Re: z/OS SYSLOG to UNIX syslog daemon?

2011-05-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <543340.6949...@web161404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, on 05/27/2011 at 01:54 PM, Ed Gould said: >My loose memory of it was the length of one cartridge was around 100 >feet (it could have been more). >My memory also indicates that the 2321 and the 3850 were at least 10+ >years apart and the magnet

Re: z/OS SYSLOG to UNIX syslog daemon?

2011-05-27 Thread Ed Gould
24:18 PM Subject: Re: z/OS SYSLOG to UNIX syslog daemon? Ed Gould wrote: > > From: Rick Fochtman > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Sent: Thu, May 26, 2011 1:53:50 PM > Subj

Re: z/OS SYSLOG to UNIX syslog daemon?

2011-05-27 Thread Rick Fochtman
Ed Gould wrote: From: Rick Fochtman To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thu, May 26, 2011 1:53:50 PM Subject: Re: z/OS SYSLOG to UNIX syslog daemon

Re: z/OS SYSLOG to UNIX syslog daemon?

2011-05-26 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
rfocht...@ync.net (Rick Fochtman) writes: > Rumor had it at one time: the MSS cartridges contained all the > left-over tape from the 2321 strips. Seems that the tape was > over-stocked 'cuz the 2321 never took off like someone hoped it would. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#36 2321 ca

Re: z/OS SYSLOG to UNIX syslog daemon?

2011-05-26 Thread Ed Gould
From: Rick Fochtman To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thu, May 26, 2011 1:53:50 PM Subject: Re: z/OS SYSLOG to UNIX syslog daemon? --- Ahhh! The memorable Mass Storage System. Pluck, shuck, and play. > >

Re: z/OS SYSLOG to UNIX syslog daemon?

2011-05-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <4dde8a2c.3090...@trainersfriend.com>, on 05/26/2011 at 11:13 AM, Steve Comstock said: >I know the data cell, but I was not referring to it. I;d never encountered the term pluck in the context of extracting a cartridge, only in the context of extracting a strip. Was that usage common? --

Re: z/OS SYSLOG to UNIX syslog daemon?

2011-05-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <4ddea1be.1060...@ync.net>, on 05/26/2011 at 01:53 PM, Rick Fochtman said: >(Never mind that a random seek test from OLTs would "dance" it all >around the computer room floor!) :-) You could do that with some disk drives. BTDTGTTS -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT

Re: z/OS SYSLOG to UNIX syslog daemon?

2011-05-26 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- Ahhh! The memorable Mass Storage System. Pluck, shuck, and play. ITYM data cell, AKA noodle picker (2321). The MSS used cartridges. -- Rumor had it at one time: the MSS ca

Re: z/OS SYSLOG to UNIX syslog daemon?

2011-05-26 Thread Tony Harminc
On 23 May 2011 11:48, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: > st...@trainersfriend.com (Steve Comstock) writes: >> Ahhh! The memorable Mass Storage System. Pluck, shuck, and play. >> ISTR it was the 3950, but I could be wrong. I wrote training for >> it back when I was with IBM; even had it translated into G

Re: z/OS SYSLOG to UNIX syslog daemon?

2011-05-26 Thread Steve Comstock
binson SCE Infrastructure Technology Services Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com From: Steve Comstock To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 05/26/2011 10:14 AM Subject: Re: z/OS SYSLOG to UNIX syslog daemo

Re: z/OS SYSLOG to UNIX syslog daemon?

2011-05-26 Thread Skip Robinson
a.edu Date: 05/26/2011 10:14 AM Subject: Re: z/OS SYSLOG to UNIX syslog daemon? Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List On 5/26/2011 10:56 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > In<4dda71fd.5090...@trainersfriend.com>, on 05/23/2011 > at 08:41 AM, Steve Comstock sai

Re: z/OS SYSLOG to UNIX syslog daemon?

2011-05-26 Thread Steve Comstock
On 5/26/2011 10:56 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In<4dda71fd.5090...@trainersfriend.com>, on 05/23/2011 at 08:41 AM, Steve Comstock said: Ahhh! The memorable Mass Storage System. Pluck, shuck, and play. ITYM data cell, AKA noodle picker (2321). The MSS used cartridges. I know the

Re: z/OS SYSLOG to UNIX syslog daemon?

2011-05-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <4dda71fd.5090...@trainersfriend.com>, on 05/23/2011 at 08:41 AM, Steve Comstock said: >Ahhh! The memorable Mass Storage System. Pluck, shuck, and play. ITYM data cell, AKA noodle picker (2321). The MSS used cartridges. >ISTR it was the 3950, The MSS was the 3850, one component of which

Re: z/OS SYSLOG to UNIX syslog daemon?

2011-05-23 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
st...@trainersfriend.com (Steve Comstock) writes: > Ahhh! The memorable Mass Storage System. Pluck, shuck, and play. > ISTR it was the 3950, but I could be wrong. I wrote training for > it back when I was with IBM; even had it translated into German. > But I can't find the books now (this was 1974-

Re: z/OS SYSLOG to UNIX syslog daemon?

2011-05-23 Thread Steve Comstock
On 5/23/2011 8:37 AM, Mark Zelden wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 09:27:16 -0500, John McKown wrote: Implementing MVS under *NIX is easy - run Hercules/390 and MVS 3.8j under it. I do it for "fun" at home. Now, writing something so that a z/OS program could run on a *NIX platform would be something

Re: z/OS SYSLOG to UNIX syslog daemon?

2011-05-23 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 23 May 2011 09:27:16 -0500, John McKown wrote: >Implementing MVS under *NIX is easy - run Hercules/390 and MVS 3.8j >under it. I do it for "fun" at home. Now, writing something so that a >z/OS program could run on a *NIX platform would be something else. And >it is easier to simply recomp

Re: z/OS SYSLOG to UNIX syslog daemon?

2011-05-23 Thread John McKown
Implementing MVS under *NIX is easy - run Hercules/390 and MVS 3.8j under it. I do it for "fun" at home. Now, writing something so that a z/OS program could run on a *NIX platform would be something else. And it is easier to simply recompile your applications to run under *NIX or Windows by getting

Re: z/OS SYSLOG to UNIX syslog daemon?

2011-05-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 23 May 2011 08:42:25 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: > >Instead of running UNIX under z/OS, I think you need to start working on >running MVS under *nix. If you start writing it now, you may have it >done before you retire.I'm sure Paul G. will be more than happy to >help. :-) > I'll ced

Re: z/OS SYSLOG to UNIX syslog daemon?

2011-05-23 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 23 May 2011 01:56:33 -0500, John McKown wrote: >It's 01:30 local time. I can't sleep. So I'm likely insane. No comment. :-) > But I'm >wondering if anybody knows of an __easy__ way to send z/OS SYSLOG >messages to the UNIX syslog daemon? Sending the UNIX syslog daemon >output to the z/

Re: z/OS SYSLOG to UNIX syslog daemon?

2011-05-23 Thread Shane
On Mon, 23 May 2011 01:56:33 -0500 John McKown wrote: > It's 01:30 local time. I can't sleep. So I'm likely insane. s/[[:space:]]+likely// ;-) Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send e

z/OS SYSLOG to UNIX syslog daemon?

2011-05-22 Thread John McKown
It's 01:30 local time. I can't sleep. So I'm likely insane. But I'm wondering if anybody knows of an __easy__ way to send z/OS SYSLOG messages to the UNIX syslog daemon? Sending the UNIX syslog daemon output to the z/OS SYSLOG is simple - log to the /dev/console UNIX "file". What has occurred to m