you receive spam, hit delete and move on. To every complex question there is an

Re: List spam

2011-01-18 Thread Steve Comstock
On 1/17/2011 8:49 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In b282be35b5a4494894d4ecfba2bf7847180c7f0...@xch-nw-17v.nw.nos.boeing.com, on 01/15/2011 at 05:45 PM, Schwarz, Barry Abarry.a.schw...@boeing.com said: What happened to the common and effective advice - If you receive spam, hit delete

Re: List spam

2011-01-18 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I wonder how many valid emails are not getting through because of false-positive results in some spam sensing algorithm. I have always wondered the same thing since a time when our service provider started using a metric of percentage of messages filtered by the spam filter(s) as an indication

Re: List spam

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Schwab
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: I wonder how many valid emails are not getting through because of false-positive results in some spam sensing algorithm. I have always wondered the same thing since a time when our service provider started using a metric

Re: List spam

2011-01-16 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Vernooij, CP - SPLXM Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote in message news:1294994009.4d300a5943...@postoffice.tpg.com.au... Any/every-one else getting spammed by recoveryknowledge ?. Must have been done as a

Re: List spam

2011-01-15 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Linda Mooney wrote:  but because they lied by claiming that I had subscribed. Yes, they also LIED to me saying I have subscribed and that my employer will pay discounted amounts too, just because I subscribed. That 'discount' thing made me to reach for the DELETE button and blacklist this

Re: List spam

2011-01-15 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 1/15/2011 1:28 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Persons here in IBM-MAIN post regurlarly about training, upcoming events and products. I tolerate them because they are honest and offering ideas and advices here. Not to mention that they first ask permission to post blatant ads! Gerhard

Re: List spam

2011-01-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Not to mention that they first ask permission to post blatant ads! Not all! - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message:

Re: List spam

2011-01-15 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 2:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: List spam Not to mention that they first ask permission to post blatant ads! Not all

Re: List spam

2011-01-14 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote in message news:1294994009.4d300a5943...@postoffice.tpg.com.au... Any/every-one else getting spammed by recoveryknowledge ?. Must have been done as a harvesting of the list as both addresses I use to post have been hit. No way I would have signed up

Re: List spam

2011-01-14 Thread Stephen Mednick
Shane, Spammed me too using my unique IBM-MAIN subscription email address. Stephen Mednick Computer Supervisory Services Sydney, Australia Asia/Pacific representatives for Innovation Data Processing, Inc. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: List spam

2011-01-14 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Shane Ginnane wrote: Any/every-one else getting spammed by recoveryknowledge ?. Yes. And I wasted precious seconds to review that thing in my Junk folder and delete it. Only 5 and half seconds of my life were wasted to get rid of this bored spammer! ;-D It took me a half minute to write

Re: List spam

2011-01-14 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Vernooij, CP wrote: I hope they respect my unsubscribe. Perhaps not. Your address are now probably marked as 'live' and you will be spammed properly... Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: List spam

2011-01-14 Thread Steve Comstock
On 1/14/2011 1:33 AM, Shane Ginnane wrote: Any/every-one else getting spammed by recoveryknowledge ?. Must have been done as a harvesting of the list as both addresses I use to post have been hit. No way I would have signed up (twice) for DB2 paraphernalia. Probably seen it before and just

Re: List spam

2011-01-14 Thread Avram Friedman
I would not consider a rare work related email as a spam attack. Most firms that seek new clients engage in some form of targeted advertising. There are a few things that seperate the email from Recovery Knowelage from spam. 1. Appears to to a rare event. 2. It is targeted and directed ...

Re: List spam

2011-01-14 Thread Stan Weyman
lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Avram Friedman Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 9:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: List spam I

Re: List spam

2011-01-14 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Avram Friedman Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 9:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: List spam I would not consider a rare work related email as a spam attack. Most firms that seek new clients engage in some form of targeted

Re: List spam

2011-01-14 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip-- Any/every-one else getting spammed by recoveryknowledge ?. Must have been done as a harvesting of the list as both addresses I use to post have been hit. No way I would have signed up (twice) for DB2 paraphernalia.

Re: List spam

2011-01-14 Thread Stan Weyman
: Friday, January 14, 2011 10:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: List spam Stan, I agree. There are always some grey areas (or grey persons, who besides plugging their training company also provide useful contributions ;-)). However this is indiscriminate spanning to z/OS customers

Re: List spam

2011-01-14 Thread Bob Rutledge
Shane Ginnane wrote: Any/every-one else getting spammed by recoveryknowledge ?. Yes, but I found it mildly amusing... Hello Deer Recovery Knowledge an IBM Business Partner is offering an unbelievable (No License Charge) discount on all our DB2 Automated Tools to IX Netcom. Bob

Re: List spam

2011-01-14 Thread Linda Mooney
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 11:05:24 AM Subject: Re: List spam   I would go so far as to say I wouldn't rule a company like this out but I still take some exception to the back door method used to send out their message, after getting their email list (I'm sure

Re: List spam

2011-01-14 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In listserv%201101140850499626.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 01/14/2011 at 08:50 AM, Avram Friedman ibmsysp...@geek-sites.com said: Most firms that seek new clients engage in some form of targeted advertising. Spam is a good way to lose potential business. There are a few things that seperate the

Re: List spam

2011-01-14 Thread Tony Harminc
On 14 January 2011 15:15, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net wrote: Well, I would rule them out, not because they obviously harvested this list - but because they  lied by  claiming that I had subscribed.  T he email address I use for this list is ONLY used for that purpose, never