Thanks Barry for clearing this up. I will remove this FILTLIST as well as
review the others which test for TEST.**.
Thanks to all for your helpful comments and suggestions.
Schwarz, Barry A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Notice the first entry. Now look at the VOLSER you specified in the
.
Bob
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Thanks Barry for clearing this up. I will remove this FILTLIST as well
as review
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Willie,
I would suggest very strongly
Robert,
Thanks for the warning and your suggestion. I will heed your advice. Also,
I will place write messages so as to make debugging easier.
Thanks again to all of you for going the extra mile to help me out.
Richards, Robert B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Willie,
I would suggest
In the case of a smaller shop with simple needs, DFP segments might be the
way to go. One of the companies we brought in merged into our
environment used them. But I've just finished ripping all that code out
as for our needs, it proved to be too simple and didn't provide us with
the
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In the case of a smaller shop with simple needs, DFP segments might be
the
way to go. One of the companies we brought in merged into our
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In the case of a smaller shop with simple needs, DFP segments might be
the way to go. One of the companies we brought in merged into our
environment used them. But I've just finished ripping all that code out
as for our needs, it proved to be too simple
with the exits.
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From: willie bunter [mailto:snip]
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 7:33 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
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Robert,
Thanks for the warning and your suggestion. I will heed your advice.
Also, I will place write messages so as to make debugging
Agreed - but even for defaults, I've always wanted more granularity than
I get with RACF (unless I'm willing to do a whole lot of profiles) and if
I'm going to do the heavy lifting in SMS anyway, I never saw any point in
using the DFP segment. I can provide the same defaults plus more from
On Thu, 1 May 2008 10:19:46 -0500, Darth Keller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
One thing to keep in mind is that by giving control over to the DFP
segment, you're generally depending on a RACF adminstrator to provide your
values.
Not necessarily, though. The RACF administrator can delegate all the
An interesting idea and I like the simplicity part of it - but I've yet to
meet a RACF admin willing to give me that kind of access to his/her
database. But then to be fair, I won't let them muck around in my pond
either. ;o)
ddk
Not
An interesting idea and I like the simplicity part of it - but I've yet to
meet a RACF admin willing to give me that kind of access to his/her database.
The database doesn't belong to the RACF admin.
It belongs to the corporation.
If you can justify it, you should be able to access it.
But then
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On Thu, 1 May 2008 10:19:46
, 2008 11:28 AM
To: Schwarz, Barry A
Subject: Re: SMS PUZZLE
Barry,
I didn't realise that the alloction for TEST.** is overriden with the
TEST.MISNT. I noticed that several of the dsns which are being written
out to non-SMS disks start with the HLQ TEST.CNSA, TEST.XD008A5 etc.
Just for my
Barry,
To confirm, the ACS that I posted is the current version. I am still unable
to figure out which WHEN condition is kicking in. When I coded the unit
volser, the dsn was allocated on the non-SMS pack. When I coded the only
unit=3390, SMS directed the dsn to a SMS managed dasd.
] On
Behalf Of willie bunter
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:15 PM
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Barry,
To confirm, the ACS that I posted is the current version. I am still
unable to figure out which WHEN condition is kicking in. When I coded
the unit volser, the dsn
Bob,
I really try to avoid the DO-SET-EXIT-END loops you speak of, I find them
cumbersome and hard to read. I find that one large SELECT-WHEN-OTHERWISE-END
provides a better structure for this, and since it avoids the numerous EXITs,
it allow for such things as WRITE statements after the end
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Scott Rowe
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:33 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SMS PUZZLE
Bob,
I really try to avoid the DO-SET-EXIT-END loops you speak of, I find them
cumbersome and hard to read. I find that one large SELECT-WHEN-OTHERWISE-END
provides a better structure
I once worked in a shop where all the SMS routines were written with
nested IF-THEN-ELSE Logic - the person who'd worked there before I came on
board didn't believe in using SELECT-WHEN's. Talk about a nightmare to
maintain! I finally re-wrote it all using SELECT-WHEN's which I
personally
in favor of SELECT WHEN in most cases.
