Re: Z/OS 31bit or 64bit

2010-07-15 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
BTW: Up-to-date z/OS 1.11 is still partially 31-bit and 24-bit. As long as the backward compatibility promise is not broken there will be AMODE24 and AMODE31 interfaces in z/OS. -- Peter Hunkeler Credit Suisse -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Z/OS 31bit or 64bit

2010-07-15 Thread R.S.
Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) pisze: BTW: Up-to-date z/OS 1.11 is still partially 31-bit and 24-bit. As long as the backward compatibility promise is not broken there will be AMODE24 and AMODE31 interfaces in z/OS. That's good. However I wrote about the bad side. Many system components are still

Re: Z/OS 31bit or 64bit

2010-07-15 Thread Mike Wood
Radoslaw, Yes the limitation was a TSO one. But since z/OS R8 (I think) there is a PROFILE option to place the index to the variables above 16MB. PROF VARSTOR(HIGH) But each user has to turn that option on. and actually for the ISPF environment for rmm this is not a great help because it

Re: Z/OS 31bit or 64bit

2010-07-15 Thread Timothy Sipples
I would also add that if you run into a constraint that's affecting you, get a requirement in to IBM (via SHARE, via your friendly IBM representative, or any other official channel). If 24-bit or 31-bit code isn't causing a real-world constraint, my view is that the code should not be changed, for

Z/OS 31bit or 64bit

2010-07-13 Thread Tim Brown
I am very certain that my Z/OS is running in 64 bit mode but how can I confirm Tim Brown Systems Specialist - Project Leader Central Hudson Gas Electric 284 South Ave Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Email: tbr...@cenhud.com mailto:tbr...@cenhud.com mailto:tbr...@cenhud.com Phone: 845-486-5643 Fax:

Re: Z/OS 31bit or 64bit

2010-07-13 Thread Mark Jacobs
On 07/13/10 10:12, Tim Brown wrote: I am very certain that my Z/OS is running in 64 bit mode but how can I confirm Tim Brown Systems Specialist - Project Leader Central Hudson Gas Electric 284 South Ave Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Email: tbr...@cenhud.com

Re: Z/OS 31bit or 64bit

2010-07-13 Thread Scott Rowe
If you are at z/OS 1.7 or higher you are quite certainly running in 64-bit mode, that is the only mode supported by these OS levels. Tim Brown tbr...@cenhud.com 7/13/2010 10:12 AM I am very certain that my Z/OS is running in 64 bit mode but how can I confirm Tim Brown Systems Specialist -

Re: Z/OS 31bit or 64bit

2010-07-13 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 10:12:07 -0400 Tim Brown tbr...@cenhud.com wrote: :I am very certain that my Z/OS is running in 64 bit mode :but how can I confirm Dump out PSA. Now if you are asking if a specific program is running in 31 or 64, use the TAM instruction. -- Binyamin Dissen

Re: Z/OS 31bit or 64bit

2010-07-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I am very certain that my Z/OS is running in 64 bit mode but how can I confirm If it's 1.7, or higher, the answer is: it is. z/OS 1.7+ only runs in 64-bit. - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For

Re: Z/OS 31bit or 64bit

2010-07-13 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 10:17:30 -0400, Scott Rowe wrote: If you are at z/OS 1.7 or higher you are quite certainly running in 64-bit mode, z/OS 1.6 requires z/Architecture. z/OS 1.5 can only run in z/Architecture mode on a z/Architecture capable processor. It can run in ESA mode only on G5 or

Re: Z/OS 31bit or 64bit

2010-07-13 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I always thought that z/OS 1.6 and higher only ran 64 bit. 1.5 and below could run either. That said, I believe that the hardware you are running on determines whether 1.5 and below runs in 31 or 64 bit. I know we had z/OS 1.2 when I worked at PH, and at that time I learned what all of the

Re: Z/OS 31bit or 64bit

2010-07-13 Thread Scott Rowe
Yes, but I thought I remembered him saying he was running 1.7 the other day. I probably should have said 1.6 or higher. 7/13/2010 2:57 PM On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 10:17:30 -0400, Scott Rowe wrote: If you are at z/OS 1.7 or higher you are quite certainly running in 64-bit mode, z/OS 1.6 requires

Re: Z/OS 31bit or 64bit

2010-07-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Yes, but I thought I remembered him saying he was running 1.7 the other day. I probably should have said 1.6 or higher. 1.6 supported bi-modal, IIRC. But, we jumped from 1.4 to 1.7, so I don't know. And, we were in 64 since 2.10. - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota!

Re: Z/OS 31bit or 64bit

2010-07-13 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2010-07-13 21:36, Ted MacNEIL pisze: Yes, but I thought I remembered him saying he was running 1.7 the other day. I probably should have said 1.6 or higher. 1.6 supported bi-modal, IIRC. No. The last one was 1.5. But, we jumped from 1.4 to 1.7, so I don't know. And, we were in

Re: Z/OS 31bit or 64bit

2010-07-13 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 19:36:56 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: 1.6 supported bi-modal, IIRC. Bi-modal? You mean like MVS/XA? Or do you mean that you could run it in ESA mode? From the 1.6 announcement: z/OS V1.6 must execute in a z/Architecture (64-bit) mode. -- Tom Marchant

Re: Z/OS 31bit or 64bit

2010-07-13 Thread Bob Rutledge
Tom Marchant wrote: On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 19:36:56 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: 1.6 supported bi-modal, IIRC. Bi-modal? You mean like MVS/XA? Or do you mean that you could run it in ESA mode? There was the z/OS V1R2/3/4 Bimodal Migration Accommodation described in:

Re: Z/OS 31bit or 64bit

2010-07-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
FSVO 64-bit. You could run OS/390 2.10 *and some earlier releases* on 64-bit machines. You're getting pedantic. 2.10 could run in 64 bit mode. Not much different than 1.1. But, it allowed us to test/run ISV software. It definitely ran in 64, because our first test system moved that way, and

Re: Z/OS 31bit or 64bit

2010-07-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Bi-modal? You mean like MVS/XA? Or do you mean that you could run it in ESA mode? I may have forgotten the terminology, but up to 1.6, you could run 31, or 64. Of course, I'm not as pedantic as others. I never used it. We switched to 64 at OS/390 2.10 and never looked back. - I'm a

Re: Z/OS 31bit or 64bit

2010-07-13 Thread Scott Rowe
No, bi-modal ended with 1.5. 1.6 could only run 64-bit. Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca 7/13/2010 4:57 PM Bi-modal? You mean like MVS/XA? Or do you mean that you could run it in ESA mode? I may have forgotten the terminology, but up to 1.6, you could run 31, or 64. Of course, I'm not as

Re: Z/OS 31bit or 64bit

2010-07-13 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com (Tom Marchant) writes: Bi-modal? You mean like MVS/XA? Or do you mean that you could run it in ESA mode? From the 1.6 announcement: z/OS V1.6 must execute in a z/Architecture (64-bit) mode. above/below line was originally introduced with 16mbyte real storage for