Re: When to start security product?

2007-04-17 Thread Mark Yuhas
Thanks for response. I will move the start of Top Secret to somewhere after the beginning of the IPL Procedure to satisfy the recommendation. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: When to start security product?

2007-04-13 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:25:46 -0500 Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :---snip- :If I were running any of the other 3 security products (RACF, ACF2, :DEADBOLT) .. I would try to run it the same. :--unsnip

Re: When to start security product?

2007-04-12 Thread Brian France
At 04:00 PM 4/11/2007, you wrote: We use Top Secret. A consultant made a recommendation late last year that Top Secret should be the first task started during the IPL procedure. The Security Administrator has requested this change. Currently, we start Top Secret after JES2 completes its start

Re: When to start security product?

2007-04-12 Thread Wayne Driscoll
JME Software LLC NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: When to start security product

Re: When to start security product?

2007-04-12 Thread Jakubek, Jan
Typically a security product should to be started before any AS that needs Unix attributes. The Unix attributes are provided by RACF/ACF2/TSS. I do not know TSS, but ACF2 starts via SYS1.PARMLIB(CAISEC00). I'd guess TSS can be brought up the same way. Hth...

Re: When to start security product?

2007-04-12 Thread Pinnacle
- Original Message - From: Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:37 PM Subject: Re: When to start security product? ---snip-- We use Top Secret. A consultant made a recommendation

Re: When to start security product?

2007-04-12 Thread Brian France
At 09:57 AM 4/12/2007, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:37 PM Subject: Re: When to start security product? ---snip-- We use Top Secret

Re: When to start security product?

2007-04-12 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip- If I were running any of the other 3 security products (RACF, ACF2, DEADBOLT) .. I would try to run it the same. --unsnip IIRC, RACF doesn't need to be brought up as such. Just run the task that

Re: When to start security product?

2007-04-11 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Yuhas Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: When to start security product? We use Top Secret. A consultant made a recommendation late last year that Top

Re: When to start security product?

2007-04-11 Thread Craddock, Chris
We use Top Secret. A consultant made a recommendation late last year that Top Secret should be the first task started during the IPL procedure. The Security Administrator has requested this change. Currently, we start Top Secret after JES2 completes its start procedure. I really don't see

Re: When to start security product?

2007-04-11 Thread Matthew Stitt
I normally start CAS9 first through the subsystem name table member. Then have CAS9 start TSS, then have TSS start everything else, including JES2. On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:28:46 -0400, Craddock, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We use Top Secret. A consultant made a recommendation late last year

Re: When to start security product?

2007-04-11 Thread Anthony Saul Babonas
] On Behalf Of Thompson, Steve Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: When to start security product? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Yuhas Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN

Re: When to start security product?

2007-04-11 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip-- We use Top Secret. A consultant made a recommendation late last year that Top Secret should be the first task started during the IPL procedure. The Security Administrator has requested this change. Currently, we start Top Secret after JES2

Re: When to start security product?

2007-04-11 Thread Jousma, David
Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 616.653.8429 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: When to start security product? Can anyone explain why starting

Re: When to start security product?

2007-04-11 Thread Schramm, Rob
We are starting CAS9,SUB=MSTR which start TSS,SUB=MSTR .. TSS starts JES2/NETVIEW/SA390.. then SA/390 takes over everything else being started. Works pretty well. For CPF logs.. just issue the F TSS,CPF(REFRESH) after JES2 is fully up. We made the move primarily for System Automation... plus