The zIIPs don't particularly affect JDBC or ODBC access to DB2 stored
procedures with DB2 V8 for z/OS, as far as I know. DB2 9 for z/OS does
enjoy zIIP benefits in such a scenario, however. But if the DB2 stored
procedures are written in Java (1.4.1 or higher at a sufficient build
level), they
Edward Jaffe wrote:
Ted MacNEIL wrote:
So, IBM went with CP for the engines an Central Electronic Complex
(CEC) for the box.
These days, they're called CPCs.
In fact there is (was) difference between CPC and CEC. In the very old
times of 9672 R1 it was possible to have more than one CPC
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Ed,
Thanks for including this. These were the numbers from the August 2007
SHARE. Below I've included the results from Feb 2008, and you can see that
it really hasn't changed much.
I'm in the middle of writing now, so I've not been watching IBM-Main. If
you ever need anything, just send me a
I may be wrong, but I believe the number of older hardware you quote below is
much higher than 1%. I suspect that shops with hardware that old don't send
people to Share very often.
Eric Bielefeld
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Ed,
Thanks for
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:I may be wrong, but I believe the number of older hardware you quote below is
:much higher than 1%. I suspect that shops with hardware that old don't send
:people to Share very often.
There is the missing Don't
On Thu, 2008-04-24 at 14:27 -0500, Steven Liston wrote:
Looking for feedback from anybody who is making use of [specialty
engines] with details of workload that's running there, success or
otherwise and any gotchas.
Can't help you with your specific question, but you may be interested in
I read somewhere yesterday (latest z/Journal?) that IBM has a speciality
engine loaner program that lets you eval the engine for up to 90 days. If
that's appealing to you, check with your IBM rep for the terms.
-Rob
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On Thu, 2008-04-24 at 14:27 -0500, Steven Liston wrote:
Looking for feedback from anybody who is making use
David Andrews wrote:
Can't help you with your specific question, but you may be interested in
anecdotal evidence of their popularity. At Cheryl's Hot Flashes
session back in February she asked for a show of hands -- how many
people are using those offload engines? Over a third of hands shot up
!
Cheryl Watson
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She asked about zAAPs and zIIPs separately. Each had significant
On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 10:38 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:
She asked about zAAPs and zIIPs separately.
My notes say that she asked about zAAPs and zIIPs in one question, then
about IFLs in another. About half of the audience raised their hands in
response to the latter question.
(Yeah, I take
Yeah, yeah, replying to my own post.
On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 14:53 -0400, David Andrews wrote:
My notes say that she asked about zAAPs and zIIPs in one question
Which conflicts with Cheryl's own notes, which has those broken apart.
So I yield to you again, Mr. Jaffe. (I do that a lot, it seems.)
David Andrews wrote:
On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 10:38 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:
She asked about zAAPs and zIIPs separately.
My notes say that she asked about zAAPs and zIIPs in one question, then
about IFLs in another. About half of the audience raised their hands in
response to the
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I read somewhere yesterday (latest z/Journal?) that IBM has a speciality
engine loaner program that lets you eval the engine for up
We had a company in Milwaukee that got to use 7 IFL engines for free for about
a year for a test project running a couple hundred Linux servers. If you are
big enough, and are likely to buy the engines, IBM can be very flexible. In
this case, the company didn't buy the IFL engines.
Eric
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We had a company in Milwaukee that got to use 7 IFL engines for free for
about a year for a test project running a couple hundred Linux servers.
If you
removes a lot of processing from our CP processors.
pedantry
All processors are CP's.
It stands for Central Processor.
They used to be called CPU's, but the US Federal Government came up with a
requirement that anything called a 'unit' could be purchased separately.
(Speaking of pedantry...)
So,
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Ted MacNEIL wrote:
So, IBM went with CP for the engines an Central Electronic Complex (CEC) for
the box.
These days, they're called CPCs.
CP's that are not specialty engines are GP's.
General Processors.
Or GCPs.
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Ted,
That's not what IBM thinks:
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/advantages/ziip/gettingstarted/order.html
Tomato, tomahto.
I have seen documentation that calls them CP's, GP's and specialty engines,
along with their specialty names (ICFs, IFLs, zIIPs, zAAPs, and ZOWIEs).
We're getting into
We have ambitions of getting into zIIP because of a dfSMS change that
occurred very recently without much fanfare. SDM (System Data Mover), the
heart of XRC (aka Global Mirroring for z [or whatthehellever]) will now
utilize a zIIP engine. I realize that XRC is not everyone's cup of SCIDS
nectar,
If you are using DB2 v8 or up with a distributed workload, it works
great and you do not have to do anything to make it work.
Larry Gray
Large Systems Engineering
Lowe's Companies
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