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with power. And don't
forget your HVAC capacity.
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In a message dated 4/28/2009 8:28:57 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
tad...@cvps.com writes:
So yes capacity planners need to be concerned with power. And don't
forget your HVAC capacity.
They're not as prevalent as they once were, but each IBM branch has
(or has access to) an
--snip
Getting back to the comment about the proliferation of ( usually wintel)
single application servers. In my experience, this occurred because
different business units liked having and controlling their own
---snip--
They're not as prevalent as they once were, but each IBM branch has (or
has access to) an Environmental specialist. They're a good resource and
will assist as much as you can stand. Power, HVAC, water, ventilation,
In a message dated 4/28/2009 12:56:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
rfocht...@ync.net writes:
Saw it happen once and it's NOT a very pretty sight. Just glad I wasn't
in charge of the planning, etc. VBG
Seen a few raised floors buckle. Made us buy extra supports for 3090
then didn't use
Imagine, if you can, the hair-pulling and teeth gnashing if the little-server
boys had to jump through the same hoops!
They're going to have to, eventually.
In today's economic climate, power is becoming a limited commodity.
We had a problem, a few years ago, where HP was not able to deliver
be interesting how this shakes out.
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Ted MacNEIL
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 2:02 PM
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Subject: Re: Power Capacity Planning (was Slightly off topic power limits)
Imagine
Forgot to mention, building and fire codes.
We had a fire code issue when ESCON first came out.
We needed to run some cables to a locale a couple of hundred metres away from a
cabinet.
The ceiling was the logical route, but the cables had not been certified as
'plenum safe/capable', and even
Tom,
I agree with everything you say, but I still think that limiting a
datacenter's power capacity is anti business. When limits are set by
government, or in this case the power company, business tends to look at
relocating their business to somewhere where those limits don't exist, or
the
I agree with everything you say, but I still think that limiting a
datacenter's power capacity is anti business.
When limits are set by government, or in this case the power company, business
tends to look at relocating their business to somewhere where those limits
don't exist, or the overall
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Subject: Re: Power Capacity Planning (was Slightly off topic power limits)
What happens if the government/power company doesn't 'cap' power
consumption, the data centre uses 'too much
If it comes down to not being able to use a small amount more of power, that
shows poor planning.
Yes, but you're talking ideal world.
Either because the power company didn't build more capacity, or because the
groups regulating new power plants make it impossible. I don't think
business
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 00:01:21 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote:
If it comes down to not being able to use a small amount more of power, that
shows poor planning.
Yes, but you're talking ideal world.
Either because the power company didn't build more capacity, or because the
groups regulating new
Getting back to the comment about the proliferation of ( usually wintel)
single application servers. In my experience, this occurred because
different business units liked having and controlling their own
server(s), and individually each little server was not very power hungry
anyway. Not like
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