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Datum: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:27:22 -0300
Von: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Betreff: Re: Transfer reports from lpar to lpar
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/07/2008
at 12:59 PM, Gilbert Cardenas [EMAIL
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/07/2008
at 03:17 PM, Gilbert Cardenas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
BTW, I have not been part of this list long so is it prohibited to post
information regarding a job opening?
Not if you run it by Big D (mailto:Darren Evans-Young
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Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 7:27 PM
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/07/2008
at 12:59 PM, Gilbert Cardenas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
Hello all, I am looking for ideas on ways to transfer
On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:02:28 -0400, Farley, Peter x23353
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Asked and answered. The OP's local sysprogs don't like NJE for some
reason, have not implemented it, and (according to the OP) will not do
so. Politics was suggested as the underlying reason.
The reason I think
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Of Gilbert Cardenas
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 13:38
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On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:02
On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:40:26 -0700, Ulrich Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Gil,
Now that you explained why you would like to use NJE, have you thought
about
alternatives?
For example:
Do you have TCP/IP-attached laser printers in the office, HP laser printers
or high-speed copiers with
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/07/2008
at 12:59 PM, Gilbert Cardenas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Hello all, I am looking for ideas on ways to transfer reports/sysouts
from one JES2 spool on one lpar to another lpar.
Why not NJE?
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Pat Mihalec wrote:
I haven't been following this but has anyone suggested setting up a
CTC
between the LPAR's. The connection is setup over Escon channels.
Or, better yet, TCP/IP over HiperSockets should be *screaming* fast --
assuming the LPARs are on the same CPC.
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I haven't been following this but has anyone suggested setting up a CTC
between the LPAR's. The connection is setup over Escon channels.
---unsnip
That will make a very reasonable physical connection; the next step is
Rick Fochtman wrote:
That will make a very reasonable physical connection; the next step is
to configure software to actually use it. :-)
I vote for a NJE connection, with routing JECL where appropriate. It's
a LOT less prone to error than trying to do spool OFFLOAD and LOAD.
The OP
In a message dated 3/8/2008 11:03:41 A.M. Central Standard Time, r
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vote for a NJE connection, with routing JECL where appropriate. It's a
LOT less prone to error than trying to do spool OFFLOAD and LOAD.
Shared spool may be out for valid reasons.
Guess if all
On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 09:21:53 -0800, Edward Jaffe
The OP indicates that he already has TCP/IP connectivity between all
LPARs and FTP servers running on each. Therefore, the JES FTP interface
should be available without any additional configuration. (Though I
would highly recommend specifying
Gilbert Cardenas wrote:
Hello all, I am looking for ideas on ways to transfer reports/sysouts from one
JES2 spool on one lpar to another lpar.
The current method I am using is to use a JES offload dataset to offload the
report(s) and then reload them on the other lpar. This works okay but
On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 12:45:28 EST, Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Guess if all you got is PFCSKs DEST='IP:ipaddr' might suffice w/o NJE
quote JCL Reference
DEST=destination
The destination subparameter for JES2 is one of the following:
LOCAL|ANYLOCAL
'IP:ipaddr'
name
| Nn
|
Gilbert Cardenas wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 12:45:28 EST, Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Guess if all you got is PFCSKs DEST='IP:ipaddr' might suffice w/o NJE
quote JCL Reference
DEST=destination
The destination subparameter for JES2 is one of the following:
LOCAL|ANYLOCAL
'IP:ipaddr'
Setting up NJE really isn't that difficult. I can send you a short set of
directions for how to set it up if you want. If your systems are both on
the same physical processor (2 LPARs), and if it's a z-series box with an
OSA/e or similar, it's even easier.
I would bet that your systems people
Hello all, I am looking for ideas on ways to transfer reports/sysouts from one
JES2 spool on one lpar to another lpar.
The current method I am using is to use a JES offload dataset to offload the
report(s) and then reload them on the other lpar. This works okay but I'm
looking for an
Set up an NJE link between the 2 LPARs?
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Hello all, I am
Gilbert,
Set up an NJE connection, then you can use /*ROUTE PRINT JCL.
Jimmy
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Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 12:59 PM
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Subject: Transfer reports from lpar to lpar
Hello all, I am looking for ideas on ways to transfer
Hi Gil,
I would look at using a NJE connection between the systems. You can setup
a DESTination and do it that way or issue $Route commands to get the
output over. AFAIK you can get NJE tunneled across TCP/IP these days
depending on the z/OS version.
Of course there may be some other ideas
Shared Spool?
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: Transfer reports from lpar to lpar
Hi Gil,
I would look at using a NJE connection between the systems. You can setup a
DESTination and do it that way or issue $Route commands to get the output over.
AFAIK you can get NJE tunneled across TCP/IP these days depending on the z/OS
version.
Of course
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Sorry, forgot to mention that I have been trying to get the system progs to
setup NJE but for some reason, they are reluctant to do so and shared spool
is definitely out of the question.
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Sorry, forgot to mention that I have been trying to get the system progs to
setup NJE but for some reason, they are reluctant to do so
Why?
and shared spool is definitely out of the question.
And, why?
If you have a true business need, sysprogs should not be able to stand in the
way!
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On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:33:38 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sorry, forgot to mention that I have been trying to get the system progs to
setup NJE but for some reason, they are reluctant to do so
Why?
and shared spool is definitely out of the question.
And, why?
If you have a true
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Sorry, forgot to mention that I have been trying to get the system
progs to setup NJE but for some reason, they are reluctant to do so
Why?
and shared spool is definitely out of the question.
And,
Everytime I bring it up, they hem haw around. Perhaps it is because they do
not know how to set it up???
I haven't been involved in setting up NJE or shared SPOOL since the early
1980's.
I would have thought everybody that needed it would be done by now.
If it doesn't require too much
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Everytime I bring it up, they hem haw around. Perhaps
On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:00:07 -0600, McKown, John
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It definitely would take administrator intervention. There are JES2
changes and maybe even VTAM changes.
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We use Shared Spool and NJE. However, because of volume, particularly
during peak periods, when the transfer can be hundreds or thousands of
millions of lines per shift, where shared DASD is available, we run jobs
on one plex to create reports in files and then trigger jobs on another
system
If you have all LPARs on the network and have FTP servers on each, would it be
possible to use the FTP JES interface to GET/PUT the JES content over that
interface?
Jon Nolting
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Enterprise Technology Architect
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On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:33:38 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry, forgot to mention that I have been trying to get the system progs
to setup NJE but for some reason, they are reluctant to do so
Why?
Could be a good reason... but if both systems are in the same shop,
probably not a
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On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:33:38 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry, forgot
Disagree there. We have many disparate systems in this shop (and others that
I've been at) that there is no way... even with a true business need
that I would consider trying to move into a shared spool environment.
Technical reasons can out weigh business needs. Security is another
issue.
Pat Mihalec wrote:
I haven't been following this but has anyone suggested setting up a CTC
between the LPAR's. The connection is setup over Escon channels.
Or, better yet, TCP/IP over HiperSockets should be *screaming* fast --
assuming the LPARs are on the same CPC.
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On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 13:37:30 -0800, Jon Nolting
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If you have all LPARs on the network and have FTP servers on each, would it
be possible to use the FTP JES interface to GET/PUT the JES content over
that interface?
Jon Nolting
EPG Compete - CATM
Enterprise Technology
NJE is by far the best solution, but since they are reluctant to implement
it there isn't much you can do about it. There is a product that the
company I work for sells, called SyzSpool which actively manages the JES
spool and allows you to manage the output by sending it files that are able
to
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