Re: SMF reporting question

2009-02-28 Thread Terry Draper
for the others. Terry Draper zSeries Performance Consultant w...@btopenworld.com mobile:  +966 556730876 --- On Thu, 26/2/09, David Betten bet...@us.ibm.com wrote: From: David Betten bet...@us.ibm.com Subject: Re: SMF reporting question To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Thursday, 26 February, 2009, 7:17 PM

Re: SMF reporting question

2009-02-27 Thread Paul Gillis
On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 11:05 -0800, Gibney, Dave wrote: What's SAS on Winders cost? I thought it was pretty cheap, almost pocket change? Funnily enough, within the last week I had some-one who had migrated SAS off the mainframe mention that the Windoze solution was (now) also considered

Re: SMF reporting question

2009-02-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Our annual SAS and MXG renewal in Australia is under AU$10,000. Not sure what the up front fee was. MXG renewal is the same as up-front. $1500 US, the last time I acquired it. SAS renewal was 15% of the original, at the same time. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: SMF reporting question

2009-02-26 Thread Staller, Allan
IIRC, there are some ASM and/or cobol packages on the CBT tape. snip I realize that most people likely use SAS for SMF reporting. We did this in the past. Management has declared that SAS on the z is simply too expensive. They also declared that installing the Windows version on our main user's

Re: SMF reporting question

2009-02-26 Thread Tony B.
DF/SORT and/or ICETOOL are my first 2 choices. Examples abound. Take a look at Frank Y.'s examples in the IBM web site first. I wrote several DF/SORT based SMF jobs years ago before we purchased a product that does a much better job. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: SMF reporting question

2009-02-26 Thread Rick Fochtman
I've always used Optimized PL/1 for these sorts of requests. It took me a while but I created PL/1 Structures for the various SMF records as needed; that was the hard part. After that, I used PL/1 to create quite a number of reports in a fairly short time: program usage statistics, ABEND

Re: SMF reporting question

2009-02-26 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:07:43 -0600, John McKown joa...@swbell.net wrote: I realize that most people likely use SAS for SMF reporting. We did this in the past. Management has declared that SAS on the z is simply too expensive. They also declared that installing the Windows version on our main

Re: SMF reporting question

2009-02-26 Thread John McKown
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:32:49 -0600, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: What does hard money mean. Zero? Correct. Hard money means a check made out to somebody. Soft money is possible, but that basically means that __we__ do something to get the report so our salary is paying for it.

Re: SMF reporting question

2009-02-26 Thread Gibney, Dave
, February 26, 2009 8:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SMF reporting question On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:32:49 -0600, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: What does hard money mean. Zero? Correct. Hard money means a check made out to somebody. Soft money is possible

Re: SMF reporting question

2009-02-26 Thread David Betten
I'm not that familiar with it but the RMF Spreadsheet Reporter might povide you with some z/OS performance reporting. I'm pretty sure it comes with RMF so it probably meets your requirement of being something you already have. Have a nice day, Dave Betten DFSORT Development, Performance Lead IBM

Re: SMF reporting question

2009-02-26 Thread Ted MacNEIL
What's SAS on Winders cost? I thought it was pretty cheap, almost pocket change? Compared to 'normal' software on Windows it's expensive, and there's an annual fee, approx 15%. But, it's been since 2004, that I've run SAS on a PC, so I could be out of date. Also, if a company wants to spend

Re: SMF reporting question

2009-02-26 Thread Shane
On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 11:05 -0800, Gibney, Dave wrote: What's SAS on Winders cost? I thought it was pretty cheap, almost pocket change? Funnily enough, within the last week I had some-one who had migrated SAS off the mainframe mention that the Windoze solution was (now) also considered too

Re: SMF reporting question

2009-02-26 Thread Andrew Rowley
You might like to try my product, which I recently released for beta testing. It won't be free, but the price shouldn't raise eyebrows for people used to buying PC software... ultimately the question will be how many soft dollars are you prepared to spend to save a hard dollar? You can