Bob
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Bob,
I really try to avoid the DO-SET-EXIT-END loops you
part of
evaluating this caused you confusion?
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From: willie bunter [mailto:snip]
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 9:15 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SMS PUZZLE
Barry,
To confirm, the ACS that I posted is the current version. I am still
unable to figure
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:25:31 -0700, willie bunter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hallo Everybody,
I am trying to track down why some dsns with the HLQ of TEST.** are
being directed to a non-SMS volume. I noticed that a majority of the dsns are
being allocated correctly by SMS. I ran a check on
This is a personal choice, but I code each of my segments as follows:
when
do
set
write
exit
end
The 'write' stmt starts with some msg id that uniquely identifies the exit
point, like 'SCDT0001' and then whatever values I think might be helpful
at that point - DSN, DSNTYPE,
Gilbert,
The quotes were placed there by someone in 1989. I tried the esoteric for
DISK but the it is flushed by the system.
Gilbert Cardenas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:25:31 -0700, willie bunter
wrote:
Hey Willie, just a couple of thoughts :
Is it possible
Of willie bunter
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 2:26 PM
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Subject: SMS PUZZLE
Hallo Everybody,
I am trying to track down why some dsns with the HLQ of TEST.** are
being directed to a non-SMS volume. I noticed that a majority of the
dsns are being allocated correctly by SMS. I ran
Neil,
Ther VALUNIT GDVX are in the same select statement. The VALUNIT is placed
before the GDVX. There is FILTLIST VOL_NONSMS. However the FILTLIST does not
contain any TEST.** HLQs. :
WHEN (ANYVOL = VOL_NONSMS OR HLQ = HLQ_NONSMS)
SET STORCLAS = ''
WHEN (ANYVOL = VOL_NONSMS OR HLQ = HLQ_NONSMS) SET
STORCLAS = ''
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Subject: Re: SMS PUZZLE
Robert,
Thanks for your offer to take a look at the code. I have enclosed it.
I hope you can find the bug.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Richards, Robert B.
Willie,
No, the unit is not the problem, as it is valid
, April 28, 2008 2:26 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: SMS PUZZLE
Hallo Everybody,
I am trying to track down why some dsns with the HLQ of TEST.** are
being directed to a non-SMS volume. I noticed that a majority of the
dsns are being allocated correctly by SMS. I ran a check on the ACS
routines
Hallo Everybody,
I am trying to track down why some dsns with the HLQ of TEST.** are being
directed to a non-SMS volume. I noticed that a majority of the dsns are being
allocated correctly by SMS. I ran a check on the ACS routines and I found that
the SC ACS has a storage class set for
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Hallo Everybody,
I am trying to track down why some dsns with the HLQ of TEST.** are
being directed
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:15:38 -0400, Richards, Robert B. wrote:
... Your
logic must honor (ie, allow) specific dataset placement when a volser is
coded. It may be part of a compound test.
Not necessarily.
There are certainly times when ACS routines need to allow a data set to be
placed on a
And you can also have a list of IDs that can do anything in SMS that can thwart
the intent of the ACS code.
Lizette
... Your
logic must honor (ie, allow) specific dataset placement when a volser is
coded. It may be part of a compound test.
Not necessarily.
There are certainly times when
List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 3:34 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SMS PUZZLE
And you can also have a list of IDs that can do anything in SMS that can
thwart the intent of the ACS code.
Lizette
... Your
logic must honor (ie
At 2008-04-28 14:25, concerning SMS PUZZLE, Willie Bunter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (to IBM-Main):
[snip] track down why some dsns with the HLQ of TEST.** are being
directed to a non-SMS volume. [snip]
[snip] storage class for unit types. [snip] However, when I used the
unit=3390
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