Re: Region Size - Step or Jobcard

2010-08-05 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#16 Region Size - Step or Jobcard i.e. MVS was still mostly the same address space ... or every MVS virtual address space was mostly the same (some installations, 13mbytes threatening to become 14mbytes, of every 16mbyte virtual address space

Region Size - Step or Jobcard

2010-08-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
Someone asked me the question, and since we are having a good discussion, I thought I would throw this out to the collective wisdom here. If there is a job with 200+ steps. Is it better to have region coded at the JOBCARD level or the STEP Level? I have heard various thoughts on this over the

Re: Region Size - Step or Jobcard

2010-08-04 Thread Staller, Allan
In days of yore, long, long ago, and far, far, away, it made sense to code at the step level. OS/MVT used a contiguous storage algorithm and reserved that storage for the life of a job step.. If STEPB required more storage that STEPA, the possibility existed for significant execution delays

Re: Region Size - Step or Jobcard

2010-08-04 Thread Hal Merritt
@bama.ua.edu Subject: Region Size - Step or Jobcard Someone asked me the question, and since we are having a good discussion, I thought I would throw this out to the collective wisdom here. If there is a job with 200+ steps. Is it better to have region coded at the JOBCARD level or the STEP Level

Re: Region Size - Step or Jobcard

2010-08-04 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2010-08-04 20:07, Lizette Koehler pisze: Someone asked me the question, and since we are having a good discussion, I thought I would throw this out to the collective wisdom here. If there is a job with 200+ steps. Is it better to have region coded at the JOBCARD level or the STEP

Re: Region Size - Step or Jobcard

2010-08-04 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 13:24:02 -0500, Staller, Allan wrote: In days of yore, long, long ago, and far, far, away, it made sense to code at the step level. OS/MVT used a contiguous storage algorithm More precisely, MVT had a single address space and reserved that storage for the life of a job

Re: Region Size - Step or Jobcard

2010-08-04 Thread Scott Barry
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 14:07:20 -0400, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: Someone asked me the question, and since we are having a good discussion, I thought I would throw this out to the collective wisdom here. If there is a job with 200+ steps. Is it better to have region coded at the

Re: Region Size - Step or Jobcard

2010-08-04 Thread Burrell, C. Todd (CDC/OCOO/ITSO) (CTR)
Programmer ITSO (404) 723-2017 (Cell) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 2:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Region Size - Step or Jobcard Someone asked me the question

Re: Region Size - Step or Jobcard

2010-08-04 Thread Mike Schwab
If you have a problem with the region size, add a REGION parameter to the jobcard that is equal to or larger than any step, and overrides all the steps. No need to remove the REGION from the steps or procs, and any changes to the values could result in typo abends. On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:43

Re: Region Size - Step or Jobcard

2010-08-04 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com (Tom Marchant) writes: More precisely, MVT had a single address space aka VS2/SVS was minimally modified MVT in a single (16mbyte) virtual address space; biggest change was borrowing ccwtrans from cp67 for EXCP ... to take the application-passed channel program and make

Re: Region Size - Step or Jobcard

2010-08-04 Thread Mark Zelden
For new JCL I always recommend just putting an ample region size on the job card and be done with it.  But I would certainly not change running JCL for no reason. I always say if it ain't broke don't break it. I say implement an IEFUSI exit that isn't from the dark ages and not worry about (or

Re: Region Size - Step or Jobcard

2010-08-04 Thread Barbara Nitz
If there is a job with 200+ steps. Is it better to have region coded at the JOBCARD level or the STEP Level? Actually, while I still recommend using region at the job card level, in your particular case it will narrow the step that caused the fragmentation. Assuming you use checkregionloss